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Tatum Girlparts posted:There's just SO MUCH to talk about what a loving weird lunatic he was. It's kind of why I want to read this book. There has to be so much that I don't know.
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Mr. Fowl posted:It's kind of why I want to read this book. There has to be so much that I don't know. Yea I just got it on Kindle and I know it's gonna be a great read, there are so many ways that he wasn't a straight up like, actual crazy misogynist but just a weird dude with hosed up views of how things work so it's way more fun to read about.
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I'm not really part of that movement but I've been following it since it started, and that first segment was pretty bad. It bought into the idea that it started as an excuse to harass women rather than people being upset at a part of journalism that's lovely. I'd expect Colbert's team of all people to maybe hit on that rather than basement dwelling nerds harassing women, but I guess not. Kind of disappointing. And hearing Anita's name just made me turn the TV off. Justin_Brett fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Well I knew that it was only a matter of time before Stewart, Colbert, or Oliver would talk about The Issue That Will Not loving Die And Whose Name Shall Never Pass My Lips. I guess Colbert was best suited for that job because he's out in two months anyway, and he's already hated by a lot of Tumblr teens, so why not add the other side of the close-minded gamut to people who think that he should be cancelled? All the same, I'd still like to die, or at least take refuge in a fallout shelter with no wifi until everyone shuts the holy hell up about video games. That's what this is all about, and it's a symptom of a larger problem, not the "next generation of the culture wars" as some self-righteous fuckwad on Gawker Media called it.
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Justin_Brett posted:I'm not really part of that movement but I've been following it since it started, and that first segment was pretty bad. It bought into the idea that it started as an excuse to harass women rather than people being upset at a part of journalism that's lovely. I'd expect Colbert's team of all people to maybe hit on that rather than basement dwelling nerds harassing women, but I guess not. Kind of disappointing. It was literally started by a sad ex making things up, it was never about journalism, that's why it was the punchline.
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Justin_Brett posted:It bought into the idea that it started as an excuse to harass women rather than people being upset at a part of journalism that's lovely. That's all I'm going to say about this. In the meantime I guess Aasif Mandvi's show got canned so he goes back in the OP. Or not. It's two more months, who cares about anything.
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That Koch bit is why Stewart will never leave. Once you get creative control you never give it up.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:It was literally started by a sad ex making things up, it was never about journalism, that's why it was the punchline. It was the Streisand Effect - whether it was true or not, discussion of that accusation being censored nearly everywhere made sure people would pay attention to it, which uncovered other things.
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What other things? Corruption in gaming journalism has been an open secret for a long time. The only new thing Gamergate has brought is organized harassment of women in the gaming industry and media.
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:How does a princess saving herself make for a video game? Well sure. I mean, Ico is already almost that game.
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Tarezax posted:What other things? Corruption in gaming journalism has been an open secret for a long time.
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Tarezax posted:What other things? Corruption in gaming journalism has been an open secret for a long time. Hell, one of their favorite targets put out an annoted list of what's actually wrong. Which they promptly decided was a false flag distraction 
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404GoonNotFound posted:Hell, one of their favorite targets put out an annoted list of what's actually wrong. Thats a p good list.
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Justin_Brett posted:I'm not really part of that movement but I've been following it since it started, and that first segment was pretty bad. It bought into the idea that it started as an excuse to harass women rather than people being upset at a part of journalism that's lovely. I'd expect Colbert's team of all people to maybe hit on that rather than basement dwelling nerds harassing women, but I guess not. Kind of disappointing. Whoa, a true believer. Never thought we'd see one of those here of all places. Tarezax posted:What other things? Corruption in gaming journalism has been an open secret for a long time. And honestly, doesn't modern journalism have enough problems without people associating it with "game journalists"? raditts fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Park is the best crazy person in a long time. She's right in the meaty part of the curve between 'hilarious and stupid' and 'actually a little dangerous'. Sadly, she was a guest speaker at some event at my campus. 
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I like that Colbert gave games journalism the respect it deserves, by comparing it to Hollywood journalism. Also, I may not always agree with Sarkeesian but she came off as very reasonable in her interview and I liked that "I'm well liked" comment, she must have been laughing about that.
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Justin_Brett posted:I'm not really part of that movement but I've been following it since it started, and that first segment was pretty bad. It bought into the idea that it started as an excuse to harass women rather than people being upset at a part of journalism that's lovely. I'd expect Colbert's team of all people to maybe hit on that rather than basement dwelling nerds harassing women, but I guess not. Kind of disappointing. All the other kinds of enthusiast "journalism," whether that's boats or motorcycles or whatever, pretty much all have these exact same issues and they seem to be able to operate relatively fine and occasionally deal with these issues without their fans being noticed for harassing and stalking women on an international scale so maybe just, you know, not harass and stalk women or support a useless twitter "movement" that does. Christ I hate that I like video games.
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I wonder how well this would have gone over if Michael Che was still on TDS. I think Jessica would have had some choice words for him. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/29/micheal-che-street-harassment-video_n_6069936.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000046 Kibayasu posted:All the other kinds of enthusiast "journalism," whether that's boats or motorcycles or whatever, pretty much all have these exact same issues and they seem to be able to operate relatively fine and occasionally deal with these issues without their fans being noticed for harassing and stalking women on an international scale so maybe just, you know, not harass and stalk women or support a useless twitter "movement" that does. Christ I hate that I like video games. Video games are not to blame here, it's the self-identified human-garbage "gamers."
