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BGrifter posted:The comparison doesn't work, in PAD you roll one copy of a character and you're set. In MPQ you need thirteen copies including no more than 3-5 of each ability just to level it up, nevermind getting the optimal arrangement of skill covers. Fair enough. I had a feeling I was missing something about how the PAD system worked. When I started that game the sheer number of characters was overwhelming and I didn't last long. On a separate note, I'm mildly enthused about this PVE. Marvel 2-star and BP Yellow yes please.
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Interesting. Here's a question, what are those top alliances, specifically X-Men, doing to dominate so hard. Obviously they've figured something out that others haven't.
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skipdogg posted:Interesting. My friend is in a whale alliance so I get to hear about them
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Syrinxx posted:I'd love to see some divisions or leagues in pvp where you can choose the one you enter and get appropriate rewards: only 1-2 stars, only 1-3 stars, or completely open (whales). If I could just choose to go back to 2 star land I'd do it in a second. I thought that would happen with the tourneys where you had to pay to play. It made sense to have a super special place where whales can whale out and feel good about themselves while leaving the casuals alone.
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Nov 6, 2014 19:18
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Auritech posted:Metal Bawkses has nine slots open now. We're super casual, no worries about anything. just joined as triad0626 thanks!
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Nov 6, 2014 19:20
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One thing that definitely helps bring down the levels of opponents is to keep sending in at least one character who's almost dead already. It sounds stupid but it's sometimes the only way I can play a tourney is to send in two tanks with a character who's just recovered from being dead and has like 100 hp. Then I'll start finding opponents with 2* characters or lower level 3*. Losing often and losing HARD seem to make no difference for me.
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Syrinxx posted:Here's one: They always save a pvp node against an alliance-mate when they get it. Then when that guy shields they all beat up on him to get free points. Most of the whale alliance tricks are based on timing and communication, and the rest is just good old fashioned spending, mostly on shields. They also require you to be in IRC or some similar chat thing at specific times, etc. One thing you can notice (specifically xmen 1 and 2) is they're usually all out at the same time (strength in numbers). They'll find their alliance mates, queue 3 of them up in the node, and wait until they say something along the lines of "shielded at 1400".Then they'll leapfrog each other for big points, very quickly, using Sentry+Hood+AP boosts. They'll also call out high value targets for their alliance mates to find and beat up. Spending a lot of HP on boosts ans shields helps. And the official communications app among MPQ whales is LINE 
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I stopped playing for a few months and my mmr dropped and I've faced nothing but 2* heroes for several months after restarting. I'm starting to get 3 and 4* characters in my matchups again though.
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skipdogg posted:For fucks sake, another new character. This poo poo is getting ridiculous. Man, Mystique, too  From the teaser earlier I hoped it would be Nightcrawler.
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I've got a rather large stable of heroes, but Colossus is a new one for me. If I win a cover or two from this event is he worth making space for and hoping the stars align?
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A note on tanking, it was mentioned earlier but to go in a little more detail : It matters less how often you lose and more about who you lose to. Losing to those guys with 166 Sentries and Hoods isn't going to really make things easier, you need to throw matches against those opponents with level 60 2* rosters, those guys have the lowest MMR you can find. That's why if you check the roster of the #1 player in your roster, they're almost certain to have 4 or 5 slots with level 1 Storms, they start each event just losing for a couple days and then make a big push. Theories on the official forums also say that the amount of damage you take in a match factors into it too. I've done well enough by starting events with my weak characters like Wolverine and Storm.
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Nov 7, 2014 06:23
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Honestly that sounds like the most unfun concept ever though.
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Lordy posted:Honestly that sounds like the most unfun concept ever though. It is terribly unfun which is why I choose to win a few times then set a lovely team and lose a bunch of times without actually doing anything
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Nov 7, 2014 16:32
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How in the name of all that is holy is it possible to score 55000 points in the Heroic Juggernaut event? I need that yellow BP cover.
