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Spinning Blades LV4 and Brief Invincibility LV4 (or 3, if you're at 20 rather than 21) is The Best Option, frankly.
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I tend to go with the gradual recovery instead of the instant one, it's more efficient I think and I often end the run with spares.
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Nahxela posted:http://youtu.be/iXDYc6JtCts?t=1m29s i think you mean #goonsmash
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I need mix up my Falcon game. I got tired of For Glory so I've been playing people via http://www.smashladder.com/netplay -- which is great since they go by a tournament format for the ladder and gets away from strictly omega stages. I had a solid 3-4 straight losses last night since starting it. On one hand most matches were really close which is nice! On the other hand I got trounced by a hilariously campy ROB player who played the disc + laser + spacing game really well. That was mildly frustrating. I also hit another Falcon player on For Glory when I figured I'd cool down and hopefully stomp anyone. They didn't strike me as a better player but they just read every approach and attack I had and crushed me. Pretty demoralizing. Any Falcon tips on handling either scenario? (Falcon dittos. campy players, etc.)
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Does Zelda's teleport have a tell, like Greninja's shadow?
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PenguinBob posted:Does Zelda's teleport have a tell, like Greninja's shadow? If you tap Zelda's portrait on the touch screen, the rainbow bracket follows her teleport. This works for EVERYTHING, and is effectively a 3DS-specific nerf to teleporting characters.
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Echo Chamber posted:No comments on the Duck Hunt trailer? It was funny.
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Like Shulk and Bowser Jr. it was something that would have been absolutely amazing if we didn't already know they were in it. It was still super rad and cute though 
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"This Commander Video trophy would have been a Super Meat Boy trophy if they had bothered to release it on one of our systems like they originally planned."
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http://youtu.be/6t5DetuBMOY They also updated the site for Duck Hunt and Jigglypuff. http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/secret10.html http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/secret11.html
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Echo Chamber posted:No comments on the Duck Hunt trailer? Game not compatible with Zapper.
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Echo Chamber posted:http://youtu.be/6t5DetuBMOY 
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The best pic so far. The others don't even compare! 
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This would stand out as the worst kiss in Captain Falcon's life.
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mabels big day posted:Look at his rear end. Captain Falcon's perfect body is the best part of Smash Bros
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mabels big day posted:Look at his rear end. It's so beautiful, it's a shame jigglypuff is so tsundere.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Where does Larry stand in the hierarchy? I play Larry. I hope Larry is a good choice as well because that's the one I play, Larry Koopa. This was from like six pages ago and like a week ago but I want to make sure everyone knows this is wrong and Larry Koopa is the worst turtle that's ever been. gently caress Larry Koopa. If you like Larry Koopa you are a piece of poo poo. gently caress you, koopa. Edit: gently caress LARRY KOOPA Edit 2: gently caress yooooooooooou loving poo poo turtle for babies mdct fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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I'm trying to learn Lucario, but I've been having some trouble. I think some habits I've formed with DeDeDe are poorly transferring to Lucario. For example I love DeDeDe's down tilt but Lucario's seems to suck. Anyone have some Lucario tips for me?
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Lame Devil posted:I'm trying to learn Lucario, but I've been having some trouble. I think some habits I've formed with DeDeDe are poorly transferring to Lucario. For example I love DeDeDe's down tilt but Lucario's seems to suck. Get hit a bunch and then use your buff powers to KO people while they're at like 30%
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Lame Devil posted:I'm trying to learn Lucario, but I've been having some trouble. I think some habits I've formed with DeDeDe are poorly transferring to Lucario. For example I love DeDeDe's down tilt but Lucario's seems to suck. Blow. Yourself up. With Smart Bombs.
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Does anyone have a link to that Ike who did really well in a tournament a few days ago? I want watch video
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Watching all the content that is in the Wii U version and not in the 3DS makes me think the 3DS version is a garbage game made for garbage people. I mean just listen to that music look at those stages graphics so crisp
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Kelp Plankton posted:I liked that there was a Duck Hunt stage shown briefly, we hadn't seen that yet at all.  that is just so rad, I was super happy to see that trailer come finally.Echo Chamber posted:http://youtu.be/6t5DetuBMOY Someone cared out there  also the loving art poster for Duck Hunt is so awesome, even the freaking Quality Sticker is fantastic.
