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a dozen swans posted:What do you all play, and why?
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a dozen swans posted:
If money weren't a hurdle I would play what I describe as engine based combo. Decks like storm, ascendancy, dredge, bloom titan, where the entire deck is a bunch of synergistic moving parts. I also like sweet value grind decks like zombardment or lands. I dislike A+B combo decks like splinter twin and sneak and show. I am definitely a johnny and enjoy playing cards in ways they weren't meant to be, and the thought puzzle aspect of engine based decks.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:43
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Madmarker posted:Blue is academia, they are the research scientists that want to know how to extract energy from the sun. Black is the business owner funding the institute so it can have first dibs at the awesome new technology they made and charging people a premium rate to use it. Oh and some demon summoning on the side. When is that aspect of black reflected in the cards, though? For example, look at the black KTK cards. Most of the creatures are assassins, demons, undead, and angry orcs with greataxes. There's also carrion-eater and a guy who cuts open brains. The spells are mostly make zombies, murder someone (sometimes a prisoner), and hate hate hate. I chose KTK because it's the most recent set, but you'd get similar results looking at pretty much any other set. "Black is totally about being the guy who runs the factory" doesn't hold much water when this is a card game and the cards say nothing of the sort. I think it's fine for a fantasy card game to have a black magic color of evil, I just think it's dumb that Maro pretends that black totally isn't about being evil and is really a philosophical viewpoint about e: FFS, the black iconic is literally named "A Villainess" Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Nov 6, 2014 21:44
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Sickening posted:I am pretty sure that gross exaggeration and fake outrage doesn't solve it either. And you evidence for either is...?
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Nov 6, 2014 21:45
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bhsman posted:And you evidence for either is...? Are you serious? How did I let myself get trolled this hard.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:46
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Any opinion stronger than mine on a subject is grossly exaggerating and fake by default. 
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Nov 6, 2014 21:47
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Lottery of Babylon posted:When is that aspect of black reflected in the cards, though? For example, look at the black KTK cards. Most of the creatures are assassins, demons, undead, and angry orcs with greataxes. There's also carrion-eater and a guy who cuts open brains. The spells are mostly make zombies, murder someone (sometimes a prisoner), and hate hate hate. I chose KTK because it's the most recent set, but you'd get similar results looking at pretty much any other set. "Black is totally about being the guy who runs the factory" doesn't hold much water when this is a card game and the cards say nothing of the sort. Kamigawa and Ravnica blocks' storylines both had black-aligned protagonists and white-aligned antagonists, for what it's worth. Sometimes someone strives for an oppressive form of hegemony and it takes a cunning and ruthless character to fight it, or something like that.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:47
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Sickening posted:I am pretty sure that gross exaggeration and fake outrage doesn't solve it either.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:48
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Sickening posted:Are you serious? You made the claim, so explain it already.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:49
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Lancelot posted:Why do you keep crapping over everyone who cares about not being a sexist piece of poo poo? Like, I seriously don't get what your angle is here, do you break out in hives whenever you see a woman? Do conversations about people other than straight white dudes cause your throat to swell up? Does me making fun of the discussion every time it crops up trigger you?
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Nov 6, 2014 21:49
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Lancelot posted:Why do you keep crapping over everyone who cares about not being a sexist piece of poo poo? Like, I seriously don't get what your angle is here, do you break out in hives whenever you see a woman? Do conversations about people other than straight white dudes cause your throat to swell up? I think there's a difference between caring about the fact that there are men who mistreat women and saying that you're ASHAMED to be a male because there are males who don't treat women properly. And the latter was what was being said.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:51
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a dozen swans posted:What do you all play, and why? I picked up Melira Pod in Modern before it was on the radar. Same with Miracles in Legacy. I guess I'm a masochist and I like decks more the harder they are to play well, but I sold off Miracles and don't really play Modern anymore. I play Elves in Legacy now because I guess I'm also a big fan of decks that have lots of little moving pieces that all mesh together to make something better. My first serious Standard I started with Reanimator, then I moved on to Junk Aristocrats when that became popular. I guess I stop liking decks once they're all figured out and end up netdecked by everyone else, but same theme: twisty decks with huge decision trees that are pretty hard to just pick up any play without any practice (and therefore hard to play against if you aren't experienced, too). I think I also like new ideas that haven't quite found their legs so I can sort of be a part of that deck's development, then I lose interest once it's solved.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:51
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I don't play any Modern at the moment, none of the available decks interest me. In Legacy, I play Miracles and Death & Taxes, depending on which suits my current mood.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:53
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Ramos posted:I don't play any Modern at the moment, none of the available decks interest me. In Legacy, I play Miracles and Death & Taxes, depending on which suits my current mood. Have you given Modern Hatebears a try?