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raditts posted:Whoa, a true believer. Never thought we'd see one of those here of all places. Don't worry, all you have to do to find more of them is go to GBS.
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VirtualStranger posted:Don't worry, all you have to do to find more of them is go to GBS.
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:I thought that's what you were supposed to do to crazy people, though? I've seen you poo poo-post casual misogyny and casual racism in Daily/Colbert threads for loving years. You're a supremely unfunny and unlikable person and you should drat well reevaluate your state of mind. gently caress off. e: Some gamergators reacting to Colbert as it aired. 
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raditts posted:I wonder how well this would have gone over if Michael Che was still on TDS. I think Jessica would have had some choice words for him.
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raditts posted:I wonder how well this would have gone over if Michael Che was still on TDS. I think Jessica would have had some choice words for him. How can Che miss the point of the video? Specially when something similar was made on TDS. I mean, this is pretty much as if Jason Jones revealed that he actually thinks global warming is not a fact or if Sam Bee said that she enjoys Fox News and thinks that they are fair and balanced.
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Just caught up on TDS, Danny Trejo is still the best  .
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radlum posted:How can Che miss the point of the video? Specially when something similar was made on TDS. I mean, this is pretty much as if Jason Jones revealed that he actually thinks global warming is not a fact or if Sam Bee said that she enjoys Fox News and thinks that they are fair and balanced. Che was a TDS employee for like 3 months and people we thought were gone for ages still are, it doesn't seem to be a very tight knit group whatsoever. Like do you think Al Madrigal and Che ever met? I doubt it. IRQ fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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IRQ posted:Che was a TDS employee for like 3 months and people we thought were gone for ages still are, it doesn't seem to be a very tight knit group whatsoever. Like do you think Al Madrigal and Che ever met? I doubt it. John Oliver talks about hanging out coworkers all the time on the Bugle.
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It's less of a "hanging out with the correspondents" thing and more of a "knowing the kind of issue that the show would tackle".
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Wow, huge slam on L-Dog out of nowhere. Rude. 
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Keep Austin Weird? More like keep Austin white and insufferable.
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Man, 9 years. It seems like just last year Steven was having a gravitas off.
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Guys, I wish a party that vocally hates sweeping segments of the country wasn't poised to take control of the Senate.
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Tarezax posted:What other things? Corruption in gaming journalism has been an open secret for a long time. Well, as an example, since Zoe wasn't really well-known at the point of the allegations, people looked into her and found that she had negatively affected a charity that was meant for getting women into gaming, claiming it wanted women to work for free and that it was transphobic and exploitative. This naturally caused a lot of people to back out of funding, and not want to associate with the charity. They tried to get in contact with Zoe herself and a couple journalists, but no statement or interview they gave made it to an article. Not even Kotaku published anything about it, and a writer for that contacted them. The fact one of the people her ex said she had relations with was a judge for an award her game won also aroused curiosity, and through various sources they found out that Fez, another game that won, had 3 people from the company that made it on the judging panel that year, as well as 5 people who invested in it. One of them was even the Chair of the Jury. So yeah I think there's stuff in all this worth talking about besides gamers being whiny, white, straight males who hate women.
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Justin_Brett posted:Well, as an example, since Zoe wasn't really well-known at the point of the allegations, people looked into her and found that she had negatively affected a charity that was meant for getting women into gaming, claiming it wanted women to work for free and that it was transphobic and exploitative. This naturally caused a lot of people to back out of funding, and not want to associate with the charity. They tried to get in contact with Zoe herself and a couple journalists, but no statement or interview they gave made it to an article. Not even Kotaku published anything about it, and a writer for that contacted them. None of those things are true.
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Tarezax posted:Ahahahahaha what a sad bunch of lunatics. A lot of them are just useful idiots, to be fair, but the core is loving crazy and more than a bit frightening. The great irony is they're only galvanizing the feminist cause and demonstrating how important it is to change the industry, if the current standards attract these weird, miserable shitheads.
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See this is what happens when you stop putting nerds in lockers. We put them there for a reason people. 
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Also, loving  at the great Investigative Games Journalism about Fez, the game that won indie circlejerk awards for several years before it was released or even completed.
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Justin_Brett posted:Well, as an example, since Zoe wasn't really well-known at the point of the allegations, people looked into her and found that she had negatively affected a charity that was meant for getting women into gaming, claiming it wanted women to work for free and that it was transphobic and exploitative. This naturally caused a lot of people to back out of funding, and not want to associate with the charity. They tried to get in contact with Zoe herself and a couple journalists, but no statement or interview they gave made it to an article. Not even Kotaku published anything about it, and a writer for that contacted them. Hey everyone, get a load of this guy! Wakka wakka wakka!
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A slightly redeeming part about Gamergate is watching them stray out of their weird circle jerk universes and have to face the reality that everyone either hates them or doesn't give a poo poo about their absurd fig leaf of a cause.
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