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twistedmentat posted:Ward is lose! I repeart Ward is lose! I assumed it would end either with this or with Ward escaping, and I couldn't decide which would be better.
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By the way, has the show always started with the Marvel logo and I've just been blind?
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Oct 29, 2014 06:33
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Bruceski posted:By the way, has the show always started with the Marvel logo and I've just been blind? Always.
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Oct 29, 2014 06:33
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Deadpool posted:Always. I've probably been slow changing channels after Flash, then. Thanks for confirming I'm crazy.
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Oct 29, 2014 06:59
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Teek posted:I think it'll be this. He'll be out there working an angle to try to get in Skye's good graces. Based on the parts of the fight we saw, Ward punched and kicked a lot of dudes, then got hold of a gun and appeared to lean forward to shoot someone in the head. Pretty safe bet he straight up murdered a van full of good guys.
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Oct 29, 2014 07:23
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VBane posted:God that was a great episode. My favorite moment was when Ward revealed in his twisted mind he still thought he was part of the team. I LOVE how they've totally defied the expectations of redemption with him. That was amazing. I want Ward to turn into a psycho stalker ex for the whole team and spend the rest of the series following them around trying to help and not understanding why they won't accept him. Soothing Vapors posted:Hahaha, yeah. In season 2 they've found a way to make May consistently look like the crazy badass that we heard so much about her being last year. Whoever's doing their fight stuff now really stepped their game up. I like that May now exists to get into crazy awesome fights. Even when she barely has a role in the episode's story she just tags along so she can spend some time kicking rear end.
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Oct 29, 2014 10:44
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Does anyone else think that the actor playing Christian Ward is way too old to be grant ward's brother? In the flashbacks he looked to be 2 or 3 years older than Ward at best but this guy looks about 20 years older.
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Oct 29, 2014 11:57
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Well, politics ages you (or maybe he just likes looking older than he is and disguises himself as such)
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Oct 29, 2014 11:59
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Yeah, Grant Ward looks like he's in his early 30's. (Brett Dalton is 31) Christian Ward looks like he's pushing 50. (Tim DeKay is 51) Momma Ward waited 20 years inbetween children, apparently.
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Oct 29, 2014 12:14
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So that means Chris Ward still lived with his parents when he was 35
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Oct 29, 2014 12:18
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awesome-express posted:So that means Chris Ward still lived with his parents when he was 35 The most disturbing truth of all.
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Oct 29, 2014 13:02
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Windows 98 posted:Either that or he single-handedly (triple?) crosses Hydra and fucks them so hard they can hardly recover. Therefore solidifying his "I'm back on the team but no one trusts me at all, but I'll work on it" plot line for season 3. I really hope that's the case. I personally believe Ward is not lying about anything at this point. I believe his brother really is the psycho gently caress he's always claimed, and it just runs in the family. I don't think Ward is a good guy, but I bet you before this is over, we'll find out his brother really is worse. I also bet he doesn't kill the SWAT guys just to tell Skye how much he's changed, and no other reason. Also seriously, what were they thinking? They should have dug up an Avengers style prison for that guy, even without superpowers. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 13:09
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VBane posted:Is that who that actor at the end was? I thought it was Dylan Bruno. It sounded kinda like him, but this show actually has already used Dylan Bruno - he was Rooster, the biker gang leader in "Yes Men". quote:God that was a great episode. My favorite moment was when Ward revealed in his twisted mind he still thought he was part of the team. I LOVE how they've totally defied the expectations of redemption with him. It kinda fits too. Ward's been a follower most of his life, obeying orders. Garret gave him direction, and after Garret died, Ward went nuts and tried to kill himself. After that stage, he fell back to being a follower of the last person who gave him orders: Coulson.
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Oct 29, 2014 13:12
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This show continues to impress me. I was worried that Skye was about to make a "bad decision" and release Ward to go get daddy, but it turned out she was just playing him all along. Ward is really loving crazy. I like how he was basically like "Well, yeah, I killed some dudes, but we all make mistakes. We're good now Coulson, right? Go team us!" May's fight scenes get more and more badass. Also, I think that Mack had a good point when talking to Simmons about accepting who Fitz is now, not trying to change him into who he was. It's looking like that is just how Fitz is going to be now, barring some kind of handwavium comicbook fix, which they seem to be avoiding.
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Oct 29, 2014 13:40
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We all knew Ward was gonna get out of that cell one way or another, and this is one of the best ways to do it. And I like how fitzsimmons is getting split up, because it annoyed me how bloody adorable they were in season 1.
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Mymla posted:And I like how fitzsimmons is getting split up, because it annoyed me how bloody adorable they were in season 1. I assume you spend your free time kicking puppies too
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Oct 29, 2014 15:05
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Mymla posted:We all knew Ward was gonna get out of that cell one way or another, and this is one of the best ways to do it. So did Fitz tell Simmons he wants to date? All the characters seem to imply that he did and she rejected him, but I don't recall him spilling his guts to her.
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Windows 98 posted:Either that or he single-handedly (triple?) crosses Hydra and fucks them so hard they can hardly recover. Therefore solidifying his "I'm back on the team but no one trusts me at all, but I'll work on it" plot line for season 3. I don't see him ever rejoining the team, and I'm pretty happy with this. He is deeply on everyone's shitlist and it's refreshing to see the characters not excusing his behavior (in comparison to typical tropes). I suspect through the series he's going to be the wildcard who is helping or "helping" SHIELD depending on his mental state and how close their desires are to his perception of their/Skye's needs.