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Nov 6, 2014 21:53
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Massdrop on Ultra Pro Pro-Mattes; $33 for 12-packs at the lowest price https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ultra-pro-pro-matte-sleeves-12x50-pack?mode=guest_open
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Nov 6, 2014 21:55
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Sickening posted:Does me making fun of the discussion every time it crops up trigger you?
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Nov 6, 2014 21:55
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I picked up Melira Pod in Modern before it was on the radar. Same with Miracles in Legacy. I guess I'm a masochist and I like decks more the harder they are to play well, but I sold off Miracles and don't really play Modern anymore. I play Elves in Legacy now because I guess I'm also a big fan of decks that have lots of little moving pieces that all mesh together to make something better. I get enough Pod in cube (i do that weird thing where you run multiples of it as an interactive version of reanimator) but if money were no object I'd totally play one of the niche Pod decks all day errday. maybe BUG nic fit pod? whatever, you've got sweet taste in decks
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Nov 6, 2014 21:56
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Count Bleck posted:Have you given Modern Hatebears a try? Honestly, I really haven't and should. Telling people no and punching them in the face is very much what I enjoy doing. Looking into a primer right now.
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Nov 6, 2014 21:59
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Sickening posted:Does me making fun of the discussion every time it crops up trigger you? Oh, awesome, rape jokes.  Zoness posted:I think there's a difference between caring about the fact that there are men who mistreat women and saying that you're ASHAMED to be a male because there are males who don't treat women properly. And the latter was what was being said. I think it's fair to say any of us can feel shame whenever some fedora-wearing goonie pops up on a stream or we give personal stories about some rear end in a top hat at the local shop without it being related to how they treat women because we share a hobby. Saying you're ashamed of being a guy when you hear about this stuff isn't a stretch, but even as exaggeration the talk of 'fake outrage' is just incredibly stupid.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:02
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Zoness posted:Kamigawa and Ravnica blocks' storylines both had black-aligned protagonists and white-aligned antagonists, for what it's worth. Sometimes someone strives for an oppressive form of hegemony and it takes a cunning and ruthless character to fight it, or something like that. Ravnica's storyline in both cases was also "Dimir does dickish evil things that don't benefit them in any way just for the sake of being evil." For everyone like Sorin or Umezawa, there are several dozen like Liliana, black-Garruk, Bolas, Ob Nixilis, Griselbrand, Yawgmoth, Lazav, Szadek. And that's just looking at the big, named characters. What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:02
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Ravnica's storyline in both cases was also "Dimir does dickish evil things that don't benefit them in any way just for the sake of being evil." For everyone like Sorin or Umezawa, there are several dozen like Liliana, black-Garruk, Bolas, Ob Nixilis, Griselbrand, Yawgmoth, Lazav, Szadek. And that's just looking at the big, named characters. What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires? The Cabal is the closest thing to the whole mercantile thing. They were a money making organization, for the benefit of a god baby, that used demons, and dementia summoners, and just about anyone to make money through the "Pit Fights". The various Pit Fighters are all represented. You can see it on some onslaught/odyssey flavor text as well. Albeit minimally. They have done a disservice to black by only representing the creepy crawly evil side of it, but capitalism/objectivism is also a part of its pie.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:06
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Lottery of Babylon posted:What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires? What's the difference? :lfsay:
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Nov 6, 2014 22:06
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Ravnica's storyline in both cases was also "Dimir does dickish evil things that don't benefit them in any way just for the sake of being evil." For everyone like Sorin or Umezawa, there are several dozen like Liliana, black-Garruk, Bolas, Ob Nixilis, Griselbrand, Yawgmoth, Lazav, Szadek. And that's just looking at the big, named characters. What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:07
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Lancelot posted:Haha, it's funny, because "trigger" is a word that victims of rape use. Haha! Rape. Hilarious. bhsman posted:Oh, awesome, rape jokes. Since when does trigger only concern rape? Jesus you two are confusing as gently caress.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:07
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lonequid posted:Massdrop on Ultra Pro Pro-Mattes; $33 for 12-packs at the lowest price https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ultra-pro-pro-matte-sleeves-12x50-pack?mode=guest_open Got in on this, it seems like an absolutely massive bargain
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Nov 6, 2014 22:10
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Sickening posted:Since when does trigger only concern rape? Jesus you two are confusing as gently caress. Since when is it still funny if it refers to rape, sexual abuse, etc.? What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:11
