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if wizards doesn't reprint Savage Punch with Surrak punching a dragon I'm going to be outrageously disappointed in their creative department
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So is the trick of the deck just being a heroic deck that gets heavily extra value from its heroic triggers via Ascendency, with the added potential bonus of going Retraction Helix, Springleaf for mana, bounce & recast springleaf, repeat until all your creatures are xyber huge, or am I missing another part?
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:if wizards doesn't reprint Savage Punch with Surrak punching a dragon I'm going to be outrageously disappointed in their creative department We talked about this before...though it may have been in the last thread? The next version will have a bear punching out a dragon. The final set will be a Dragon punching out a human (either honestly, or comically. Think more punting than punching?)
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Nov 2, 2014 22:04
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It's much more redundant than the four color version because it can utterly fail to combo out and still can punch your face in off a slow start. And none of the combo pieces are loving awful on their own unlike the green version. They certainly aren't the best cards in standard if they don't mesh together, but you can snag wins vs. slow opponents while drawing towards your better win.
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Nov 2, 2014 22:09
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:if wizards doesn't reprint Savage Punch with Surrak punching a dragon I'm going to be outrageously disappointed in their creative department Surrak isn't alive 1000 years in the past.
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TheKingofSprings posted:In a format where Thoughtseize is A Thing That Exists a fragile combo deck will most likely not be able to dominate. casting Thoughtseize against an aggro deck is not always the best thing you could do. seriously, this deck's real strength is it's ability to play either beatdown or combo kill at a moment's notice. This style of deck is much more along the lines of tempo twin in modern than an all-in combo deck
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Mikujin posted:Surrak isn't alive 1000 years in the past. I mean in the third set. But it looks like this has already been talked about so welp.
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:if wizards doesn't reprint Savage Punch with Surrak punching a dragon I'm going to be outrageously disappointed in their creative department  That's why bears have 4 power in this plane! They ran rampant after dragons went extinct, there are only a few humans that can punch them into submission.If there aren't any bears in the third set, I will take this as confirmation of my hypothesis about the ecology of Tarkir.
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Nov 2, 2014 22:25
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Mikujin posted:Surrak isn't alive 1000 years in the past. I thought the whole point of Dragonshifting Khans cards was to represent an alternate present.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I thought the whole point of Dragonshifting Khans cards was to represent an alternate present. They are, yes. Notice they even have the Khans of Tarkir expansion symbol.
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The new Ascendancy deck actually seems quite difficult to play well if you're not comboing off. Just look at all the turns Ivan played a land and just passed or chose to/chose not to chump block because he was thinking a turn ahead. The loot decisions alone are going to really screw you over if you don't know what you need. I feel like the people I see at FNM who are going to throw this deck together are going to fail horribly at playing it. Not to mention the approximately 9 billion triggers to keep track of. All of this is to say that Ivan is impressive as gently caress, and I hope to watch him piloting the deck again at other major events. qbert fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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Nov 2, 2014 22:48
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qbert posted:The new Ascendancy deck actually seems quite difficult to play well if you're not comboing off. Just look at all the turns Ivan played a land and just passed or chose to/chose not to chump block because he was thinking a turn ahead. Not only that but it requires a lot check listing for what's in your deck, chances of grabbing it, what sequence of moves gets you maximum value with a variety of uncertainties. The deck is fun to play, I've already been testing it, but it's not something you get overnight.
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Yeah I think the most impressive thing is he basically banged this together the night before the Open and was playing it this well. He was going super smooth for something with so many moving parts.
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qbert posted:All of this is to say that Ivan is impressive as gently caress, and I hope to watch him piloting the deck again at other major events.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:
And yet philosophers still can fight a bear on even terms, and at least take the bear down with them.
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Serperoth posted:And yet philosophers still can fight a bear on even terms, and at least take the bear down with them. Bears are more akin to a natural disaster on Tarkir; purely destructive, unconcerned by the survival of the individual so long as it widens the ecological niche for the species as a whole. Once bears have a true foothold on the plane, they will rapidly become the dominant life form. Innistrad is doomed once the bears work out how to consistently work in pairs (with a backup bear to sweep in once something's died).
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Nov 2, 2014 23:12
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This legacy deck from Gregory Hatch is insane, hahaha
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Pox on camera, and Cedric Phillips is his usual fun self. Only thing that would be better would be having Chapin instead of Sullivan on the spot, but nothing's ever perfect.
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That's an awesome wurm token... Edit: http://i.imgur.com/CKJ9nvG.jpg Here it is! Thisuck fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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Nov 2, 2014 23:41
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What bait does a fisherworm use?