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Yeah, me too. My BP only has 2 blue covers. He's acting as a tank, but he's worthless offense wise. Even 1 yellow or black cover would make this easier. I can't figure out a good offensive team. My GSBW is only 1/1/2, Colossus is 1/1/0 and Ms. Marvel is 3/1/0. The other characters are all optimal and maxed out. I'm beating the levels (barely), but Juggs is whooping my rear end on a regular basis. I think I'm going to try BP/IM35/AWolvie and see how it goes. I tried AWolvie, IM35, and MNMags yesterday to use Mags as a blue generator for IM35 blue, but he's squishy and dies easily. Really though, Heroics like this the key to the progression reward is to get to the Essential nodes and hit them constantly. I hit them every 2.5 hours during the day usually and then 3 or 4 times before I go to bed. I've always hit the point total before the end of the event this way. Scaling has been reduced lately as well, you have to join immediately and use all the time to grind the points out. skipdogg fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 7, 2014 |
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head58 posted:How in the name of all that is holy is it possible to score 55000 points in the Heroic Juggernaut event? I need that yellow BP cover. The points per win scales up faster than you think. The last red node is already over 1000. Just make sure you're also knocking out the easier nodes (any node with a hero and 2 goons plus the all-goon node are all pretty easy) and you'll probably get there with a day to spare. e: oh, I might have misunderstood. If you're saying the team compositions are REALLY restrictive, I agree. I got lucky in that GSBW and BP are 2 of my very few 3-stars over lvl 100. If you don't have any of those though, A. Wolvie should do enough work to at least let you beat up the easy nodes. Also, just flat out ignore that 2nd essential node. Hood/Juggs/Muscle is way more trouble than it's worth. fishtobaskets fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Nov 7, 2014 |
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Nov 7, 2014 17:22
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I just beat it to open the 3rd node. Juggs/Daken/Ares is probably going to get a pass from me as well. It is worth almost 1400 points right now though in my bracket. The lack of AP denial with these characters is killing me.
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skipdogg posted:
This is the worst part. I'm used to using Hood constantly, actually letting enemies use their powers makes this game much harder! Particularly when both BW and BP both need a fair amount of AP to get their powers off- if one of them uses their big power, the fight is pretty much over, but saving up for it without AP drain is a pain.
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Yeah, Juggs has gotten some insane combos off. Especially on that 2nd Essential node. Crash, then headbutt, then twin pistols and I'm basically hosed.
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14 minutes to go in PVP and I'm ranked 99. I have 2 beatable teams queued up... do I risk dropping shield? Last time I did this I won 22 pts but got beat twice for neg 40 resulting in a loss of 18 net
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Nov 8, 2014 06:46
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Auritech posted:Metal Bawkses has nine slots open now. We're super casual, no worries about anything. Joining this if that's okay. Same user name as here but with an extra e.
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I joined Metal Bawkses, though I have no idea what I'm doing in the big picture.  I have on open slot and a choice of reward covers betweeen 2 star guys: Thor (Marvel Now), Captain Marvel (Ms Marvel), or Magneto (Marvel Now). Who do I pick? Also, I only have 6 slots and I'm struggling to get more, whats the easiest way to get gold coins or whatever without spending realbux? E: Despite not really knowing whats going on and just playing a bunch I am somehow rank 30 in the Juggernaut Heroic thing.
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AirRaid posted:I joined Metal Bawkses, though I have no idea what I'm doing in the big picture. Hero coins are a slow and steady sort of thing, unfortunately. Used to be able to get a trickle of them from selling covers (*** and **** I believe) but nowadays it's just from event rewards. --Thor's a solid **, one of the ones others are judged around. His yellow feeds his green for quite a bit of damage. Tanky in HP (though not much of a beast as some). --NOW! Magneto is a specialist. His blue isn't great (the countdown goes up with covers) but his purple can get a lot of combos rolling and his red is amazing, at 5 covers it's a 1-turn countdown that blows a 5x5 area hits massive damage and gives you the AP of the tiles whose only downside is the 14-red cost. He's also rather fragile HP-wise, so if he takes point in your attacks he's gonna eat some health kits. The main place he combos is with other characters who have a good blue power, and **storm and **magneto is a spectacular team at the ** level that can easily turn a board with some purple and blue tiles into a complete enemy-clearing combo. --I haven't played with Marvvel, by the time she came out I had a solid collection of *** guys and she didn't fill any gaps in my stable.
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I take back what I said about 55,000 points being easy to get. This event was paced much tighter than the one for 2-star Marvel. I've been playing pretty consistently & only got the BP cover this morning.
