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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:the fact that nobody understands the language well enough to do crazy things with it is a feature the thing is oop isn't really crazy obscure poo poo for assholes, it's essential for a lot of people. so you end up with developers poorly hacking the language to do some kind of class-based oop javascript is a poorly designed language and it's not by chance that it has so many transcompilers, people want to get out of it
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Nov 4, 2014 14:08
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the most publicised "plus" of javascript is people making new languages of it, so yeah
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Nov 4, 2014 15:00
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Bloody posted:thats never stopped anybody in c++ brb metaprogramming a templating language to properly respond to this post
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Nov 4, 2014 16:06
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write up a shitposting DSL tia
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Nov 4, 2014 16:23
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/me opens up boost spirit documentation *runs away screaming*
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Nov 4, 2014 16:26
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i guess theres nothing wrong with spirit per se but it enables so many terrible ideas
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Nov 4, 2014 16:27
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i like big boost and i cant lie
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Nov 4, 2014 17:22
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hobbesmaster posted:i guess theres nothing wrong with spirit per se but it enables so many terrible ideas have you ever tried compiling even the tiniest c++ toy program that uses spirit? its brutal i am not sure how much of that is the compiler's fault but that stuff takes forever to compile even with SSDs
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Nov 4, 2014 19:25
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syntaxrigger posted:same I'm a freelancer but I've been thinking about this a bit, and the kind of jobs I want to do. I started up as a PSD chopper, but really my focus is on being a front end developer for mobile web apps, and basically that's what I do now. Laugh if you want cause I'm a terrible web dev, but I'm a terrible web dev seemingly in demand.  Anyway my MO is to take jobs that scare me, that have big quotes, whether its an interesting technical problem that furthers my area of expertise, namely thick front end web apps, or just some intense clients with exacting standards. Either way, I think the jobs you take should make you a little bit nervous. The fear is there because you know you're capable but you might gently caress it up. Being scared of failure can produce your best work as long as you don't be stupid. (agree to unrealistic deadlines, mismanage clients, etc) So for me, its to seek out hard work and ignore easy money churns, it was hard to do for a while because I have to support my family, but its paid off so far. Might not be rolling in cash but I'm turning into the developer I want to be whilst not starving so hooray I guess.
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Nov 4, 2014 21:25
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:have you ever tried compiling even the tiniest c++ toy program that uses spirit? its brutal well, spirit is a huge abuse of the c++ language so it should not be unexpected
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Nov 4, 2014 21:26
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hobbesmaster posted:/me opens up boost spirit documentation I tried to understand the BGL once but it was like staring into the sun
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Nov 4, 2014 22:56
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how bad is VBA anyway a guy I know wants me to do Something in it for his business
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Nov 4, 2014 23:46
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Maluco Marinero posted:I'm a freelancer but I've been thinking about this a bit, and the kind of jobs I want to do. I started up as a PSD chopper, but really my focus is on being a front end developer for mobile web apps, and basically that's what I do now. Laugh if you want cause I'm a terrible web dev, but I'm a terrible web dev seemingly in demand. im the software developer capable of quoting realistic deadlines
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Nov 4, 2014 23:50
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Luigi Thirty posted:how bad is VBA anyway a guy I know wants me to do Something in it for his business bad
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Nov 4, 2014 23:51
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Amazon wants to give me a phone interview Friday. Just got the study guide email from a very nice amazonian. Is this going to be one of those "gently caress this!" interviews or do I have a chance in hell? I already have an offer for a very good salary where I am and I'm waiting on the SF place, so this is largely to see if I can do it. So, wtf do they tend to do? And how far do you have to go to even be considered?
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Nov 5, 2014 00:21
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Luigi Thirty posted:how bad is VBA anyway a guy I know wants me to do Something in it for his business just one tiny lil example of how loving bad VBA is
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Nov 5, 2014 00:25
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all of the office api is horrific and using vba means you have to deal with a bad language as well.
