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chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Edward_Tohr posted:

Chuck plastic balls at it until it becomes your friend, use it to attack other people's pets.

Ah, the Pocket rear end in a top hat solution.

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nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

myron cope posted:

I have a user that can't open a particular excel file from a network drive. It tries to download for awhile and either doesn't work or sometimes bsods her machine. I thought it was kaspersky doing something because it says its databases are obsolete and also because it breaks poo poo all the time. One of the sysadmins here says he saw the same issue before and removing print drivers fixed it. How is that possible
If it's a large workbook (like say > 100MB) or she's on a slower computer, try disabling Excel File Validation just to see if it's the validation that's killing it. At least try and rule EFV in or out that way. I had a bunch of users with that same issue and thanks to their computer sucking, the validation would sometimes take 15+ minutes each time they tried to open the file.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Rohaq posted:

I believe wasps emit pheromones when they die that attract further wasps to investigate.

Knock it out of the air with a well timed backhand, capture it, and release is the safest way.

Fire is an excellent counter to pheromone-based networks.

Also printers.

the real blah
Oct 31, 2010

myron cope posted:

This sounds like my nightmare. I'd rather deal with printers all day



I have a user that can't open a particular excel file from a network drive. It tries to download for awhile and either doesn't work or sometimes bsods her machine. I thought it was kaspersky doing something because it says its databases are obsolete and also because it breaks poo poo all the time. One of the sysadmins here says he saw the same issue before and removing print drivers fixed it. How is that possible

I have seen that exact problem before. It's because for a reason only Microsoft can explain, Excel saves information on the default printer when you save a spreadsheet, but can cause problems when opening them with another version of the driver.

See also this for another problem that this caused:
http://insecureprinting.com/Microsoft_Excel_Spreadsheets_Expose_User_PIN_Used_for_Confidential_Secure_Printing.pdf

JohnnyCanuck
May 28, 2004

Strong And/Or Free

organburner posted:

Can I rant about the ticketing system I use?
The one that this entire organization uses, this organization being in the top five computer manufacturers?
Because holy god this is a real piece of poo poo.
And I don't know where to begin.

I guess we can start with something small, but something that will still drive you up the loving wall at times. The whole UI is a mess of frames and boxes and information is spread out in an annoying fashion. Some places you can double click an un-selectable thing and it will copy it to your pasteboard, other places that won't work and you need to copy it manually to notepad (FUN!).
The right click contextual menu does not randomly work in some fields (WTF?) despite being able to select the information there. Additionally it has this extremely annoying feature when selecting text in that it will select the whole word even though you might only want the last 5 letters or whatever.
Also, double clicking to select will behave differently in different windows. Let's say you have a string like 123/abc/xyz. In some windows if you double click the string to select it will only select that section (so click on a it will only select abc) in others it will select the whole loving string.
Small annoyances, I can live with this, no problem.
Let's get to the real annoying bits.
It's slow, unforgivably slow, which makes the next thing even more fun. Sometimes when you click a button it will not give any indication that it has been clicked. The buttons are, in theory at least, animated but you see the animations maybe 25% of the time. This, coupled with the fact that it can take up to 30 seconds for it to do whatever it's supposed to do when the button is pressed makes it the worst peice of poo poo ever because after 5 seconds you start doubting whether you actually clicked the button at all.
gently caress.
Let's move on.
Tickets disappear, and there is no way for us lowliest of the low support people to get them back, and since we work with 60+ tickets a day we don't exactly remember every single thing.
We have no way of checking tickets for someone who is out sick, which is also pretty loving cool when customers are waiting for updates.
Sometimes when writing information in tickets it will randomly delete what you have written.
Sometimes when updating contact information it will wipe everything and then save it, resulting in a ticket with no contact information and that poo poo don't get archived in any way, son.
When entering addresses you get two lines for the street name but it will try to combine these for some stupid reason so "Sunstreet 97 floor 2
room 867"
Can become "sunstreet floor 867 room 2"
It will randomly switch to another ticket while you are working, and this thing can only have one ticket open for viewing at a time.

gently caress.
There is so much more but this is depressing the hell out of me, I need to get out of here because I can't deal with this and some of our customers.

Like the one who called on friday 5 minutes before I was going to log off saying she would call the cops if UPS didn't deliver her unit within the next 5 minutes.
No idea what happened, I just transferred her to the people who work with UPS (UPS is a poo poo company if you're not a big business that regularly receives packages from them)
I'm thinking I will leave once my year is up, maybe go back to school. I don't get paid enough to deal with the ticketing system nor some of these customers.

This sounds like the best ticketing system ever.

Is it an in-house design, or is it a commercial system? If so, can you tell us which one it is?

Ataraxia
Jun 15, 2001

Champion of nothing.

Ataraxia posted:

"The air conditioning loving exploded and there is water on loving everything"

:stare:
Salvaged this today.

Naturally their backup was incomplete.

The air con was serviced 3 weeks ago, so they are blaming it on that, also no drip tray on an air con unit directly above a rack... Genius.

Fallout: 1 dead controller, 3 dead power supplies.

210tb of data saved.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

:stare: I need to get into a bigger MSP


(Nice job)

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

JohnnyCanuck posted:

This sounds like the best ticketing system ever.

Is it an in-house design, or is it a commercial system? If so, can you tell us which one it is?

It's in-house.
First thing they told me about the system was "don't worry, a new one is on the way"
After talking to my colleagues it turns out the new one has been on the way for at least 2 years now!

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
We have always been Ticketed from Oceania...

