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redreader posted:One of the comments I read on the liccardo (sp) article said something like: Mercury went bankrupt and is now the mouthpiece of whoever bailed them out. I know this was a while back, but I just came across the Mercury-News's endorsements, which more or less tell the tale as to whether it's a rag/mouthpiece, including endorsements for Khanna, Peterson for Secretary of State (argument: Debra Brown did little as a Democrat, so we should give it to a Republican), Tuck for Superintendent (argument: can't let those teachers unions win!), Ashley Swearingen for Controller (argument: she's independent and would never have won the Republican primary because of it so she must be right for the job!) Granted, it's hardly R down the board, but it does seem like it prefers to take the easy D picks (Brown, Newsom, Harris), rather than the harder ones. EDIT: Laughing at the opponent to the incumbent member of the Santa Clara County Board of Education (occupation: parent). On votersedge.org, under endorsements, he proudly claims "Endorsements equal strings. I am not anyone's puppet." ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Tuck's another one of those wankers besides Khanna who brags about how he's "endorsed by all the major newspapers [statewide]". Earlier I heard like three Tuck ads compared to one Torlakson ad on the radio, to and from campus via bus.ComradeCosmobot posted:Tuck/Torlakson has been forecasted to be one of the nail-biter races. Field in September showed it close, but with many undecided and Tuck leading. God loving dammit. Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 05:04
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Tuck isn't going to win is he? I already convinced like 5 people to vote for Torlakson by saying Tuck was a union busting charter school rear end in a top hat, I did my part.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:06
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Shear Modulus posted:Tuck isn't going to win is he? Tuck/Torlakson has been forecasted to be one of the nail-biter races. Field in September showed it close, but with many undecided and Tuck leading.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:12
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Looks like the California Green Party finally posted their reasoning for their positions on the propositions. Here's the breakdown:
My positions are pretty close:
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Nov 4, 2014 06:45
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My local Congressional race pretty quickly turned into vicious mud-slinging. The Republican challenger seems to be extremely concerned that the incumbent  spends money on himself. It's all frustratingly stupid.
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Nov 4, 2014 07:25
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I found a pretty useful resource for choosing how to vote for appellate judges since I don't know poo poo about any of them. This guy is a conservative maniac who is deathly afraid of judicial activists. "Legislating from the bench, these judges destroy or weaken constitutional protection, votes by the people, family values, marriage, religious liberty and economic freedom." He's posted a recommendation for every judicial race in the state; simply vote the exact opposite of his recommendation. http://www.judgevoterguide.com/
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Nov 4, 2014 08:49
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CPColin posted:Looks like the California Green Party finally posted their reasoning for their positions on the propositions. Here's the breakdown: My picks after a few hours of research on Monday night...
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Nov 4, 2014 09:21
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silence_kit posted:Yeah. I don't think that what I am saying is controversial at all. More people probably have the intellectual ability to be doctors than to be mathematicians at universities doing math research. Note that I am not saying that math research is more important to society than medicine. Most people, including me, think that the opposite is obviously true. Intelligence =! how good you are at math.
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Nov 4, 2014 09:40
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RedQueen posted:My picks after a few hours of research on Monday night... This one's a referendum, so a no vote is a vote to overturn the legislative process. If that's your intention, then so be it. Personally, I find it hard to give a poo poo about this issue either way, so I chose to vote yes and trust the process.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:42
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coronaball posted:I found a pretty useful resource for choosing how to vote for appellate judges since I don't know poo poo about any of them. This guy is a conservative maniac who is deathly afraid of judicial activists. "Legislating from the bench, these judges destroy or weaken constitutional protection, votes by the people, family values, marriage, religious liberty and economic freedom." He's posted a recommendation for every judicial race in the state; simply vote the exact opposite of his recommendation. I've been a little more lenient in my planned votes if only because my default preference is to keep, barring obvious bias in rulings. EDIT: Also, his basis seems to mostly be "Did a Republican originally nominate the justice?" which is a debatable criterion to determine how awful a justice is. Of the candidates I can vote on, his YES votes are all Deukmejian and Wilson nominees. His NO votes are Brown nominees. It also would explain why he didn't take a stance on the only race I can vote on that has no governor nominees: Diane Ritchie vs. Matthew Harris (also because that race is a Superior Court where Constitutional law doesn't factor as strongly) ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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coronaball posted:I found a pretty useful resource for choosing how to vote for appellate judges since I don't know poo poo about any of them. This guy is a conservative maniac who is deathly afraid of judicial activists. "Legislating from the bench, these judges destroy or weaken constitutional protection, votes by the people, family values, marriage, religious liberty and economic freedom." He's posted a recommendation for every judicial race in the state; simply vote the exact opposite of his recommendation. I did this exact same thing and came to tell yall similarly. This guy's methods are suspect and seemed to be basically based on partisan bias, so having little other information I just used his 'guide' as a negative mold. Thanks! ^^Ah, yes. doug fuckey fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 18:34