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awesome-express posted:So did Fitz tell Simmons he wants to date? All the characters seem to imply that he did and she rejected him, but I don't recall him spilling his guts to her. Pretty sure he spilled his guts before he blew out the window of their prison of doom under da sea.
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awesome-express posted:So did Fitz tell Simmons he wants to date? All the characters seem to imply that he did and she rejected him, but I don't recall him spilling his guts to her. It was when they were in a box in the ocean about to die.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:27
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Ward's senator brother is the guy who played Kevin, the Bizarro-Jerry in Seinfeld.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:50
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imperialparadox posted:barring some kind of handwavium comicbook fix, which they seem to be avoiding. Skye just has Kree blood. The real Inhuman is Fitz.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:54
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Gonz posted:Yeah, Grant Ward looks like he's in his early 30's. (Brett Dalton is 31) So what does that make Ward and May? Found out earlier that Ming Na is 51, and was in the Street Fighter movie. (w Kylie Minogue)
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tatopom posted:So what does that make Ward and May? Found out earlier that Ming Na is 51, and was in the Street Fighter movie. (w Kylie Minogue) How is that even remotely similar? We're talking about one actor who is obviously too old to be the 2 or 3 year older brother of another actor. May's age has never been specified.
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tatopom posted:So what does that make Ward and May? Found out earlier that Ming Na is 51, and was in the Street Fighter movie. (w Kylie Minogue) Huh. I guess they had a May-December thing going on.
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tatopom posted:So what does that make Ward and May? Found out earlier that Ming Na is 51, and was in the Street Fighter movie. (w Kylie Minogue) You know, I think I placed what makes this work for her: She turns signs of aging into a "seasoned veteran" kind of look, which is very uncommon with female actors sadly. I fully suspect if the show goes for a long time, she could easily move into an administration role. They're already steering her towards it. Deadpool posted:This show is so good now. Wow. How are the renewal prospects looking? I really hope they start regaining some viewers. I ALMOST gave up and I'm glad I didn't. The rare show the rewards giving it an extended chance. Usually that's just a ticket to viewing pain. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 19:15
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So what are the odds that the Ward family is Hydra, with the brothers playing a long game where they can stake out any position for or against?
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The Lord Bude posted:How is that even remotely similar? We're talking about one actor who is obviously too old to be the 2 or 3 year older brother of another actor. May's age has never been specified. Maybe Grant was an accident
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Oct 29, 2014 19:37
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Can I request a gif of the last kick May used to beat the assassin guy with? It looked pretty brutal.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:55
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So Senator Jonsey decided to go into politics and be evil instead of playing baseball and following Management?
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Slamhound posted:So what are the odds that the Ward family is Hydra, with the brothers playing a long game where they can stake out any position for or against? Wouldn't be at all surprised if Christian was Hydra. I think Grant's just been dumped at this point though. Also for now I'm just going to assume that both Grant and Christian are monstrous assholes and that there's just something wrong with their family, rather than Grant having just made everything up. I mean that Berserker Staff thing in season 1 did seem to gently caress with his head quite a bit.
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Another awesome episode! I'll try to make some gifs later tonight. The fight scenes continue to step it up.  I will say one of my favorite moments was at the end with Simmons telling Ward, "If I ever see you again, I'll kill you.  "
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Blazing Ownager posted:How are the renewal prospects looking? I really hope they start regaining some viewers. Too early to tell. Last week was a series low, ratings-wise, at 1.7 in the demo, and last night's rating was a very, very tiny improvement (a tenth of a point). It's not hanging by a thread or anything like that, but I can't imagine ABC is thrilled that Flash and Arrow are getting the same demo ratings with probably a third of the budget of SHIELD. I doubt the show is in any real danger at this point, though, since Marvel announced like ten new movies yesterday, leading off with Civil War in a year and a half, and I'm sure Disney will want a TV presence in support of everything.
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I knew Ward was going to escape when they gave him 60's cop-show handcuffs, instead of liquid metal cuffs that mold into place and require a molecular key to unlock. ...maybe Coulson wanted him to escape?
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Those are stupid cuffs, Cap. If Cyclops just slips his arms in front of him he can blast those off.
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Timby posted:Too early to tell. Last week was a series low, ratings-wise, at 1.7 in the demo, and last night's rating was a very, very tiny improvement (a tenth of a point). It's not hanging by a thread or anything like that, but I can't imagine ABC is thrilled that Flash and Arrow are getting the same demo ratings with probably a third of the budget of SHIELD. Well Flash is getting close but is not averaging quite as well as this. And Arrow is several tenths of a point lower. With the ABC average being so low and Disney/Marvel looking to push it there's a more than decent chance it gets renewed unless the ratings crater.
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Yeah, With Coulson and Ward talking about trust and Ward talking about working for the team again, I wouldn't be surprised if Coulson and Ward are working together to get another Agent inside of Hydra. With the main theme of this season being Coulson as Director has to lie and do shady poo poo to keep SHIELD functioning.
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I really doubt Coulson would be in on any plan that involved Ward killing the random US law enforcement officers who happened to be guarding him. Edit: Fury picked him to rebuild Shield because although Coulson knows how the spygame is played, there are lines he won't rationalize crossing. Slashrat fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Slashrat posted:I really doubt Coulson would be in on any plan that involved Ward killing the random US law enforcement officers who happened to be guarding him. Look man, a Leader has to make tough choices sometimes, and sometimes an undercover agent needs to get his hands dirty. But yeah, I was mostly just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Wards escape(if not the particulars) was a plan by those two.
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