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Ramos posted:Nah, just some minor molten metal on her shoulder and hand as you can tell by the steam coming off of it. Not a huge deal it seems considering her non-reaction. Considering that she is an oldwalker and practically immortal that doesn't seem like a big deal. That urza guy survived a beheading although he's a strange case cuz of the stones in his eyes.
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Zoness posted:Considering that she is an oldwalker and practically immortal that doesn't seem like a big deal. That urza guy survived a beheading although he's a strange case cuz of the stones in his eyes. Well yeah, Urza never had the spark, the spark came from the stones in his eyes, as they contained the spark that belonged to some other planeswalker who I can't remember the name of.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:21
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Lets Pickle posted:It seems like you guys are equating a permanents abstract "power" with its playability, which I would argue is not the same thing. Venser the Sojourner can give you an emblem that exiles a permanent whenever you cast a spell! That's more powerful than Venser the creature, although the creature is much more efficient and thus more playable. What's the POWER and toughness of SFM? What's the POWER and toughness of a planeswalker? Cripes
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Oct 29, 2014 21:24
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mango sentinel posted:Kayfabe explanation is when a planeswalker (player) summons another planeswalker (card) to their aid, the summoned planeswalker is only compelled to help as much as they feel like. Summoned creatures are at the full command of the player. Planeswalker Nahiri could still fetch that Batterskull for you, she just doesn't like you enough to do so. "I-I'm not helping you because I l-l-like you or anything. I just happened to be passing by and that other planeswalker was annoying me. No you can't have a Batterskull, baka!"
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Oct 29, 2014 21:26
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On an unrelated note I think this is the first time we've seen Ugin onscreen, so to speak, and I was kind of surprised by his character; despite being a dragon, he comes across as extremely blue, maybe even blue/black. Makes me hope that maybe for at least big name characters, we'll stop seeing their personality defined by their race.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:27
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Ramos posted:Nah, just some minor molten metal on her shoulder and hand as you can tell by the steam coming off of it. Not a huge deal it seems considering her non-reaction. How is it holding its shape, let alone an edge, if molten bits are still dripping off -- no, gently caress it, I'm not going to think this hard about the internal consistency of Magic art.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:27
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Entropic posted:How is it holding its shape, let alone an edge, if molten bits are still dripping off -- no, gently caress it, I'm not going to think this hard about the internal consistency of Magic art. The sword is indestructible! I mean, if your wizard power is making swords, and you can't make swords that hold an edge when they shouldn't, you're a pretty lovely swordwizard.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:29
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Angry Grimace posted:So Nahiri is basically a tsundere, then. No more than Teferi or Venser, I suppose. Entropic posted:How is it holding its shape, let alone an edge, if molten bits are still dripping off -- no, gently caress it, I'm not going to think this hard about the internal consistency of Magic art. ~*~Stoneforge magic~*~ But really, you can think of it having its central shape already forged and held together by magic while the molten stuff that isn't essential to the blade is slowly dripping off. Why not magic off the dripping stuff? It's stylish, that's why.
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Madmarker posted:Well yeah, Urza never had the spark, the spark came from the stones in his eyes, as they contained the spark that belonged to some other planeswalker who I can't remember the name of.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:30
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Count Bleck posted:I think my favorite part about that is that the red equivalent is 2 mana worse, isn't even a 7/7 for 7, and has a really mediocre trigger with lieutenant. Honestly the worst of Blue Does Literally Everything doesn't seem to make it into blocks anymore, which is where Maro has the most influence. It's supplemental products and the occasional core set card where some people seem to design blue like it was 1999.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:32
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Entropic posted:How is it holding its shape, let alone an edge, if molten bits are still dripping off -- no, gently caress it, I'm not going to think this hard about the internal consistency of Magic art.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:34
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Angry Grimace posted:"I-I'm not helping you because I l-l-like you or anything. I just happened to be passing by and that other planeswalker was annoying me. No you can't have a Batterskull, baka!" 
