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Randler posted:Best case scenario: The lack of Scottish Labour votes will make the Tories the ruler of the United Kingdoms for the forseeable future. Best case for who?
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Badger of Basra posted:lol you dumb motherfuckers, that's what you get for believing david cameron What happened, did a group of old people vote and assure themselves the future was safe and then let themselves become the mist?
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Nov 1, 2014 17:37
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RuanGacho posted:What happened, did a group of old people vote and assure themselves the future was safe and then let themselves become the mist? it turned out that the pledge the three leaders signed to give scotland more powers if they stayed was bullshit. just like the last referendum in the 70s
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Nov 1, 2014 17:39
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CharlestheHammer posted:Best case for who? People who don't like the British and wish them ill. 
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Nov 1, 2014 17:40
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Badger of Basra posted:lol you dumb motherfuckers, that's what you get for believing david cameron What changed?
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Nov 1, 2014 17:40
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scotland, known tory stronghold
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Nov 1, 2014 17:41
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Cameron's only got seven more months in power, so of course he's going to troll hard.
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Nov 1, 2014 17:44
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CoolCab posted:scotland, known tory stronghold My understanding is that Labours losses going to the SNP would still lead to Tory dominance in Britain due to the silly way your queen chooses who will become PM. 
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Nov 1, 2014 17:44
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Randler posted:People who don't like the British and wish them ill. It didn't work for you just before die Erster Weltkrieg, what makes you think it will work now, Meshigene?  Randler posted:My understanding is that Labours losses going to the SNP would still lead to Tory dominance in Britain due to the silly way your queen chooses who will become PM. Pretty sure SNP only runs for Scottish Parliament, freeing its voters to send in Labourites to Westminster if they so please.
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Nov 1, 2014 17:46
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I guess he could go for the comedy option and repeal the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act
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Nov 1, 2014 17:47
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Pretty sure SNP only runs for Scottish Parliament, freeing its voters to send in Labourites to Westminster if they so please. Aw. Oh well, maybe they're New Labour and will screw the British people just as hard.
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Nov 1, 2014 17:49
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Randler posted:My understanding is that Labours losses going to the SNP would still lead to Tory dominance in Britain due to the silly way your queen chooses who will become PM. No, it's a parliamentary democracy. The SNP is to the left of both main parties; if Labour lose all their Scotland seats to the SNP and Labour and the Tories both lack enough seats to form a majority government (which is how polls look now) based on the remaining seats, the SNP plays kingmaker; if them pulling a Party Quebecois with Labour is probably the farthest left government we can reasonably hope for. With that said, they've pledged to not vote on English issues at Westminster which is frothingly insane so 
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Nov 1, 2014 17:51
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What changed from the vote to now tho?
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Nov 1, 2014 17:54
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david cameron continued to be prime minister
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Nov 1, 2014 17:55
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Pretty sure SNP only runs for Scottish Parliament, freeing its voters to send in Labourites to Westminster if they so please. Nope, SNP runs for UK Parliament. There are 6 SNP MPs.
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Nov 1, 2014 17:56
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euphronius posted:What changed from the vote to now tho? all the parties went back on their devolution claims, within 24 hours of the vote being over
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Nov 1, 2014 17:58
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Nope, SNP runs for UK Parliament. There are 6 SNP MPs. Bah. The UK is even wackier than the US, and that's saying something. Y'all Brits need to federalize proper. Hire our folks as consultants, we can show you the ropes. 
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Nov 1, 2014 17:59
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Yeah, US Federalism is a great system, working well, that other countries should emulate.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:01
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Joementum posted:Yeah, US Federalism is a great system, working well, that other countries should emulate. At least some things do work better here than either in the UK or the EU. They would do well to learn from our Right now the UK has no Constitution and has a really wacky unevenly-devolved governing structure that is untenable.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:04
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CoolCab posted:No, it's a parliamentary democracy. The SNP is to the left of both main parties; if Labour lose all their Scotland seats to the SNP and Labour and the Tories both lack enough seats to form a majority government (which is how polls look now) based on the remaining seats, the SNP plays kingmaker; if them pulling a Party Quebecois with Labour is probably the farthest left government we can reasonably hope for. With that said, they've pledged to not vote on English issues at Westminster which is frothingly insane so That or a Tory/UKIP coalition after UKIP picks up all their targets. You will love Deputy Prime Minister Nigel Farage. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Nov 1, 2014 18:04
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Oh yeah, UKIP MPs is gonna be funny as heck.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:06
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Joementum posted:Yeah, US Federalism is a great system, working well, that other countries should emulate.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:07
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The UK is trying very hard to fight the European Convention on Human Rights so I don't think they want to take inspiration from the Us where some rights are even in the constitution.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:07
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Absurd Alhazred posted:At least some things do work better here than either in the UK or the EU. They would do well to learn from our we still have hereditary peers for some loving reason. our government is in part based on an assumption there's a "leadership" gene.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:07
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Randler posted:The UK is trying very hard to fight the European Convention on Human Rights so I don't think they want to take inspiration from the Us where some rights are even in the constitution. Kippers and Tories talk up the Magna Carta a lot, which given it was aimed at codifying the power and rights of extremely rich Baron seems about right.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:09
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also hey thread i'm really hungover i think halloween is kind of a dumb holiday but i'm always down to dress up and drink a lot so i'm embracing it. hope you all had a good time as well or played d&d in this thread or whatever. warszawa: i'll be watching that hbo movie tonight.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:11
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CoolCab posted:we still have hereditary peers for some loving reason. our government is in part based on an assumption there's a "leadership" gene.  Although to be fair, British Royalty are living proof of the dangers of inbreeding and the value of genetic diversity. 
