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Ross posted:I found The Blade Itself pretty average except the end with the Bloody 9 reveal I just finished The Blade Itself and I can't figure out what you're referring to. I'm worried I missed it! Could you explain?
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Boing posted:I just finished The Blade Itself and I can't figure out what you're referring to. I'm worried I missed it! Could you explain? Logen has a sort of split personality. Logen Nine fingers and the Bloody Nine. All book he is a relatively laid back dude, but at the end he goes berserk and butchers all the inquisition hit men sent to take him out
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Oct 28, 2014 15:22
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I definitely didn't read that bit! Maybe it's in the next book? That, or my audiobook skipped it for some reason.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:16
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Boing posted:I definitely didn't read that bit! Maybe it's in the next book? That, or my audiobook skipped it for some reason. It's the second-to-last chapter of the first book, titled "The Bloody-Nine."
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Oct 28, 2014 16:45
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Can someone tell me if there is a point to Slow regard of silent things? I got 40% through and my eyes just glaze over the words now. Rothfuss wasn't kidding when he said this book was different - theres no conflict, no goals, no stakes, just an uninteresting mystery about a piece of junk. Although to be fair the story reads exactly like a story involving Auri would read so I'm not sure what I was expecting.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:18
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I'm not quite sure what I think of Slow Regard of Silent Things, I mean its not really a gripping read by any means, not much really happens but I think on a literary level it's the best thing he's written, he's really got the narration exactly right for an Auri tale and the prose is probably his best.
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Oct 29, 2014 00:52
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Even his titles sound pretentious.
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Oct 29, 2014 01:21
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Did anyone ever make a Robin Hobb thread? I just read the first book in the new trilogy and want to talk about it.
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Oct 29, 2014 13:01
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Man you guys seem to hate Rothfuss a lot for a thread about his books. I just finished name of the wind and while it's nothing amazing, it was a pretty enjoyable fantasy book in a lot of ways (though Kvothe friend zoning himself with Dinnah is hilarious if Rothfuss isn't self aware about that) Also the point of Auri in the first book anyways seems to be so he can have someone that gets him into the archives, it just takes literally the entire book to sort that out. eh, no more offensive than any other bit character. the love or hate for these books seems wildly out of proportion to the books themselves.
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Oct 29, 2014 14:25
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Levitate posted:Man you guys seem to hate Rothfuss a lot for a thread about his books. It always happens when the author of a series takes too long to put out the next installment (although curiously I don't see much hate for Scott Lynch). But ten chapters about fairy loving rarely help matters.
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Oct 29, 2014 15:23
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I may be biased because I like Auri as a character but I enjoyed every minute of The Slow Regard of Silent Things. It left the character a big mystery while giving us a glimpse of her world. It certainly wasn't action packed or a traditional story, but I found that part of the charm. I took Rothfuss's disclaimer about not buying the book at face value rather than seeing it as pretension. I don't think he meant "Don't buy this because it's over your head, pleb," but as he said it definitely won't appeal to everyone. If you like Auri and her weird gifts, it's definitely for you, though.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:47
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ElMudo posted:I may be biased because I like Auri as a character but I enjoyed every minute of The Slow Regard of Silent Things. It left the character a big mystery while giving us a glimpse of her world. It certainly wasn't action packed or a traditional story, but I found that part of the charm. After digesting it properly I think its genuinely the best thing he's written.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:08
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Lyon posted:Did anyone ever make a Robin Hobb thread? I just read the first book in the new trilogy and want to talk about it. I still haven't finished the book (I kind of... got bored in the middle) but when I do I'd be up for a general Robin Hobb thread, and for talking about this book specifically.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:11
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MrFlibble posted:It always happens when the author of a series takes too long to put out the next installment (although curiously I don't see much hate for Scott Lynch). But ten chapters about fairy loving rarely help matters. I could forgive his need to get out his pent up nerdfic if 2/3 of each book wasn't "Harry Potter, but everyone's a (bigger) rear end in a top hat" because I honestly could do without yet another chapter of him going to play at an inn and shooting the poo poo or seeing his crush who he's almost definitely going to kill and do nothing that progresses the story.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:38
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StoneOfShame posted:After digesting it properly I think its genuinely the best thing he's written. I'm left wondering if Auri is simply OCD with respect to her pursuit of perfection and her rituals or if there is a method to her madness. She's obviously broken, but the story hints that she is very knowledgeable about magic. Is her pursuit of perfection just mental illness or she is seeing something real?