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I'm not sure the Merc was ever bailed out, their parent company Knight Ridder was bought out by the McClatchy Group. However the Merc was a worthless rag before that, anyways.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:53
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I've been hearing some talk the last few days about how even though the sentiment behind prop 45 is good, it's actually better to vote No because there's a bunch of unresolved issues with how the Insurance Commissioner will interact with Covered CA and their rate negotiations. Is there any merit to this claim? I already voted Yes because gently caress insurance companies forever, but I'm curious.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:22
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I've been hearing some talk the last few days about how even though the sentiment behind prop 45 is good, it's actually better to vote No because there's a bunch of unresolved issues with how the Insurance Commissioner will interact with Covered CA and their rate negotiations. Is there any merit to this claim? I already voted Yes because gently caress insurance companies forever, but I'm curious. It's bullshit, all that's true is that insurance commissioner gets to rubber-stamp Covered CA's negotiated rates instead of not needing to touch them. Theoretically the commissioner could reject the rates Covered CA gets out of the insurance companies but that would only bring even more pressure to keep rates down.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:28
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Shear Modulus posted:Tuck isn't going to win is he? I had no idea about this race until a few days ago when I heard a Tuck radio commercial featuring a bunch of kids reading from a script about how the big nasty teachers are mean to us and we want a choice. Instantly thought, "Well, I'll vote vote for whoever isn't that guy." Also voted for the guy who was running for health district and whose opponents decided to put up a sign saying "KILLS BABIES" Hope he wins, gently caress babies they suck.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:31
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Seriously though where have Torlakson's ads been? It was literally only yesterday afternoon and early this morning when I've heard ads from him against Tuck, whereas Tuck's been inundiating the airwaves for weeks by now.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:33
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I voted yes for every proposition.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:36
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Seriously though where have Torlakson's ads been? It was literally only yesterday afternoon and early this morning when I've heard ads from him against Tuck, whereas Tuck's been inundiating the airwaves for weeks by now. Tuck's a loaded ex-Wall Street guy, I imagine he's bringing in way more money than Torlakson can match. I don't listen to the radio, but I imagine his penetration his pretty drat heavy because I happened to hear an ad a week or two ago as I walked by a car repair garage with the radio blaring. I've gotten a few Torlakson mailers though. No Tuck mailers from what I can recall. e: Papercut posted:I saw multiple Torlakson ads during the World Series. Ah yeah, forgot about those. They were kind of drowned out in my memory by the fuckton of anti 45 and 46 ads.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Seriously though where have Torlakson's ads been? It was literally only yesterday afternoon and early this morning when I've heard ads from him against Tuck, whereas Tuck's been inundiating the airwaves for weeks by now. I saw multiple Torlakson ads during the World Series. San Francisco is hilariously swamped with people holding "No on E" signs today. There has probably been more spent by the no campaign on that measure than on the rest of the city elections combined, it's ridiculous.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:36
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Then again my school is in Orange County, so Tuck probably figures he can get great ROI putting up a ton of ads here (for reference I'm also getting a fair few Kashkari ads)
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Nov 4, 2014 20:38
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I can't tell what I should be voting for on all these city level local measures, so I've just been reading the sample ballot/voter information pamphlet and am planning on voting the opposite of whoever sounds like the biggest rear end in a top hat fucker on the arguments. I hope this isn't a bad strategy.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:56
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Lemming posted:I can't tell what I should be voting for on all these city level local measures, so I've just been reading the sample ballot/voter information pamphlet and am planning on voting the opposite of whoever sounds like the biggest rear end in a top hat fucker on the arguments. I hope this isn't a bad strategy. "Endorsed by Chamber of Commerce? I'll just vote the other way then, thanks." Cynical voting is the best voting.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:58
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Seriously though where have Torlakson's ads been? It was literally only yesterday afternoon and early this morning when I've heard ads from him against Tuck, whereas Tuck's been inundiating the airwaves for weeks by now. Teachers unions or charter school supporters. Who do you think has more money?
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I went to vote in person but ended up filling out a provisional ballot anyway, because I went to the wrong polling place. Didn't have time to go to my actual one, since my lunch was almost over. In my defense though, there are easily ten different Chinese churches within a square mile of my house, and all of them are polling places.  Also man are the ballots in my new district stupid. It has half completed arrows to each choice, and you have to draw a small, thin line to complete the arrow pointing to your choice. This couldn't be easily misinterpreted at all.  Edit: Also I'm really worried now that Murray is going to win our house seat, because he's listed as a democrat and is first on the ballot before Zoe. Hopefully enough people actually read instead of blindly picking the first democrat they see.