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Oct 29, 2014 21:35
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Elyv posted:On an unrelated note I think this is the first time we've seen Ugin onscreen, so to speak, and I was kind of surprised by his character; despite being a dragon, he comes across as extremely blue, maybe even blue/black. Makes me hope that maybe for at least big name characters, we'll stop seeing their personality defined by their race. It's a bit hard to get a read on Ugin, I thought, and that sort of makes sense with no colour identity. But I figure he didn't mention his home plane so Sorin wouldn't say "Tarkir? That shithole?" since it's probably about as suitable as Zendikar was for trapping the Eldrazi. I really like the dynamic of the three characters, hope it gets revisited as the Eldrazi portion of the story continues. I figure Ugin will be revived, but Khans block is also Sarkhan's story, so that might be as far as it goes. And I want to see interaction between Nahiri and Nissa actually, and where Nahiri was when Zendikar needed her most and was left in the care of some idiot Elf fascist. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 21:40
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mango sentinel posted:Relevant I actually like Anime Jace, it is definitely a good design choice for his character. I'm not so hot on the Chandra though.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:40
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Madmarker posted:I actually like Anime Jace, it is definitely a good design choice for his character. I'm not so hot on the Chandra though. Eh, it's just kind of bad art, the design is how he normally looks. Chandra's just loving ruins her and takes away much of what's good about her.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:44
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Angry Grimace posted:I get its a Commander product, but goddamn a 5/5 Hexproof for 3UU is kind of ridiculous. Hexproof is kind of nuts. Its just such a blatant color pie violation that it bothers me. It usually only shows up on aquatic creatures, so it makes kinda sense. It dives beneath the water to dodge your spells and pops up on command to receive yours  I got nothing on the Sphinxes hexproof, though.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:44
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Since the next set is called "Fate Reforged", I'm thinking we might see Nahari in standard soon.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:47
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BizarroAzrael posted:Eh, it's just kind of bad art, the design is how he normally looks. Chandra's just loving ruins her and takes away much of what's good about her. Why did her hair have to become pink, exactly? Anime? I think it's anime.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:48
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BizarroAzrael posted:It's a bit hard to get a read on Ugin, I thought, and that sort of makes sense with no colour identity. But I figure he didn't mention his home plane so Sorin wouldn't say "Tarkir? That shithole?" since it's probably about as suitable as Zendikar was for trapping the Eldrazi. Nahiri is pretty much guaranteed to be either dead or otherwise indisposed at this point.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:50
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Count Bleck posted:Why did her hair have to become pink, exactly?
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Archenteron posted:It usually only shows up on aquatic creatures, so it makes kinda sense. It dives beneath the water to dodge your spells and pops up on command to receive yours If they wanted to keep aquatic creatures to make sense from a game mechanic standpoint, they should've kept Islandhome. 
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Oct 29, 2014 21:51
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Archenteron posted:I got nothing on the Sphinxes hexproof, though. Sphinxes are highly magical as well as being intelligent, so they're probably just misdirecting or passively negating enemy magic. Alternatively, because gently caress you, they're blue.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:52
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Yawgmoth posted:Glacian. The guy who could have been a 'walker had I not jammed a couple powerstones in his kidneys. I? What does this guy mean, I? It was Yawgmoth who ... oh. Ha.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Her hair being on fire normally is pretty loving anime bro  Hades is so anime.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:52
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TheKingofSprings posted:Her hair being on fire normally is pretty loving anime bro the goggles are pretty anime as well. trust me i'm an 'nime expert.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:54
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I thought the binding of the Eldrazi was pre-Mending, which would perfectly well allow Nahiri to be wandering around in the storyline's present. If not, then hopefully Ugin and Sorin recruit Koth to replace her! 