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homerlaw posted:Got in on this, it seems like an absolutely massive bargain I have always been burned on ultra pro, are the mattes actually useable?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:11
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bhsman posted:Since when is it still funny if it refers to rape, sexual abuse, etc.? What the gently caress is wrong with you? At this point I have no clue if you are even trying to talk to me because I can't figure out where in the hell you ever felt I had any discussion about rape.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:12
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Sickening posted:At this point I have no clue if you are even trying to talk to me because I can't figure out where in the hell you ever felt I had any discussion about rape. You don't get to make a joke about triggering and then wash your hands of it, especially in how you used it. Don't be a dipshit.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:16
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Why is there a page full of the word trigger that isn't a discussion of the most recent rules changes?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:17
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Sickening posted:I have always been burned on ultra pro, are the mattes actually useable? I actually really like the Mattes. I prefer them for limited because 50 is a great number, but if I get 600 I guess I can use them for constructed too.  Either way they're definitely leagues ahead of the picture ones.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:18
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How does everyone ITT feel about rare redrafting?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:18
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Yeah, lets have another discussion about rape, here in the trading card game thread, of an irreverent comedy website, it went so well last time.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:18
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bhsman posted:You don't get to make a joke about triggering and then wash your hands of it, especially in how you used it. Don't be a dipshit. You really are certifiably insane. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trigger I wasn't trying to make a rape joke you sick gently caress.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:18
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Madmarker posted:The Cabal is the closest thing to the whole mercantile thing. They were a money making organization, for the benefit of a god baby, that used demons, and dementia summoners, and just about anyone to make money through the "Pit Fights". The various Pit Fighters are all represented. You can see it on some onslaught/odyssey flavor text as well. Albeit minimally. Isn't the Orzhov Syndicate literally a corrupt organization that uses wealth and posthumous slave contracting in order to get what they want? There's your Capitalism. 
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Nov 6, 2014 22:19
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Ravnica's storyline in both cases was also "Dimir does dickish evil things that don't benefit them in any way just for the sake of being evil." For everyone like Sorin or Umezawa, there are several dozen like Liliana, black-Garruk, Bolas, Ob Nixilis, Griselbrand, Yawgmoth, Lazav, Szadek. And that's just looking at the big, named characters. What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires? At least one looks like a merchant.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:22
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Heartless Summoning was the best deck and I'm super mad it had to share Standard with Delver and isn't good enough for Modern.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:23
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Ravnica's storyline in both cases was also "Dimir does dickish evil things that don't benefit them in any way just for the sake of being evil." For everyone like Sorin or Umezawa, there are several dozen like Liliana, black-Garruk, Bolas, Ob Nixilis, Griselbrand, Yawgmoth, Lazav, Szadek. And that's just looking at the big, named characters. What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires? Have you read Drana's flavor text? She seems like a protagonist to me. Unless you're trying to win an 8-4 against her, that is. I mean, sure, bring up that Anowon is a huge jerk, he still helped Chandra out a few times.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:23
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Boxman posted:I actually really like the Mattes. I prefer them for limited because 50 is a great number, but if I get 600 I guess I can use them for constructed too. I just never could figure what else I would want out of sleeves the kmc super mattes or dragon shields didn't already provide. I still can't figure out why deck sleeves get so dirty so fast. Super scrubbing my hands before I touch my deck, washing my playmat weekly, and my sleeves still end up with gunk all over them in less than two weeks of play.
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If you don't double sleeve, Ultra Pros are the best. Best seal, best shuffle, and the most consistent cut. Some of them will split but whatever, they're cheap, just replace the bad ones. That mass drop is a good deal but if you prefer the clears you can get 200 for $10 on Amazon.Ciprian Maricon posted:Yeah, lets have another discussion about rape, here in the trading card game thread, of an irreverent comedy website, it went so well last time. 
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