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Sleep of Bronze posted:What bait does a fisherworm use? Humans.
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Gensuki posted:The final set will be a Dragon punching out a human (either honestly, or comically. Think more punting than punching?) I would pay a lot for a foil Savage Punt. Re: sideboard vs. Jeskai, I feel like Drown in Sorrow might do terrible things to it. It would kill the Crusaders and whatever tokens it manages to poop out, and if you're Abzan, everything you have lives. Also I generally hate the SCG creature collection, but the wurm's jaunty little hat always gets me to smile.
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Boxman posted:Re: sideboard vs. Jeskai, I feel like Drown in Sorrow might do terrible things to it. It would kill the Crusaders and whatever tokens it manages to poop out, and if you're Abzan, everything you have lives. I disagree. Jen clearly built his deck taking that card into account. It only takes a single instant to protect all his non-Crusader/token creatures against that card. Sure, you've killed his 1/1 and the tokens it made, but it's a situational board wipe at best.
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qbert posted:I disagree. Jen clearly built his deck taking that card into account. It only takes a single instant to protect all his non-Crusader/token creatures against that card. Sure, you've killed his 1/1 and the tokens it made, but it's a situational board wipe at best. Yeah. I think Cedric was overstating how useful Doomwake Giant was in the G/B match up. They saw him combo out with no board on turn 5 after dropping an ascendancy. The board wipes are just a hindrance since he can go off late game out of no where. I honestly think the sub sligh style decks would be best against it because they hit hard, fast, and can pressure him to chump block early game. It is obvious that durdly Courser decks have a bad match up against this thing due to how little their early walls matter.
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Thisuck posted:This legacy deck from Gregory Hatch is insane, hahaha What was he playing?
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Tinfins is so stupid, I love it.MiddleEastBeast posted:What was he playing? If it is the one I'm thinking off, it was from a highlight from march and it was a very unconventional u/w tempo list. deck list: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/developing-legacy/549310-mono-blue-martyr?comment=3 match: http://www.twitch.tv/scglive/b/513336808?t=1572m30s Bugsy fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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AlternateNu posted:Yeah. I think Cedric was overstating how useful Doomwake Giant was in the G/B match up. They saw him combo out with no board on turn 5 after dropping an ascendancy. The board wipes are just a hindrance since he can go off late game out of no where. I honestly think the sub sligh style decks would be best against it because they hit hard, fast, and can pressure him to chump block early game. It is obvious that durdly Courser decks have a bad match up against this thing due to how little their early walls matter. Uhh, no, sub sligh is probably really favorable for the Jeskai deck, they have no interaction and he plays cards like the 0/4 heroic dude, the 1/2 heroic dude, seeker of the way (which is busted vs sligh strategies), and akroan crusader. His worst match up is abzan, without a doubt. Thoughtseize + removal is great, especially when you can also have cards like utter end to make the matchup even more lopsided. Ascendancy is a meta-meta deck; it's super good versus G/B constellation/devotion and sub sligh, and quite poor versus everything else.
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Bugsy posted:Tinfins is so stupid, I love it. It's always nice to see Ninja of the Deep Hours. EDIT: Is that a loving Divert in the sideboard? That's gotta be a complete backbreaker if they don't see it coming. Which they won't. Froghammer fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 02:08
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It's been said a million times, but holy poo poo are all these GP coverages littered w/ technical issues. Never mind the cell phone grade cameras.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Not any kind of stuff. Beside the cost isn't hybrid green, it's hybrid blue and red, both of which do control-changing.
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Well this is a pretty wonky T8 in the SCG Legacy Open. Storm, Lands, miracles, two flavors of delver, dredge and motherfucking goblins.
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Alaan posted:Well this is a pretty wonky T8 in the SCG Legacy Open. Storm, Lands, miracles, two flavors of delver, dredge and motherfucking goblins. Isn't it awesome! 
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Alaan posted:Well this is a pretty wonky T8 in the SCG Legacy Open. Storm, Lands, miracles, two flavors of delver, dredge and motherfucking goblins. This is your weekly reminder that legacy owns.
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Is it related to the shakeup from Cruise?
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Goblin got bopped 2-0 by Jeskai Delver  Edit: it was off stream Thisuck fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Alaan posted:Well this is a pretty wonky T8 in the SCG Legacy Open. Storm, Lands, miracles, two flavors of delver, dredge and motherfucking goblins.
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It seems that it has slowed down the format a bit. People are going for more long term power off Cruise than speed. That might reverse a bit as people decide where the balance of feeding Cruse vs. just killing your opponent is.
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I guess goblins does look pretty good when people stop playing TNN.
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