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ElMudo posted:I'm left wondering if Auri is simply OCD with respect to her pursuit of perfection and her rituals or if there is a method to her madness. She's obviously broken, but the story hints that she is very knowledgeable about magic. Is her pursuit of perfection just mental illness or she is seeing something real? I think its a bit of both really, she's broken by magic as is stated in the main books that magic can easily crack you especially if you're talents are in certain areas. I actually found a lot of similarities between Auri's feeling out the places things belong and almost the personalities of the objects and the way naming is taught, its a deliberate similarity as well I think.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:52
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MrFlibble posted:It always happens when the author of a series takes too long to put out the next installment (although curiously I don't see much hate for Scott Lynch). But ten chapters about fairy loving rarely help matters. Lynch typically gets a pass because he was dealing with actual psychological issues. Rothfuss and GRRM, on the other hand, are taking forever because they keep getting tied up with other stuff.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:29
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ElMudo posted:I took Rothfuss's disclaimer about not buying the book at face value rather than seeing it as pretension. I don't think he meant "Don't buy this because it's over your head, pleb," but as he said it definitely won't appeal to everyone. If you like Auri and her weird gifts, it's definitely for you, though. Yeah, I agree with this. Just reading his blog post (http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2014/10/the-slow-regard-of-silent-things/) makes me anxious for him.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:42
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Ornamented Death posted:Lynch typically gets a pass because he was dealing with actual psychological issues. Rothfuss and GRRM, on the other hand, are taking forever because they keep getting tied up with other stuff.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:12
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Lynch also managed to tell a complete story in Lies of Locke Lamora, so I didn't have to wait years to find out how the heist turned out. Rothfuss's and GRRM's book are much less satisfying standing on their own.
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Oct 29, 2014 21:59
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Levitate posted:Man you guys seem to hate Rothfuss a lot for a thread about his books. Eh there have been plenty of good discussions in the thread, and good discussion about a subject doesn't have to be just positive. Lots of people went into great detail on what they liked/didn't like. A thread about a particular author is a lot more fun when people are willing to discuss what they feel works and doesn't work in their works, instead of unconditionally loving everything they do.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:02
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Chapter 1: Auri gets out of bed and looks at collection of found objects. Chapter 2: Auri takes a bath and looks for found objects. Chapter 3: Auri takes a walk and looks for found objects.
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Srice posted:Eh there have been plenty of good discussions in the thread, and good discussion about a subject doesn't have to be just positive. Lots of people went into great detail on what they liked/didn't like. I liked the first book. As a PhD student who is nearly finished I loved Rothfuss description and detail of the I intricate relationships you build with faculty and your fellow students at the post-grad level. I even "liked" the secret 2nd book even though I too would critique his total lack of female agency. Once more, hid spergy neck beard fantasy of dominating and, in that domination, complete destruction of the will of what is in essence a mythological goddess of love, disgusted me. I just bought the new book, and will frankly keep reading unless it gets even more sexist and disgusting because I'm "hooked" into the story; however, at no point have I thought Rothfuss was a great (or even good) writer. He's a fine story teller, and struck me as a pretty good novice novelist with potential. His novicesness I think is easy to see when you think of just how awesome the protagonist is at everything--despite his ineptitude at the present. At many points, it really reads like an author with a massive ego barely describing a character who represents a the fantastic vision he has of himself. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Oct 30, 2014 03:09
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ZombieLenin posted:I even "liked" the secret 2nd book even though I too would critique his total lack of female agency. Once more, hid spergy neck beard fantasy of dominating and, in that domination, complete destruction of the will of what is in essence a mythological goddess of love, disgusted me. She's a Goddess of Love in the same way that Sirens were good singers whom men liked to listen to. She definitely isn't some Venus-type love goddess, she's a fey nymphomaniac who routinely hosed guys to death. The destruction of her will is likely due to Kvothe calling her true name during the struggle he had against her. Kvothe is even told later on to never tell anyone else his true name, not even the old lady who keeps the swords' histories. That whole section was dumb and seemed to badly reek of some nerd wish-fulfillment fantasy though. Of the Authors I've read over the last year he's probably the worst one. I'm interested to see how the story ends but it's not because he's a decent storyteller or worldbuilder, because he isn't. Reading the Stormlight Archives recently gave a pretty huge gap in writing talent. Even the worst parts of Kaladin's depression or the early chapters with Shallan were better than a fair bit of Kingkiller's fluff. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Oct 30, 2014 09:03
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So we're all in agreement that Kvothe changed his real name and thats why he sucks at magic and everything now right?
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Oct 30, 2014 14:39
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Solice Kirsk posted:So we're all in agreement that Kvothe changed his real name and thats why he sucks at magic and everything now right? quote:But what I really believe is this variant. Part of his name, the V and the H, are shut in the Thrice Locked Chest, the way part of the moon’s name was shut in Jax’s box.
