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pentyne posted:Doesn't every harem series always have the MC be focused on a docile, kind of quiet semi-subservient traditional Japanese girl while the other options are mixed Japanese, aggressive, or really quirky in some way? Kind of, though you can probably blame that on visual novels constantly having the boring childhood friend as the "main" heroine which ended up influencing manga and anime over time. The genre itself kind of didn't do that initially considering Urusei Yatsura and Ramna 1/2 were arguably the original harem series, and obviously those two series had very proactive heroines, and you can see their influence on stuff like Tenchi Muyo, Love Hina, and Truthism.
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Tarezax posted:Keitaro in Love Hina was pretty fixed on Naru from the start, wasn't he? I haven't really read much harem manga, so that's my only reference. Or so he thought. Just like way too many others its the "I must find and fall in love with the girl I made the childhood promise to yet don't know who it is" at the expense of ignoring other interesting girls and suddenly conflicted when it seems like the assumed girl may not actually be the right one.
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pentyne posted:Doesn't every harem series always have the MC be focused on a docile, kind of quiet semi-subservient traditional Japanese girl while the other options are mixed Japanese, aggressive, or really quirky in some way? Sometimes, yeah. The goal is, as with every diverse cast, to have enough characters that there's always someone to appeal to you, the reader, whoever you might be, and that each character will get enough screen time that you'll keep reading through issues/watching episodes that aren't about the characters you like best. Hence why the main character is usually very bland, to make it easy to insert yourself into their role, and all the secondary character play to type. In harem stories, the protagonist doesn't have to end up with the quiet shy girl, but it's not unusual. In Ai Yori Aoshi it did, to the surprise of no one. In To Love Ru, it's probably not going to happen because of what went down between the artist and his ex-wife. In Ichigo 100%, it didn't happen which set the bar for interesting-yet-somehow-traditional endings to harem manga. But most often, is it the first girl he meets, a tradition laid down since Urusei Yatsura. This kind of reading also assumes that the ending is the point, rather than ongoing hijinks and confusions, watching the author contort themselves trying to see if they can keep the stack of glasses from crashing to the ground. Toph Bei Fong fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Terper posted:You'd think so, but the truth is... Whoa, thanks for linking this. I'm one chapter in and already on board.
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Oct 25, 2014 18:33
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Oct 25, 2014 21:52
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I'll be damned. 
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Spoilers Below posted:Perfectly valid argument about Harem / Rom-Com Manga series. I just hope that, when the endgame comes, people understand that Marika > everyone else. (maybe Seishirou on 2ND) vvvv e: They're gonna end up together. It's a no-brainer. Besides being consistently funny, both had dynamite VA's in the anime. Yuuki Kaji's was basically perfectly cast as Shuu. That laughter.  vvvv
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Oct 25, 2014 23:33
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Wark Say posted:I just hope that, when the endgame comes, people understand that Marika > everyone else. (maybe Seishirou on 2ND) No arguments here. A pure heart and a direct intention are best! Though I'll confess I'm also interested in how the Shū/Ruri situation shakes out.
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Spoilers Below posted:No arguments here. A pure heart and a direct intention are best! I'm *more* interested in that than any of the main harem links. I think it's the decline of Raku's personality that's bugging me. Maybe he just needs some actual screen time where he's being awesome *by himself*.
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Oct 26, 2014 04:40
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I mean, is it really that much of a stretch that Raku just wants to be with a non-psychotic girl?
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Tae posted:I mean, is it really that much of a stretch that Raku just wants to be with a non-psychotic girl? It's really not, but that still leaves him with 2 options, Onedera (he can open a sweets shop with her, happily married life) or Yui (marry a head of a major mafia family, continue the criminal empire)
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pentyne posted:It's really not, but that still leaves him with 2 options, Onedera (he can open a sweets shop with her, happily married life) or Yui (marry a head of a major mafia family, continue the criminal empire)  see:Spoilers Below posted:No arguments here. A pure heart and a direct intention are best!