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Nov 5, 2014 00:26
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aaaaaaaaaaaag well he is the owner of a cardiology practice so I could probably squeeze a lot of cash out of him as hazard pay
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Nov 5, 2014 00:27
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gently caress them posted:Amazon wants to give me a phone interview Friday. Just got the study guide email from a very nice amazonian. get a hands free headset and pleasure yourself throughout the interview
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Nov 5, 2014 00:30
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Shaggar posted:all of the office api is horrific and using vba means you have to deal with a bad language as well.
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Nov 5, 2014 00:32
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if you want to edit/create documents the openxml sdk is very good. it doesn't do display, though
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Nov 5, 2014 00:33
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Bloody posted:im the software developer capable of quoting realistic deadlines There's ballpark and there's stupid razor thin, and that's all part of the negotiation process.
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Nov 5, 2014 00:33
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St Evan Echoes posted:is there a good c# lib for interacting with word docs and maybe spreadsheets without using the office api? yeah it's called Console.WriteLine because gently caress office
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Nov 5, 2014 00:33
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St Evan Echoes posted:is there a good c# lib for interacting with word docs and maybe spreadsheets without using the office api? http://www.officewriter.com/ exists i have no idea if it is good or poo poo and it is probably expensive
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Nov 5, 2014 00:52
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Bloody posted:http://www.officewriter.com/ exists i have no idea if it is good or poo poo and it is probably expensive
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Nov 5, 2014 01:11
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BONGHITZ posted:get a hands free headset and pleasure yourself throughout the interview Literally everyone I talk to about this says "Do not work for amazon." How the gently caress are they that bad?
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Nov 5, 2014 01:15
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gently caress them posted:Literally everyone I talk to about this says "Do not work for amazon." somebody posted average employee tenure numbers recently. google was second-to-last with 1.1 years; amazon was 1
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Nov 5, 2014 01:16
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prefect posted:somebody posted average employee tenure numbers recently. google was second-to-last with 1.1 years; amazon was 1 I had a recruiter in Seattle say "if you get flown out by amazon I'll get you some interviews; they'll move you out." It's like amazon is either a trap for ambitious fresh grads or Seattle's gatekeeper for out of state programmers.
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Nov 5, 2014 01:18
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I've heard amazon is bad and the manager I had that used to work there was awful
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Nov 5, 2014 04:58
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I've heard very polarized opinions about working for Amazon. some people say it's literal hell on earth, and some people say it's awesome. I interpret this as it being very dependent on the team you get placed with. Seattle owns though, and there's so many tech jobs you'll probably get one by accident at some point.
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Nov 5, 2014 05:22
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Plastic Snake posted:I've heard very polarized opinions about working for Amazon. some people say it's literal hell on earth, and some people say it's awesome. or the more obvious: awful ppl like it
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Nov 5, 2014 05:48
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theadder posted:or the more obvious: awful ppl like it i have a friend who i strongly suspect has an undiagnosed personality disorder who loves working at epic
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Nov 5, 2014 05:53
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im not naming names but there is a shortlist in the industry of "who you don't want to work for" and it's not terribly difficult to come up with it if you piece together things
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Nov 5, 2014 05:56
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of course people still will go to them out of desperation or a big offer, but they generally don't last unless they just happen to deal well with the various horrible aspects
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Nov 5, 2014 05:57
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name names
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Nov 5, 2014 05:58
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save lives
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Nov 5, 2014 05:59
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sorry you don't poop in your own yard when there are other yards that are far more guilt free to poop in
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Nov 5, 2014 06:00
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Sniep posted:im not naming names but there is a shortlist in the industry of "who you don't want to work for" and it's not terribly difficult to come up with it if you piece together things - Anyone running my most recent company
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fart simpson posted:i have a friend who i strongly suspect has an undiagnosed personality disorder who loves working at epic game studio or the one who does medical software? either way lol
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