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Chamale posted:Tinker is banned in Legacy, but it is honestly so good that Vintage delver decks sometimes play their 1 Tinker alongside 1 Blightsteel Colossus. It was just a joke referencing a movie title 
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rabidsquid posted:It was just a joke referencing a movie title It's a book title
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The Wicked Wall posted:New player question: What was the deal with slivers? I understand that they were a sort of swarm-flavoured synergistic series of cards that were all about boosting other slivers, but were they actually good? Was there a period at all where sliver decks were stomping around standard like T-Rexes? Here's a guy who really, really* loves his Slivers EDH deck explaining it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYRQyBV263c *foiled drat near everything + wooden deck box? yeah, I think he likes that deck jassi007 posted:He mentioned it earlier, Soul Sisters with Norin the Wary. I like punishing forge using that deck in mirror matches. While probably not ideal for Actual Magic games I make room for 4 Archangels  and 3 Abzan Battle Priests  because I like to make my CPU burn  By that point each combat step on the AI's turn is taking about a minute with the cpu core pegged and it takes a few minutes to run through the triggers each time a creature enters the battlefield on my side. I've been thinking of trying these out too, but they're probably even more "win more" than the archangels + priests   Thanks suicidsteve, I like this deck.
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MisterOblivious posted:
My favorite "What have I done?!" moment happened when I attacked with so many guys (100-something; I really went off) that it took me 5 minutes to add all the Norin triggers to the stack. I've since learned to cast a spell before attacking or just press F7.
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Oct 31, 2014 07:40
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I remember when I entered a tournament with a 250-card Battle of Wits/Cephalid Breakfast deck. I then reanimated my Necrotic Ooze, flashed back Open the Vaults, and then lost to the timer as I took 20 minutes trying to put the triggers on the stack.
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A big flaming stink posted:I support all efforts to break Magic Online There was a Standard deck at one point that used Primal Surge, Craterhoof Behemoth, Wild Beastmaster, and Infinite Reflection to deal something like 4444 damage in one combat step. I think that one crashed MTGO if it ever went off successfully.
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Chamale posted:I remember when I entered a tournament with a 250-card Battle of Wits/Cephalid Breakfast deck. I then reanimated my Necrotic Ooze, flashed back Open the Vaults, and then lost to the timer as I took 20 minutes trying to put the triggers on the stack. Did they not have the "stack triggers automatically" function then?
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Angry Grimace posted:Did they not have the "stack triggers automatically" function then? There were a lot of triggers that required me to make decisions. It was a stupid deck.
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Oct 31, 2014 08:37
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With bloodstained mires being around 10.50 shipped from Amazon, polluted deltas being around 14, wooded foothills being around 11.50, windswept heaths being around 13, and flooded strands being around 14, isn't there someone here who either toxxed, or practically toxxed that it wouldn't happen?
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I had a deck on MTGO once that had a tendency to win from the opponent timing out rather than the main win condition. It wasn't a good deck, mind you, and the timeout thing really wasn't the intent of the deck, but it just sort of happened that way. I don't remember all the details, but it was basically the Turbo-Fog deck that was briefly possible around two or three years ago. It involved Rites of Flourishing, Temple Bell, Timely Reinforcements, Fog, and other stall cards like that. This was not a deck that planned to win quickly; the win condition was to make the opponent draw his entire deck, with one or two Elixir of Immortality keeping me from decking along with him. The thing is, MTGO (at least the previous version) had a tendency to really tank its performance if too many permanents were on board at the same time... which this deck really encouraged from both sides what with all the card draw, playing lands, and vomiting out Soldier tokens. As the game ground on, you could tell people were taking longer and longer to go through their turns. After a while it could take minutes just to tap mana. Basically, any opponent that had a worse computer than mine would just end up timing out. I feel like kind of an rear end in a top hat for even playing the deck in the first place, but I guess since it never went outside the casual room at least people could concede if they really hated playing against it.
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kizudarake posted:With bloodstained mires being around 10.50 shipped from Amazon, polluted deltas being around 14, wooded foothills being around 11.50, windswept heaths being around 13, and flooded strands being around 14, isn't there someone here who either toxxed, or practically toxxed that it wouldn't happen? People are dumb about mtg finance stuff. I'm no businessman but even I knew what fetch prices were going to do with this set, it's basic supply and demand. Same reason I'm holding off on buying any zendikar fetches until the spring set to see if they actually get reprinted. I traded locally with a guy a few weeks back who was giving people extra value in trades for any khans fetches he could get ahold of because he insisted that they would be back up in the $60 range in a few months. He was pretty smug about how smart he apparently thought he was. I laughed inside while giving him rabblemasters at their peak for expensive modern staples.
