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Zaggitz posted:If i enter Sheol do i still get the reward from the big chest for beating moms heart? Was I supposed to open the big chest before going into Sheol?
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It really feels like some of these runs are seeded with synergy intentionally. I just finished an incredibly easy Eve run where I got the burning/explosive tears, then got Pyromaniac, the remote bomb detonator, and Bobs head. Of course I dropped the detonator when a heaven room dropped an item that gave you white hearts every five rooms 
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Zoness posted:Is Danny Baranowsky still the guy that does music for Rebirth? I feel like the soundtrack in Rebirth is conspicuously worse aside from the basement track - is there a way to splice the old Isaac soundtrack in? No, he didn't do the music for this game. Which is a shame, because for the most part the music is a lot more "atmospheric" I guess? But it's not nearly as good as the old music. I kinda like the music that plays in sword rooms sometimes, but a lot of the other music sounds like really short loops of "spooky" noises, instead of creepy/awesome music like in vanilla BoI. Edit VVVVVV: http://platinumgod.co.uk
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Can someone link me the url.co.uk link that is supposedly a wiki or something? I've seen people linking it but can't find it now.
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drunken officeparty posted:Can someone link me the somethingsomething.co.uk link that is supposedly a wiki or something? I've seen people linking it but can't find it now. http://platinumgod.co.uk/ Platinum God, like the old 100% achievement. Hit the "Rebirth?" slider on the top right to switch to Rebirth items.
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rabidsquid posted:It really feels like some of these runs are seeded with synergy intentionally. I just finished an incredibly easy Eve run where I got the burning/explosive tears, then got Pyromaniac, the remote bomb detonator, and Bobs head. Of course I dropped the detonator when a heaven room dropped an item that gave you white hearts every five rooms The items you pick up change what items you get later. IIRC in the original picking up Dr. Fetus would increase the odds of getting the bomb-related pickups by 500%. Stuff like that.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:34
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 I guess that's a thing that can happen now, unless it's a bug. On the subject of Dr.Fetus, I did the DemoMan challenge and Dr.Fetus certainly feels a lot weaker. Only reason I actually beat the challenge was getting a dice room and turning me into a double brimstone daddy long leg stomping monster. Also...completing it unlocked Chaos Card rather than Epic Fetus...ooooo boy, gonna be fun finding out where to properly unlock that.
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"Boy I'm doing really well this run. I have a ton of hearts so I should be able to beat the heart safely. Finally gonna get a win with Maggie!" *encounters new boss, dies horribly in 20 seconds*  Zoness posted:Is Danny Baranowsky still the guy that does music for Rebirth? I feel like the soundtrack in Rebirth is conspicuously worse aside from the basement track - is there a way to splice the old Isaac soundtrack in? I don't think he is. I have mixed feelings about the soundtrack in this game as well. Some tracks are really good (basement and the boss theme are really nice), while others are very meh compared to the original. The weird thing is a lot of them have terrible background noise that could be cut out and that alone would improve the music a ton. The silly chanting in Sheol and the meat squishing in Womb are good examples of that.
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I just unlocked the Lucky Toe by bombing a bunch of those blue dudes sitting around in the secret rooms.
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:Lil'haunt is my bff. Soo good There is a Shop item called BFF, but I couldnt tell what it did. Something to do with buddy's I'd imagine but I was doing a challenge and only had that headless one that leaves a trail of blood. Does anybody know what each upgrade of the shop actually does? More/better items or what?