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Oct 29, 2014 22:03
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TheKingofSprings posted:Actually a 5 mana 1/1 token generator is probably not that much better than a squire and that's what this walker more or less is without equipment. Aw, but Sliver Queen.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:07
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Mercury Crusader posted:If they wanted to keep aquatic creatures to make sense from a game mechanic standpoint, they should've kept Islandhome. I know there was at least one Foresthome creature (Gorilla Pack) and one Swamphome creature (that colorshifted serpent from PC). Ronom Serpent had Snowhome. I am a little saddened that Plainshome and Mountainhome will never be a thing.
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Mountainhome sounds like the most metal place to chill out.
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theironjef posted:Aw, but Sliver Queen. A 7/7 that generates 1/1s! 
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New player question: What was the deal with slivers? I understand that they were a sort of swarm-flavoured synergistic series of cards that were all about boosting other slivers, but were they actually good? Was there a period at all where sliver decks were stomping around standard like T-Rexes? Considering how seemingly bad they seem to be individually and being sprayed around all of the colours, I'm inclined to think not? But it would be interesting to hear from more experienced players.
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The Wicked Wall posted:New player question: What was the deal with slivers? I understand that they were a sort of swarm-flavoured synergistic series of cards that were all about boosting other slivers, but were they actually good? Was there a period at all where sliver decks were stomping around standard like T-Rexes? Slivers placed 4th at a SCG Legacy event this very weekend, actually! It's just a huge pile of synergistic, untargetable, flying beaters with counter backup. http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1219737
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Slivers have never been insane, but they've seen play a couple of times. Way back in the day, during the Trix era, there was a deck in Extended called Counter-Sliver which was probably the first real aggro-control deck. More recently, in Time Spiral block (which was a sweet format, by the way), there was a sliver deck that would get a ton of card advantage off that UG sliver which gave slivers defender and let a sliver's controller draw a card when a sliver came into play and would then remove it once it had an overwhelming advantage. Edit: I guess they see some play in Legacy too? That's neat.
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The Wicked Wall posted:New player question: What was the deal with slivers? I understand that they were a sort of swarm-flavoured synergistic series of cards that were all about boosting other slivers, but were they actually good? Was there a period at all where sliver decks were stomping around standard like T-Rexes? They have been reasonably good once or twice over the years. Really they were waiting for Commander like kids waiting for Christmas. TheKingofSprings posted:A 7/7 that generates 1/1s! Yeah, but CMC 5! She's my favorite card in MTG. theironjef fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Slivers were always this goofy fun tribe that would occasionally see constructed tournament play (I was only ever familiar with Counter-Sliver back in Old Extended) that was hampered by its very demanding mana base. Hell, you wanna stop Counter-Sliver back in the day? Play four Wastelands and four Rishadan Ports, maybe even four Price of Progress if you're playing red as well. Chances were your maindeck was already running the Wastelands and Ports already.
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theironjef posted:She's my favorite card in MTG. Sometimes you're way behind on board in 4 player commander with only Haste sliver + Mana sliver and you manage to topdeck her majesty. Those three really do beautiful things together
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deftest posted:Sometimes you're way behind on board in 4 player commander with only Haste sliver + Mana sliver and you manage to topdeck her majesty. Those three really do beautiful things together I've turned around a game by topdecking into her with Haste and Constricting on the table. Make two slivers and take away all those Sheoldreds farting up this commander game, thank you very much.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Slivers were always this goofy fun tribe that would occasionally see constructed tournament play (I was only ever familiar with Counter-Sliver back in Old Extended) that was hampered by its very demanding mana base. Hell, you wanna stop Counter-Sliver back in the day? Play four Wastelands and four Rishadan Ports, maybe even four Price of Progress if you're playing red as well. Chances were your maindeck was already running the Wastelands and Ports already. To be fair, rishadan ports worked pretty well against almost any deck. So well that they made a card in invasion specifically to hose it.
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Zoness posted:To be fair, rishadan ports worked pretty well against almost any deck. So well that they made a card in invasion specifically to hose it. Multiple cards, even.
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Elyv posted:Multiple cards, even. I love how unsubtle those had to be.
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