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Oct 31, 2014 09:48
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Its always hilarious to run a singleton Stain the Mind in a black deck. People never actually expect that you're going to rip all of their Siege Rhinos or whatever. Then again, I'm a big proponent of running singletons of weird cards to mess with people.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:People are dumb about mtg finance stuff. I'm no businessman but even I knew what fetch prices were going to do with this set, it's basic supply and demand. Same reason I'm holding off on buying any zendikar fetches until the spring set to see if they actually get reprinted. I traded locally with a guy a few weeks back who was giving people extra value in trades for any khans fetches he could get ahold of because he insisted that they would be back up in the $60 range in a few months. He was pretty smug about how smart he apparently thought he was. I laughed inside while giving him rabblemasters at their peak for expensive modern staples. I'm trading out of my Zendikar fetches right now, surprised I found a taker for my Verdant Catacombs. Debating if I want to shift my Marsh Flats, BW is my thing and even if I don't brew something for them in modern, I might like them handy for standard. Not crazy about the art though, a dead dragon in a marsh might look better.
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Probs be a living dragon hanging out in a marsh, if they do it.kizudarake posted:With bloodstained mires being around 10.50 shipped from Amazon, polluted deltas being around 14, wooded foothills being around 11.50, windswept heaths being around 13, and flooded strands being around 14, isn't there someone here who either toxxed, or practically toxxed that it wouldn't happen?
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A big flaming stink posted:I support all efforts to break Magic Online Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXG5rNe_tI
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Applebees posted:Here's the rule. Huh. Well, I lost a game I shouldn't have, then. Good to know.
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kizudarake posted:With bloodstained mires being around 10.50 shipped from Amazon, polluted deltas being around 14, wooded foothills being around 11.50, windswept heaths being around 13, and flooded strands being around 14, isn't there someone here who either toxxed, or practically toxxed that it wouldn't happen? That isn't the bottom.
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I'm wondering if Bloodstained Mire and Wooded Foothills will get around $5. I'm not going to claim superior knowledge of anything but I'd put decent odds on that and the rest being under $10 at some point soon.
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toadee posted:I'm wondering if Bloodstained Mire and Wooded Foothills will get around $5. I'm not going to claim superior knowledge of anything but I'd put decent odds on that and the rest being under $10 at some point soon. I think the knowledge that they will be eternal playable until the end of time will keep them all at $10 pretty much permanently. No one's going to let them go for $5 unless they're really desperate, when they know they can just wait and sell them for more later.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:I think the knowledge that they will be eternal playable until the end of time will keep them all at $10 pretty much permanently. No one's going to let them go for $5 unless they're really desperate, when they know they can just wait and sell them for more later. I wouldn't be surprised to see the "worse" (read: not really played in Standard) fetches at $7 or $8 - that's about where shocklands have settled with a similar level of Eternal demand. $5 is a bit of a stretch, but I think sub-$10 is quite plausible. The fetches that actually see real standard play probably won't go below $10-$12.
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Jabor posted:I wouldn't be surprised to see the "worse" (read: not really played in Standard) fetches at $7 or $8 - that's about where shocklands have settled with a similar level of Eternal demand. $5 is a bit of a stretch, but I think sub-$10 is quite plausible. Which fetches would those be because I've seen all of them in multiples In a variety of decks The one I've seen the least of is Windswept Heath.
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lsv: look what i did lsv: to the game lsv: for value
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Angry Grimace posted:Its always hilarious to run a singleton Stain the Mind in a black deck. People never actually expect that you're going to rip all of their Siege Rhinos or whatever. I ran slaughter games mainboard when I was playing murdergoats just because you could guess a decklist 95% of the time.
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 "gently caress you Birthing Pod, a deck in a format where I'm not even legal." VV: gently caress how did I forget about Sneak and Show, I love that deck. Serperoth fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Gets Show and Tell, Sneak Attack and a little bit of Dredge doesn't it?
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Serperoth posted:
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PrinnySquadron posted:Gets Show and Tell, Sneak Attack and a little bit of Dredge doesn't it?
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Serperoth posted:
Holy poo poo.
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Also, full decklists and the card image spoiler are out: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/commander-2014-edition-decklists-2014-10-31
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Serperoth posted:
Wizards is finally listening to my warnings about Deadeye Navigator. Also RIP my own Deadeye deck 
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So much for the theory that they'd reprint the full cycle of Commands (or any other valuable reprints for that matter ). Looks like none of these should be bought out hard like the True-Name Nemesis deck was unless the Dualcaster Mage ends up being the new hotness.
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It's a good day for Death and Taxes! Again!
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Did anyone post this image that's been floating around? I just love the short narrative.
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Boo to the white deck not having Batterskull. Yes I have a playset, and yes that includes two of the cool GP promo, THAT'S NOT THE POINT.Serperoth posted:
Also hits Undying and Persist, if Murderous Redcap or Kitchen Finks see Legacy play.
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I wonder if that Sneak and Show hoser will see much play. Death and Taxes already has a great matchup between Karakas Thalia and Revoker and I doubt SnS is what's holding Maverick back. Don't see any of the white control decks running that card when they have access to permission and more flexible hate. Maybe that shitball soldiers list becomes solid tier 1.5? Hell Sneak and Show has barely been winning.
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The red deck comes with GOBLIN WELDERRRRRR
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Well, no Batterskull for Nahiri BUT they did give us Skullclamp! So they intended for her +2 to read "draw 2 cards" after all! Edit: FFS did we really have to have Cyclonic Rift in the blue deck? That card should be banned.
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