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Nov 1, 2014 18:11
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CoolCab posted:we still have hereditary peers for some loving reason. our government is in part based on an assumption there's a "leadership" gene. 
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Nov 1, 2014 18:11
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Unless Jeb can trace his ancestors to the Sedwick family, I won't be impressed (enough to make Hope Leslie jokes)
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Nov 1, 2014 18:14
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But really,  at the House of Lords being a things that exists in 2014.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:17
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Joementum posted:But really, Hey, now, I am hoping to marry into peerage someday!  Don't kill the dream!
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Nov 1, 2014 18:23
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Jagchosis posted:What aspects of MIGF's persona are genuine? Far as I can tell, he definitely went to Washu, likes to gently caress Korean girls and really cares about ebola. beyond that it is a mystery Correction: Likes to gently caress women from every continent and has a personal and professional stake in the halting of the Ebola epidemic. Korean women are great bbq cooks. Irish and Israeli are where its at. I don't want my Ghanan prison project to lose data, damnit. And this whole Ebola issue threatens some of my sources of funding, damnit. GhostofJohnMuir posted:I was part of a mock debate on "Whether the US should take the initiative in international climate change negotiation," and I found myself channeling MIGF and arguing that it was in America's best interest to make sure that money is funneled into our national industry and no tariffs are put on our agricultural goods and I didn't trust the perfidious Russian and Chinese to lead the process. It was really effective, but it made me feel dirty afterwards. Its effective because, in their heart of hearts, the audience knew your words, if not your intent, rang true. E Absurd Alhazred posted:Hey, now, I am hoping to marry into peerage someday! I knew a princess one. She told me to check my privilege. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Hey, now, I am hoping to marry into peerage someday! can women even inherit the hereditary ones?
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Nov 1, 2014 18:25
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You can gay marry into a peerage now. Progress!
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Nov 1, 2014 18:27
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I can't help but expect Ed to gently caress up the election, best case scenario is he barely wins and becomes a British Hollande.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:31
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Joementum posted:Yeah, US Federalism is a great system, working well, that other countries should emulate. To be quite honest it does work better than the current UK mess. Federalize England now.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:32
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Badger of Basra posted:lol you dumb motherfuckers, that's what you get for believing david cameron YouGov is poo poo.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:34
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Ardennes posted:I can't help but expect Ed to gently caress up the election, best case scenario is he barely wins and becomes a British Hollande. hasn't his party already slipped hard in the polls to the point where they're neck and neck with UKIP and the Tories speaking of which I always wondered if UKIP was almost a parallel to Reform in Canada and if UKIP and the Tories would eventually merge to form the Regressive Conservative Party or something
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Nov 1, 2014 18:34
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:hasn't his party already slipped hard in the polls to the point where they're neck and neck with UKIP and the Tories If that were to happen, I see no scenario where the UK doesn't end up as a two-party system. Ya'll would finally have your own Republicans and Democrats, with reflective policies. (seriousanswer: UKIP isn't interested in power sharing, they're interested in power. They may be willing to coalition to get power, however, they wouldn't be absolute idiots like the LibDems and would bring down the coalition if anyone tried to gently caress with their core anti-immigrant and anti-nonwhite policies)
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My Imaginary GF posted:Irish and Israeli are where its at. Hey white boy, whatchu doin' in the Middle East? Hey white boy, come to chase our women like a beast? quote:I knew a princess one. She told me to check my privilege. That's because you need to be at least this privileged to date a princess. Yeesh, you know nothing, Rahm Emanuel.
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