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TacoHavoc posted:I don't think you are supposed to notch railing posts anymore. While that makes them weaker, it can still be done safely. While it is not to code in some places, it is in others that simply state: railing must hold X lbs (usually 200-300).
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In the first video, they attach the boards to the posts by using carriage bolts alone, which then causes the entire load of the deck to depend on the shear strength of the bolts. Usually the bolt won't break, but the load can cause the wood to shred. The proper way to attach the boards is to place them directly atop the posts, either by notching a 6x6 post or by using a fastener for a 4x4. The guardrail posts are notched, which may be code but isn't the greatest way to attach to a deck... It weakens the post and the force applied at the top of the post (where people usually leans) is magnified by through the lever attachment to the deck  In the stairs episode, they also don't place the stringer bases on a concrete pad or compacted gravel. They do attach to posts with footings, but it still looks like the stringers are in contact with the ground. I know this because I'm facing similar issues on my deck and have spent a lot of time reading about and looking at pictures of improperly built decks. This site is great: http://www.nachi.org/deck-inspections.htm
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Laminator posted:I know this because I'm facing similar issues on my deck and have spent a lot of time reading about and looking at pictures of improperly built decks. This is what we call a "first day expert." Again this is how decks were built 10-20 years ago. It's only been in the last several years that you could even find things like strong-tie saddle brackets without special ordering them. I'm not seeing how this is so horribly horribly wrong. It's all very typical and you'll likely find that most existing decks were built exactly this way. Decks that are still perfectly safe. I encourage everyone building a deck to do better and use modern methods, whether required by code or not, but none of this is that big of a deal when done properly.
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I mean, it's hard to deny that those are stronger building techniques, but I have literally never seen them used in my area. Plenty of inspected and approved decks around here that are resting on a bolt-carried ledger board. By all means, go above code when you can, but I don't think the Lowes video is going to result in disaster.
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Oct 25, 2014 15:58
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Laminator posted:In the first video, they attach the boards to the posts by using carriage bolts alone, which then causes the entire load of the deck to depend on the shear strength of the bolts. Only if the bolts aren't tightened. When properly tightened, the load is transferred along the entire mating faces. That's kinda the point of threaded fasteners.
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Motronic posted:This is what we call a "first day expert." I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means, and I'm not saying it's horribly wrong. But this video isn't from 10-20 years ago, it's a few years old, and it's from a big-name store that a lot of people would use as a reference for building a deck. The 2009 IRC codes explicitly state that attaching girders to posts in that manner is prohibited  page 8 of this document http://www.awc.org/publications/dca/dca6/dca6-09.pdf I mean if your local area permits bolting through the post as code, then go for it, but it's not like it takes a lot of special tools or brackets to notch a post Slugworth posted:I mean, it's hard to deny that those are stronger building techniques, but I have literally never seen them used in my area. Plenty of inspected and approved decks around here that are resting on a bolt-carried ledger board. The video shows a free-standing deck, not one with a ledger board. A bolted ledger board is fine. Laminator fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 16:20
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One Day Fish Sale posted:Only if the bolts aren't tightened. When properly tightened, the load is transferred along the entire mating faces. That's kinda the point of threaded fasteners. Glad I am not the only one who read that line about bolts in shear and went "wait... what?" This is in fact the whole point of bolts.
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Oct 25, 2014 16:35
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kastein posted:Glad I am not the only one who read that line about bolts in shear and went "wait... what?" Well that's all about what kind of bolt performance you want. Generally tightening the bolts and taking it through bearing friction of the washers won't be good for any connection to say...concrete or wood because of long term creep/shrinkage that eventually will cause the connection to loosen. Also, bearing friction is generally a fraction of your shear capacity for the bolt. The notched post makes more sense to me as a structural engineer because you can't take the load through a friction connection in the long term, not to mention bearing stress in the direction of the grain might cause cracking of the wood post over time.
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Antifreeze Head posted:Cock and balls window, is that what we're looking at here or is there something else that's horribly unsound that I'm not seeing? What's it say that instead of even noticing the cock and balls window (thanks for that), I first noticed the suspiciously underdeveloped bush(es) where the sun don't shine?
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PainterofCrap posted:We have houses like that here in Philadelphia. I wish i had pictures of it, but my brother in law used to do HVAC and kick carpets (And now manages a home depot...giving others all sorts of not-up-to-code advice) and likes to reno things without permits, like his entire basement, which made getting a refi on their home signed off on...difficult as there wasn't a single permit pulled for the thing. But they used to live outside of Philly in NJ, in a home on the historic registry. And decided to put in central air. and redo the carpets. and the wiring. And while it was all done well...that was like a six figure fine they had to eat for doing that. Oops.
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AA is for Quitters posted:But they used to live outside of Philly in NJ, in a home on the historic registry. And decided to put in central air. and redo the carpets. and the wiring. And while it was all done well...that was like a six figure fine they had to eat for doing that. Oops. Well, you can't have archaic and heat it too 
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canyoneer posted:Well, you can't have archaic and heat it too 
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canyoneer posted:Well, you can't have archaic and heat it too  Also: 
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Oct 30, 2014 00:44
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Dick Trauma posted:
I'm in IT. That is not even remotely the worst network closet I've seen. 