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LaughMyselfTo posted:I hope nothing cool gets its power nerfed, but anything "overpowered" gets its rarity nerfed. The existence of overpowered runs is a good thing in my book, but they seem way too common. On the subject of rarity, I've gotten Sacred Heart twice now in the first 48 hours the game was out, as opposed to getting it like once every three months as in the original game. Kubla Khan posted:Hi, I'm completely new and looking to get into this. Should I get the old Isaac or play Rebirth in its current state? Search for "Binding of Isaac Demo" and try the demo on Newgrounds or wherever it's hosted first, if you want. That'll give you a taste of what Isaac is all about. But yeah, get Rebirth. Zoness posted:Is Danny Baranowsky still the guy that does music for Rebirth? I feel like the soundtrack in Rebirth is conspicuously worse aside from the basement track - is there a way to splice the old Isaac soundtrack in? The new music is definitely a downgrade, but it's more atmospheric/ambient music instead of the intense feel of the original game's music. I guess that's what Edmund wanted to go for. In some ways it fits the new game better, I think. I turned the music off because I like to watch things on my other monitor, and even the ambient music is distracting. One thing I really miss though: in the original game, even if you had the music off, using something like the Unicorn Horn would play its special music. Since now it just speeds the music up, you don't get any kind of audio clue it's started. It's really jarring when using Taurus. There's also no audio cue when going into a boss room or finding a mini-boss.
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Does anyone understand what breath of life actually does? Platinum God seems to imply that you hold down the button to take damage to get invulnerability frames. Which doesn't really seem like a good item, considering that you could just get hit normally.Oblivion4568238 posted:Just right, up, right in the treasure room from the start point. Is it not the same on your end? There's an interesting thought, non-code seeds having different results between machines...
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Logan 5 posted:There is a Shop item called BFF, but I couldnt tell what it did. Something to do with buddy's I'd imagine but I was doing a challenge and only had that headless one that leaves a trail of blood. the bff fly explodes when he touches an enemy, respawns every room, possibly even during the same room but i might have not seen that right. its fairly good, the fly is a bro
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^^^ There are two items; BFF Fly(BBF) and BFF.Logan 5 posted:There is a Shop item called BFF, but I couldnt tell what it did. Something to do with buddy's I'd imagine but I was doing a challenge and only had that headless one that leaves a trail of blood. BFF makes your familiars bigger(and presumably do more damage).
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SuicideSnowman posted:Epic Fetus/Dr. Fetus trivialized the last game. I don't really see an issue with super powerful but rare items. If it's so powerful just make it extremely rare. But then you still know that somewhere out there someone is still using it right now. And doesn't that just make you hate life?
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RatHat posted:^^^ There are two items; BFF Fly(BBF) and BFF. Ah, thanks, guess I just didn't pay close enough attention to it when I picked up. Has anyone else noticed that on the pause screen the luck stat never actually changes from 1? At least for me it doesnt, even after luck items like the scab/lucky foot or luck up pills. Bug?
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Man, anything that causes friendly bugs to spawn at any sort of rate (the infestations, mom's wig, etc) is totally OP. Every one of my wins so far has hinged on having them. Also, Haunt has officially replaced Widow for the title older of "Worst Thought Out Placement in the Game". Seriously, he pops up on the first floor WAY too often considering how fast he and his babies are.
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The worst runs are the ones that give you ridiculous survivability items but no damage upgrades. Bosses aren't hard but taking loving forever to beat. Similarly, gently caress Soy Milk.
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Logan 5 posted:Ah, thanks, guess I just didn't pay close enough attention to it when I picked up. It goes up, I think it took me 3-4 luck up pills to get to 2 ticks.
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drunken officeparty posted:Azazel is terrible, charged shots are terrible, brimstone is terrible. I unironically agree with this. Charge times actually make the game un-fun for me, regardless of the wow-factor post-shot.
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Cobalt60 posted:I unironically agree with this. Charge times actually make the game un-fun for me, regardless of the wow-factor post-shot.  SCRUB ALERT Just kidding, plenty of people didn't like Brimstone in the original game either. Speaking of which, Ludivico on Azazel is obviously super good, but I didn't realize that it would also make poison and freeze powerups actually useful on him since the brimstone ring counts as constantly hitting an enemy, rather than just the big shot it would normally be. Froze+poisoned every boss, although they weren't exactly going to last long anyway. Love the new combinations so god drat much 
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drunken officeparty posted:Azazel is terrible, charged shots are terrible, brimstone is terrible. He sure is terrible, being the most reliable way to Win streak right now.