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Sydin posted:Also man are the ballots in my new district stupid. It has half completed arrows to each choice, and you have to draw a small, thin line to complete the arrow pointing to your choice. This couldn't be easily misinterpreted at all. Same here. Hope you didn't think to make the arrow the same thickness as the head! Sydin posted:Edit: Also I'm really worried now that Murray is going to win our house seat, because he's listed as a democrat and is first on the ballot before Zoe. Hopefully enough people actually read instead of blindly picking the first democrat they see. Honda also has this disadvantage (vs. Khanna). We'll see how it pans out.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Same here. Hope you didn't think to make the arrow the same thickness as the head! Well poo poo, that's exactly what I did. Don't tell me that actually matters!
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VikingofRock posted:Well poo poo, that's exactly what I did. Don't tell me that actually matters! It may! (I don't know how the machines that tabulate those sheets work to know for sure)
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Nov 5, 2014 00:22
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ComradeCosmobot posted:It may! (I don't know how the machines that tabulate those sheets work to know for sure) So you're just making stuff up? The simplest implementation for these would be to just look for a certain amount of non-white space between the sides of the arrow, having too much black wouldn't do anything.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:It is amazing that it is legal to just outright lie to get people to vote for your prop/measure. I just got a flyer in the mail that says "Vote yes on Measure L" for Riverside. I hope that piece of poo poo measure goes down in flames. For those who aren't in the area there's a huge expanse of protected open land (in red) that runs along the Santa Ana River in Riverside. It's a great open area to get away from the endless suburbs and is used by Riverside, Corona, Jurupa Valley and Eastvale as open area and also the nearby horse communities of Norco and Mira Loma for riding. The nearby La Sierra hills (in blue) are a hilly area with lots of trails and views of the Inland Empire, not too suitable for horseback riding though.  What Measure L does is take that giant open area of land give the green light for a Las Vegas developer to build up to 1900 houses on it. As a consolation it will take a small portion of the hills and make them "permanent open space" because you can't build houses on them anyways. They're framing the measure as "protecting open lands" where is really just opens up 650 acres of land open to more lovely tract housing. It also has no provisions for opening up any new roads or anything to the development so you have 1900 new homes traveling down 2 lane roads and a few dirt ones. It's a giant cluster gently caress that would destroy one of the last great open lands in the area. FCKGW fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Just an FYI in case you didn't mistype, but that circle is red and not yellow.
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Papercut posted:So you're just making stuff up? The simplest implementation for these would be to just look for a certain amount of non-white space between the sides of the arrow, having too much black wouldn't do anything. If I recall correctly, the instructions explicitly identify a "thick line" as one of the wrong ways to cast your ballot, but the thick line used as an example is thicker than the thickness of the arrow. Hence my uncertainty.
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So I did some googling, trying to figure out how best to vote on the propositions today being a liberal minded person. This is what I came away with: Prop 1 - No (Yes support is funded by horrible people) Prop 2 - Yes (Rainy day fund for state. Sure, why not?) Prop 45 - Yes (Forces insurance companies to publicly post rates) Prop 46 - No (Sounds like you should vote Yes on the surface if you're a liberal, but there's a reason the ACLU and Planned Parenthood are against it, so I'm voting No) Prop 47 - Yes (ACLU strongly supports) Prop 48 - Yes (see goon response below) Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Dahbadu posted:So I did some googling, trying to figure out how best to vote on the propositions today being a liberal minded person. This is what I came away with: Pete says vote YES on everything and he does it in long-form poetry.
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A vote of no on 48 means you would rather have a casino built on protected wetlands than be built near a freeway.
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Zeitgueist posted:Pete says vote YES on everything and he does it in long-form poetry. I never heard of this Pete guy before. What's his deal (besides having a website where he advocates positions on Props)?
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Nov 5, 2014 02:55
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I'm pretty sure Tuck is going to win, at least if his ability to snooker otherwise cool celebrities is any indication.
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I voted yes on everything except Prop 46. I had to do a provisional ballot in SB because my mail-in ballot never arrived for LA. Those things usually arrive a few days/weeks earlier, right? Well, the mail just arrived and guess what? My ballot is here!
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FCKGW posted:I hope that piece of poo poo measure goes down in flames. Where the blue and red circles intersect is where I lived for 20 years, that was a sweet neighborhood. I always played in both of the circles growing up, and that small road that goes up there is a major artery that is constantly getting worse year by year. And the loving ballot name is "Protect the lands" or some poo poo like that written on the ballot, any uniformed rear end in a top hat will see that and vote for it.
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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