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Oct 30, 2014 15:56
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One thought I had about it was that it came from a broken oath; Kvothe swears his serious oaths by his name, his power, and his good (left/right) hand and now he's Kote, he can't do sympathy, and he can't fight.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:47
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Khizan posted:One thought I had about it was that it came from a broken oath; Kvothe swears his serious oaths by his name, his power, and his good (left/right) hand and now he's Kote, he can't do sympathy, and he can't fight. ...except he can both do sympathy and fight, at least under certain circumstances. Kote breaks a bottle of strawberry wine in Chapter 6 that he's not touching: quote:Kote stood with his back to the room, a stillness in his body and a terrible silence clenched between his teeth. His right hand, tangled in a clean white cloth, made a slow fist. Eight inches away a bottle shattered. The smell of strawberries filled the air alongside the sound of splintering glass.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:54
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And he also fails to light the demon on fire and gets his rear end handed to him when a regular joe bandit breaks out of his hold. I think it's obvious that he's lost something whether it's because of a broken oath or he renamed himself or he caught part of his name in the chest. I think it's equally obvious that he didn't lose everything.
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Oct 30, 2014 17:02
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Khizan posted:And he also fails to light the demon on fire and gets his rear end handed to him when a regular joe bandit breaks out of his hold. I think it's obvious that he's lost something whether it's because of a broken oath or he renamed himself or he caught part of his name in the chest. I think it's equally obvious that he didn't lose everything. He also fails to convince some young boy not to go off to war. Kvothe described as silver-tongued but Kote can't even convince the kid that he *is* Kvothe. I think Kote has failed at least once at everything Kvothe has been said to be good at, and that that's probably significant.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:37
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SolTerrasa posted:He also fails to convince some young boy not to go off to war. Kvothe described as silver-tongued but Kote can't even convince the kid that he *is* Kvothe. I think Kote has failed at least once at everything Kvothe has been said to be good at, and that that's probably significant. Interestingly, we haven't seen him fail at making music - he just doesn't try at all. That might be significant too.
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Oct 30, 2014 22:50
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I got money that the only resolution we'll get is Kvothe getting his name back, and a tease for the next trilogy.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:02
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BananaNutkins posted:I got money that the only resolution we'll get is Kvothe getting his name back, and a tease for the next trilogy. I think this has been the plan all along, honestly. The frame story is about a historian searching for the truth behind the legend of Kvothe and finding it. Once Kvothe finishes telling that story, the Kingkiller Trilogy itself is essentially over and ready to move on to the Kvothe Saves the World trilogy or whatever. Basically Rothfuss is never going to stop writing about Kvothe and that is tragic because he's talented but will never really accomplish anything if he can't move past his mary-sue character.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:14
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Ornamented Death posted:I think this has been the plan all along, honestly. The frame story is about a historian searching for the truth behind the legend of Kvothe and finding it. Once Kvothe finishes telling that story, the Kingkiller Trilogy itself is essentially over and ready to move on to the Kvothe Saves the World trilogy or whatever. He'll probably accomplish making a boatload of money, and given his apparent focus on the importance of making money my guess is he'll be ok with that.
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Oct 31, 2014 02:49
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If he keeps releasing a book every 4 years, then he would finish the first trilogy at 42 and the second a 54 in 2027. That would be about the same time as his kids finish college, so he could possibly retire if he wanted too. Jim Butcher has said multiple times that the number of dresden books will be based off long his son goes to college.
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Calidus posted:If he keeps releasing a book every 4 years, then he would finish the first trilogy at 42 and the second a 54 in 2027. That would be about the same time as his kids finish college, so he could possibly retire if he wanted too. Jim Butcher has said multiple times that the number of dresden books will be based off long his son goes to college. Jim Butcher has stated the exact length of Dresden several times. I think it is 20 books + a final 3 book apocalypse trilogy but I could mis-remembering those numbers a bit. Whether that lines up with his kid's college timeline I don't know. Edit: I guess it isn't quite as exact as I thought. Wiki and Jim Butcher's FAQ posted:Butcher is currently planning for approximately twenty books in the "case files" of the series, to be capped by a further "big apocalyptic trilogy". At the Tyson's Corner Book Signing on August 1, 2011, Butcher hinted that the titles of the apocalyptic trilogy would be "Stars and Stones", "Hell's Bells", and "Empty Night", referring to curse words used by Harry and the White Court vampires, respectively. Lyon fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Oct 31, 2014 14:56
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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDJDn-ggqOo&t=1010s
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Bizob posted:He'll probably accomplish making a boatload of money, and given his apparent focus on the importance of making money my guess is he'll be ok with that. Given he's teaching english at a state school with less than 10k students, I'd say his focus is not making money. Otherwise he'd be writing full time. Steven King in the 80s was focused on making money, compare the output of the two.
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Hughlander posted:Given he's teaching english at a state school with less than 10k students, I'd say his focus is not making money. Otherwise he'd be writing full time. Steven King in the 80s was focused on making money, compare the output of the two. Stephen King was on a TON of coke during the 80s, which at least partially explains is output then.
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Bizob posted:Stephen King was on a TON of coke during the 80s, which at least partially explains is output then. well it sounds like we have a solution to getting the Door of Stone released faster...
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