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Lame Devil posted:I'm trying to learn Lucario, but I've been having some trouble. I think some habits I've formed with DeDeDe are poorly transferring to Lucario. For example I love DeDeDe's down tilt but Lucario's seems to suck. mabels big day posted:Blow. But in all seriousness, Lucario has been my best character so far, so I'll share some of what I know. Lucario doesn't have the strongest ground game; most of his moves are fairly slow, especially his smash attacks. His aerial game is very strong, however, so you want your opponent to be in the air as much as you can. His grab is generally average, but his pivot grab has really crazy range, and his up throw can reliably connect into anything you want. One of my favourites is up throw > up air > double jump > up air. His neutral air may seem pretty bad, but it cancels very fast when he hits the ground; use it less to attack your opponent and more to pressure him into shielding or dodging, and you can follow up accordingly because there's just so little lag on it. His uptilt, the overhead leg sweep, is very fast and hits on both sides of him, making it a great panic button if you're being pressured or surrounded. Lucario basically isn't character until he's at about 60%. Before then, his strongest attack (fully charged up smash) does only 17% (for comparison, Mario's up smash does 14% uncharged). This isn't necessarily a totally bad thing, because while your attacks don't do much damage and don't have much knockback, they can string into each other very well. You might find it disheartening if you manage to land twelve to fourteen hits and find you've only done 30% damage, though. But when you start taking damage is when options start coming up for you. Attacks hit harder; your recovery gets better. Force Palm gets stronger and has more range the more damage he takes (and that's not even when Aura is maxed). The longer you can survive, the stronger you become, and while some people would argue that that's unfair because you're being rewarded for being outplayed, another way to look at it is you're being rewarded for surviving and for having essentially no early game to speak of. One of my favourite things to do, if I'm knocked off-stage, is to hide in the blast bubble and charge my Aura Sphere. What is your opponent going to do, chase you? You can airdodge, or fire your AS at them, or you can just Extreme Speed right then and there and fly right over them. You can wait until Aura Sphere is fully charged and then recover from even the farthest corners of the stage. A fun trick: if you use Double Team and hold in the opposite direction Lucario is facing, then, if it triggers, Lucario will shoot forward rather than backward. You can use this to punish even successful edgeguards while making your own recovery just that much easier. In the same vein, if you knock your opponent off stage, you can chase them as hard as you want. The only way they can fight back is to knock you back into the stage, ensuring that you both recover safely and that your Aura is just that much stronger (unless, of course, they have a meteor smash, like Mario or Donkey Kong. Always be aware of not just your own options, but your opponent's as well). They can't try to edgehog you because that mechanic's been removed entirely, and even if they did, your recovery is just so balls-to-the-wall good that you'd have no trouble making it back anyway. Aside from you getting spiked or something, the worst that can happen to you is that you miss and your opponent makes it back onstage safely. Your Aura gets stronger the more damage you take. This starts to get especially crazy once you hit 100%, because then the Rage mechanic stacks with Aura. Suddenly, your up throw does 14% and you can kill Captain Falcon with fsmash at fifty percent. Your best kill options are your up air and your back air - both of which are kind of slow, but they hit like loving freight trains. I once killed ROB off the top from beneath Battlefield with a single up air at 70%. Maybe it's unfair; maybe it's an oversight; but if you're a tryhard enough to want to win, then Lucario has something for you to exploit. Your Aura maxes out at roughly 200%, but that's only if the stocks are even. If you're up a stock (compared to the next best player), it maxes later, but if your down a stock (compared to whoever's in the lead), it maxes earlier. The game judges whether you have a stock lead or a stock deficit by who is currently "in the lead" in the game you're playing, regardless if that person is your teammate. So, for instance, if you're playing a 2v2 stock game, and you lose all your stocks but your partner hasn't lost one, and then you take one of theirs, and you lose that, and then you take another one - you are now down four stocks, while the best player in the game, your partner, is still on his first. Your Aura now maxes very early, possibly as early as 20%. In the competitive scene, this is called the "Anubis strategy" and is considered not only valid but quite threatening. Once you're at 100%, start spacing with Force Palm. It hits so hard and it reaches so far that you can essentially put up a no-fly zone that nobody can cross or else they're getting shot in the face. Be very careful, though, because Force Palm can be reflected - it'll instantly bounce back into your face and then it's you who's in trouble. So anyway, yeah, Lucario's pretty good. He works really well against characters that build damage quickly and are good at gimping, but not at killing - Sheik, Greninja, Zero Suit Samus, etc. They hit you a bunch, but they can't kill you, and they can't take your recovery because it's too good for them to take. Characters like Donkey Kong and Bowser are great sponges, but they're scary because they can kill you much easier and you have to be in kill percentages to be threatening. Characters with reflectors like Fox or Mario are kind of tricky because spacing with Force Palm is so valuable and they can shut that down completely. To summarize:  E: Oh yeah, if you're playing against friends and they want to use custom moves, use Snaring Aura Sphere. It's essentially the best move ever. e2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGQE6hfOUxA Maple Leaf fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Smash 3DS weekly tournament thing: http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Smash 3DS weekly tournament thing: http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments this is actually exactly the kind of thing I'm in the mood to watch. Hoping to see some cool characters.
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Maple Leaf posted:Lucario Woah. Thanks man. Someone should combine all these goon guides into one place.
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Geop retweeted this from someone on Twitter and I'm reaaaaaaaally hoping it's not a shop.
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FinalGamer posted:Geop retweeted this from someone on Twitter and I'm reaaaaaaaally hoping it's not a shop. Yes, Nintendo made a penis meme reference in SSB for Wii U. I'm sorry the surprise had to be spoiled for you
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And yes, the game has the Wii U corner icon from the dojo screenshots at all times.
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FinalGamer posted:Geop retweeted this from someone on Twitter and I'm reaaaaaaaally hoping it's not a shop. It's a shop dude are you loving serious
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FinalGamer posted:Geop retweeted this from someone on Twitter and I'm reaaaaaaaally hoping it's not a shop. Don't listen to anyone else it's real check out the other one  Nintendo is out of control!!!
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You won't believe what Bowser says during his secret taunt.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:You won't believe what Bowser says during his secret taunt. 10 Things You Never Knew About Duck Hunt!
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:You won't believe what Bowser says during his secret taunt. It's 'beans'. Bowser's taunt has him saying 'beans'. This caught on as a joke among my friends somehow, and I have genuinely no idea where we got it from.
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You Won't Believe How Quickly This Pink Puffball Learns Trade Skills! Teachers Hate Him!
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