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Oct 30, 2014 00:53
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Dick Trauma posted:
I'd guess the floor is wet/being poured, continuous internet is required and that's the only access point? The wall looks a lot cleaner than the floor.
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Dick Trauma posted:
I mean at least it's "mounted" to the wall rather than in a tangled heap on the floor. It's a start 
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Oct 30, 2014 01:56
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They taped it up rather than guessing where there might not be boards in the case and just running woodscrews through. Not the worst.
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Oct 30, 2014 02:37
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I like all the bracing strips of tape. Dealing with a real duct tape professional here who has learned some important duct tape lessons along the way.
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I was swapping in a new toilet in a bathroom in my house that was part of an addition done by a previous owner. The toilet flange slots had bent enough that that they wouldn't hold the closet bolts anymore. So I bought a new flange repair kit and started screwing it into the floor. The screws went all of the way in and grabbed nothing, just spinning. I got longer screws thinking I was still in the tile/thinset/backerboard and hadn't made it to the subfloor. 2 1/2" screws still were spinning. I stuck my 4 inch screw driver in the drilled hole, and it went all of the way in. So I crawl into the crawlspace, pull down all of the insulation under the sub-floor, look up and see the image below. A rough-cut 7" hole for a 4" drain pipe. The previous flange was apparently mounted just to the tile (structural tile, I guess?). Two screws hit a few splinters of sub-floor, so at least there was that.  Several hours of needless work later, I successfully cutout an insert to fill the gap around the pipe and sistered a larger piece of plywood underneath, and have the flange securely mounted. I don't want to think about what other terrible things are hiding in this addition that I can't see. mshade fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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mshade posted:I don't want to think about what other terrible things are hiding in this addition that I can't see. The day time travel is invented is the day that a significant portion of the populace will suddenly always have had a long string of broken jaws and black eyes.
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Oct 30, 2014 06:49
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 Was it REALLY that hard not to measure a loving wall properly?
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Boat posted:I'm in IT. That is not even remotely the worst network closet I've seen. Agreed.. I've seen things man. I have… seen things you people wouldn't believe… Switches hanging from power cables off a jury rigged outlet wired into an emergency exit sign. I watched power lights glittering like a tiny star on and off on an inaccessible router someone cemented into a floor drain. All those… moments… will be lost in time, like [small cough] tears… in… rain. Time… to die… 
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nthalp posted:Switches hanging from power cables off a jury rigged outlet wired into an emergency exit sign. I am on hold and I don't know how to mute my phone and trying desperately to hold in laughter right now you bastard
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NancyPants posted:I am on hold and I don't know how to mute my phone and trying desperately to hold in laughter right now you bastard I was gonna be real if no one got that.
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Oct 30, 2014 17:57
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I was pretty sure something was up by like halfway through the fourth line. Well done.
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nthalp posted:Agreed.. I've seen things man. Go with "All those... packets... will be lost in transit" and you're golden, I think.
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nthalp posted:I was gonna be real The day I don't recognize a variation on Roy's speech is the day I turn in my nerd card and lay down to die myself. Nicely done.
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Darchangel posted:The day I don't recognize a variation on Roy's speech is the day I turn in my nerd card and lay down to die myself. Nicely done. I've never even seen the movie (I KNOW SHUT UP) and I recognized it.
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Sorry to say friends, it was the outlet wired into the exit sign that did me in. Roy's speech pretty much only makes me laugh anymore when I'm drunk.
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Jordanis posted:Go with "All those... packets... will be lost in transit" and you're golden, I think. poo poo.
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I saw this at an actual communications company:   Why, yes, it does go to the main AND the generator on the same line. No, that door doesn't lock.
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At least they clearly labeled where they keep all their Live Voltage.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:At least they clearly labeled where they keep all their Live Voltage. I didn't see the word 'live' at first, it somehow made the sign even funnier.
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Wish I could get a thermal photo cause the toilet in hotel I'm staying at in Austin is plumbed incorrectly. Felt oddly warm sitting on the can and when flushed it had the aroma that only poo being cooked can give off. Water feed is actually the hot water tap. Edit: There is no cold water right now  , the sink is hot water and hotter water.
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dietcokefiend posted:Wish I could get a thermal photo cause the toilet in hotel I'm staying at in Austin is plumbed incorrectly. Felt oddly warm sitting on the can and when flushed it had the aroma that only poo being cooked can give off. Water feed is actually the hot water tap. I lived in an apartment that had the toilet hooked up like that. Management refused to repair/repipe it, and the hot water dissolved the rubber in the tank seals so quickly. They would start to leak and need replacing on a 6 to 8 month cadence. Then one weekend it broke entirely (only bathroom in the entire apartment) and they said it would be a few days before maintenance could get out there. I went ballistic. Unethical and super illegal.
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On the other hand, heated toilet seats are awesome.
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totalnewbie posted:On the other hand, heated toilet seats are awesome. Except when it's a public restroom and you know that warmth is from someone else's rear end, making GBS threads in the exact same spot you're making GBS threads. It's just a little too personal.
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