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Cobalt60 posted:I unironically agree with this. Charge times actually make the game un-fun for me, regardless of the wow-factor post-shot. I don't find Azazel bad, I just find him not-fun. Yet I keep playing him because I suck and he's my best bet for a no-damage streak that will give me Samson.  His Baby Brimstone is going to give me tinnitus. Fucker absolutely melts bosses though. I can barely make it to Mom reliably on other characters yet I beat the boss-rush without trying with him.
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Ugh, the worst part of Head Trauma is that I'm pretty much guaranteed to gently caress up at least one bomb per run by forgetting to wait til all the shots are clear before dropping it. e:  
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God drat I'm getting some serious confirmation bias with hard mode. I've been playing exclusively hard mode today and went on an astonishing -10 win streak. As soon as I tick it back to normal I beat the Cathedral for the first time. Hard mode isn't really that much tougher, I think I'm just psyching myself out. Has it been confirmed that there are unique achievements/unlocks for hard mode? apophenium fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Is there any specific way to control wether you can get a Cathedral/Sheol dungeon? I hate getting to Mom and ending the game because I couldn't continue.
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Dizz posted:Is there any specific way to control wether you can get a Cathedral/Sheol dungeon? I hate getting to Mom and ending the game because I couldn't continue. A joker card should do it.
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All of you saying that the music is worse are crazy. If you don't think that this or this (or especially this) are great I don't even know what to say.
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OH MY GOD, the green leaf powerup that turns you into an invincible stone if you don't move for a second totally works even if you have a Ludivico brimstone ring. You can't move the circle without the rock breaking, but you can totally walk into a room, put the ring in the middle, and then stand there while everything dies and you're invincible. This is in a run where I'm already full guppy, have frozen + poisoned effects on my Ludivico brimstone ring, have three orbitals, the buddy that lays down a slow path for enemies, and am Azazel. This is rivaling some of the original game's super broken "have literally every powerup in the game" runs. I literally can't lose.
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President Ark posted:The items you pick up change what items you get later. IIRC in the original picking up Dr. Fetus would increase the odds of getting the bomb-related pickups by 500%. Stuff like that. I didn't have any idea about that so thanks for letting me know! I never really messed with the wiki or anything I guess. This might be confirmation bias but on my run where I unlocked Lord of the Flies there were several massive rooms full of flies leading up to things later in the run too. Stupid brain making up patterns.
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I had a run that gifted me with middling tear upgrades but a fuckton of babies: Maggie, Harlequin, Brim, Dry, Dark Bum, three flies, Bandage ball level 2, holy water and 1up. I managed to beat Mom's heart somewhat well but Sheol started kicking my rear end(too many babies, too little firepower). I got to satan which promptly smashed me and used my 1up. I farmed some rocks and confronted Satan again with two hearts and two souls... The krampus was manageable(thanks brimstone baby) but Satan first phase ate three hearts. Managed to survive the stompy phase by running around non stop and gluing my finger to the drop bomb button(I had 80+ bombs) .I just had to pay attention to the leeches and my own stray explosions. First Sheol win! Tafferling fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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IronicDongz posted:You don't need to keep the spacebar item to stay Guppy. Was just about to post that 
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EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE!!! I suck at this game, and now its going to kick my rear end even more?!? 
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IronicDongz posted:All of you saying that the music is worse are crazy. If you don't think that this or this (or especially this) are great I don't even know what to say. I dunno it's not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olmhqonMXBo or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmFlsVUCBc4 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFaTP4FoRfU. And specifically the ambience for caves and depths is just annoying and I miss the goofy 8 bit unicorn invincibility theme.
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drunken officeparty posted:Azazel is terrible, charged shots are terrible, brimstone is terrible.
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IronicDongz posted:All of you saying that the music is worse are crazy. If you don't think that this or this (or especially this) are great I don't even know what to say. they're alright, I'd take it as a lateral move. Although I prefer My Innermost Apocalypse over that. Unfortunately, none of us will get to hear the music that is actually good but from way late in the game because everyone will have muted the soundtrack earlier as a result of the migraine-inducing Depths track.
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