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AirRaid posted:
If you haven't gone through the Prologue (ie. Venom, Oscorp, etc.) yet a handful of those levels show "Hero Point" rewards, although you may have to replay the levels a couple times to win them. You should be able to get to a total 10 or 13 slots just from those. Also, if you can get decent team-ups from your alliance, like a 5 green Juggernaut to deal with enemy countdown tiles, it really makes farming those early levels much less of a slog.
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Yeah, if you're in an alliance with some of us who have been playing way too long, feel free to ask for some team-ups. I don't have specific guys waiting around to assist but I can, for example, easily spare my ** Storm for a few days and any of her skills at my level will be a pretty big boon for a beginner.
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fishtobaskets posted:I take back what I said about 55,000 points being easy to get. This event was paced much tighter than the one for 2-star Marvel. I've been playing pretty consistently & only got the BP cover this morning. I just now got mine. Things are much tighter lately. I've only been playing for ~100 days or so, but it seems some of the old school guys are cranky about the changes. I guess you used to be able to join an event like this with only 24 hours to go and thanks to the rubberband hit the progression reward. It's not like that anymore, I join early and milk the easy nodes often. AirRaid posted:I joined Metal Bawkses, though I have no idea what I'm doing in the big picture. This game is tough without spending some bucks on roster slots, but the advice given earlier about making sure you get all the Hero Points available in the missions is on point. I've spent about 70 bucks so far on this game, almost all on roster spots. That sounds ridiculous but honestly I've played this way longer than any PS3 game I ever bought (except Killzone 2) so it's not too bad really when I think about it to a dollars:hours of entertainment ratio. If those were my choices I would keep Thor. I'm not a huge fan of 2 star Thor and rarely use him, I much prefer Ares honestly, but he is a good tanky character. I think his Red is weak, and his yellow and green are too hard to reliably use. A longer match though where he can get his skills going and he can be brutal. Ms. Marvel is worth getting rid of at an early level. She's useful at higher levels or for someone that needs a yellow/black user, but she won't do much where you are in the game. Magneto is a great support character, but Thor is a better choice for someone early in the game. His Red is hard to get off (14AP), his blue tends to get matched off before it goes off, but his purple when teamed with CStorm is devastating.
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Bruceski posted:Yeah, if you're in an alliance with some of us who have been playing way too long, feel free to ask for some team-ups. I don't have specific guys waiting around to assist but I can, for example, easily spare my ** Storm for a few days and any of her skills at my level will be a pretty big boon for a beginner. Yeah see I didnt even know that was possible  I'd be up for some goony help if anyone can. I'm AirRaid in game too.
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Auritech posted:Metal Bawkses has nine slots open now. We're super casual, no worries about anything. Applied as Ballocaust
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Nov 10, 2014 04:06
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GTO posted:I hit a point where I was only seeing maxed 3 star characters. I suicide all of my characters once, which took about 30 mins. That was a few months ago and these days I still mostly see max 2 star and user levelled 3 star characters. A few days late but I didn't see an answer to this. Your shield keeps you from being attacked, which is the point of putting up a weak team. They need to lose for your MMR to drop.
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No it just stops you from losing points when you are attacked. If you shield up it shows you afterwards how many times you were attacked and how many point drops you saved by being shielded.
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Hmm looks like they will be refunding all hp spent on opening alliance slots. http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18675 As the purchaser of the last (ie most expensive) slot in pizza dog, I welcome this.
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What are you guys doing with your Devil Dinosaur covers? Is he worth a roster slot or should I just drop him? If anyone else needs an alliance Bounce House has a bunch of slots open... super casual alliance that plays daily.
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bouncyman posted:What are you guys doing with your Devil Dinosaur covers? Is he worth a roster slot or should I just drop him? He's a trophy character that serves only as a deterrent to sentry bombers once maxed out. I kept mine but I have no intention of spending resources on it.
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retro sexual posted:No it just stops you from losing points when you are attacked. If you shield up it shows you afterwards how many times you were attacked and how many point drops you saved by being shielded. Welp, I'm a dummy. Only ever shielded once for 3 hours. I guess no one attacked me.
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GTO posted:Hmm looks like they will be refunding all hp spent on opening alliance slots. Well that's nice and also quite unexpected. I'd written off however many HP it was already (not all that much but still), but they're actually being reasonable about it. Apparently at first it was only going to be people who expanded alliances in October (?) but now it's everyone.
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Bruceski posted:I wonder if there'll be a hiccup because I switched alliances. I'm sure they still know which account the hp came from.
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