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http://www.mangatown.com/manga/nisekoi_komi_naoshi/c145/ Oh, Shuu, you scamp...
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Shuu rules and the I Love Marika headband is gang tag/banner/whatever-its-called worthy.
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A person you like. Ahahahaha Shu does not mess around.
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Nov 3, 2014 21:41
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The aggressive secondary cast of Nisekoi is so delightful. Much like the audience, they will not tolerate any of this mealy mouthed "will they-won't they, who will he choose?" crap. I also just started the anime, and I'm enjoying it a lot. Different style than the manga, but quite well executed. Like a souped up, funnier, Kare/Kano.
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Nov 3, 2014 21:47
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Can't harem manga just split into parallel endings, with several chapters dedicated to each girl's what-if? Why can't they all win, man?
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resurgam40 posted:http://www.mangatown.com/manga/nisekoi_komi_naoshi/c145/ Ahahah, Onodera stabbed Shuu in the mouth with a sandwich and that is probably more deadly than the knife in his forehead.
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Space Flower posted:Can't harem manga just split into parallel endings, with several chapters dedicated to each girl's what-if? I read one manga that did that, the only problem was the original story was such aggressive poo poo that I didn't really enjoy it as much as I wanted to.
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Space Flower posted:Can't harem manga just split into parallel endings, with several chapters dedicated to each girl's what-if? The manga Kimi no Iru Machi actually did this: it had the regular ending, but then had several bonus chapters showing 'what if?' for all of the others. They were all quite short, but it was a nice surprise and I'd like to see if others do it as well.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:29
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I feel like Yui chapters are only just above Onodera chapters. 
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Yeah... We've only had a couple, so I'm giving her some leeway, but Yui seems to be just as boring without anybody else to bounce off of as Onodera.
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Nov 12, 2014 04:52
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"Hey poo poo kid, I will give you a warning." is a masterful way to begin a conversation.
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Irisize posted:Yeah... We've only had a couple, so I'm giving her some leeway, but Yui seems to be just as boring without anybody else to bounce off of as Onodera. Her chapters are better because Raku reacts in fun ways at least. Yui doesn't do much alone.
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http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Nise-Koi/Ch-148--Successor?id=213626 Yep, definitely relies on other characters. The chibi ninja's amusing on a Ruri/Shuu level, I will admit.
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Nov 22, 2014 11:54
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Ie is like Ruri/Shuu but with power and influence.
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Nov 22, 2014 15:17
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Okay yeah, Ie is making this relationship start to pop.
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I really like her complete disrespect towards Raku as well. Constantly referring to him as 'poo poo kid' and 'the brat' while she's trying to stitch him up with her boss
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HiveCommander posted:I really like her complete disrespect towards Raku as well. Constantly referring to him as 'poo poo kid' and 'the brat' while she's trying to stitch him up with her boss Isn't it a guy?
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Ie looks like a girl, but we are talking about something made in Japan after all 
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Ie prounounced Xe
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The most recent chapter was actually really good.
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Grouchio posted:The most recent chapter was actually really good. That's what happens when you prominently make it about good characters (Chitoge and Tsugumi) instead of bad ones (Yui)
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Well yeah, the chapter was actually an interesting look into Tsugumi's character rather than "look at how waifu Onodera is."
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I love how Raku is impressed as a fellow housewife.
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BlitzBlast posted:I love how Raku is impressed as a fellow housewife. The non-main harem members are usually always portrayed as clearly superior to the main girl, but in this case it was more of a "this girl is better then me!" which was comedy gold.
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Man, I was actually kinda looking forward to a chapter on "Raku and some random guys" too.
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Not gonna lie. The array of  faces made this chapter great for a short while.
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Hey you never know, maybe this time Onodera will actually be interest- ahahahaha I can't finish that.
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I was with this chapter right up until the last few pages. More panels of Raku and Onodera being insufferably awkward towards each other, how fun!
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