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Gwaihir posted:

We just sorta looked at each other and exchanged a few WTFs before asking how that was an IT problem
"The wasp is having trouble getting the projector to work."

skooky
Oct 2, 2013

organburner posted:

It's in-house.
First thing they told me about the system was "don't worry, a new one is on the way"
After talking to my colleagues it turns out the new one has been on the way for at least 2 years now!

Well I guess I can rule out at least one of those Top 5 companies you work for. Ours is actually.. not that bad :shobon:

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Knormal posted:

"The wasp is having trouble getting the projector to work."

"How did it go in rehearsal ?"

spiny
May 20, 2004

round and round and round

Knormal posted:

"The wasp is having trouble getting the projector to work."

:D


"The wasp forgot the power supply for their laptop, do you have a spare ? No, I don't know what make it is."

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

spiny posted:

:D


"The wasp forgot the power supply for their laptop, do you have a spare ? No, I don't know what make it is."

Didn't I read somewhere that USB 3.1 is going to allow for charging laptops via USB? This needs to happen sooner rather than later.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Didn't I read somewhere that USB 3.1 is going to allow for charging laptops via USB? This needs to happen sooner rather than later.

It can, yes. Which means you're just going to end up with a broken USB header after either HULK SMASH insertion, or laptop bag pachinko.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM
Every OEM needs to adopt something like apple's magsafe. That thing is awesome.

The Surface tablets have it also.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

It can, yes. Which means you're just going to end up with a broken USB header after either HULK SMASH insertion, or laptop bag pachinko.

That is assuming they even use the correct port to begin with. Unless the new USB plugs won't be backwards compatible.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Every OEM needs to adopt something like apple's magsafe. That thing is awesome.

The Surface tablets have it also.

And if it weren't for patents and licensing costs, they likely would!

Instead, you pay tens of dollars for a simple power cord.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Varkk posted:

That is assuming they even use the correct port to begin with. Unless the new USB plugs won't be backwards compatible.

I read a while ago about a new USB connector that could be plugged in both ways. It probably isn't compatible with the old ones, and I still haven't seen any.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

nielsm posted:

I read a while ago about a new USB connector that could be plugged in both ways. It probably isn't compatible with the old ones, and I still haven't seen any.

That's true.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

nielsm posted:

I read a while ago about a new USB connector that could be plugged in both ways. It probably isn't compatible with the old ones, and I still haven't seen any.

to be fair look at how long its taken for USB 3 to become commonplace, and they STILL throw 2.0 ports on there.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
An email came in.

"Can't access internal webpages".

Did some digging.

User is working remotely, and trying to connect to our internal wiki without connecting to our VPN.

This is two days after said user was in new-hire training where I went over the basics of connecting to our VPN, and what they might need it for. A new record!

OWLS! fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Nov 7, 2014

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma
:) : I'm sorry, I can't give out local admin rights without approval from [CTO] due to fuckwits.

:smug: : PLEASE, I'm a developer. I'll get approval.


3 loving days later and I'm steamrolling his laptop again. For gently caress's sake. Taking local admin away this time! :byewhore:

MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer
gently caress printers.

A while ago in our Xendesktop VDI, we installed Citrix universal printing and set up the clients to point to it. Users didn't like thing X and thing Y, so we turned off the universal print driver policies but kept the driver in place, albeit not in use, on the print server.

After migrating the printers to Server 2012 R2, we start seeing some weird failures to print, and my boss doesn't like "restart the print spooler, that fixes the problem" as a long-term option. Last night, after putting our new 64-bit virtual desktop image into prod, away goes all UPD components on the server.

What followed was, no fooling, an ordeal from 8 PM - 1 AM wherein the engineer that we outsource this stuff to and I struggled, along with eventually my boss, to figure out why the get-wmiobject line in our drive/printer mapping script wasn't working as it should in the script. It ran fine manually, just not at logon.

gently caress printers.

My boss shot down the idea of me and the helpdesk guy just going desk to desk, deleting the printers manually, and having them log off/back on - politics are ill towards the computers after a stressful and unhappy migration to a private cloud and some days of subsequent issues that the Powers that Be hated. Given that we were recommending not going full into ~the cloud~ and buying our own hardware in a nearby colo, it's pretty drat Kafkaesque that they're unhappy with a purchase decision upon which they overruled our recommendation.

gently caress printers.

Rename the appdata cache redirect folders for each user? I mean, that's been our step 1 for fixing weird VDI issues. We've got user profiles redirected to location A, caches to B. Deleting B fixes a lot of stuff and my boss is the one who told us to be doing that. I pitch it, and I should note at this point it's around 11:15 PM.

The next two hours were my boss and the engineer going back and forth, putting forth a fix, rebooting the desktops to pick up the fix, me testing, me reporting failure.

gently caress printers.

Eventually something finally loving worked. Testing completes at 1:05ish AM.

The best part? My boss said he didn't want to do this tonight. Since he's observant Orthodox, we don't make major changes on Fridays since he's going to be unavailable from around 4ish PM to Saturday evening. The outsourced engineer said this'd be an easy series of changes, he'd totally be able to handle it from his other job site tonight while working on both his clients.

gently caress PRINTERS

Pretty sure we could have saved about three hours if it wasn't the engineer not responding to my calls or texts, not even indicating that he was working on fixes nor commenting on fixes that I'd proposed.

gently caress
PRINTERS

Fox_Spy
Mar 19, 2006
Lifeguard of the Apocalypse
A phone call came in. Woman calls me up because her husband has died and they want to donate his computer to their church. But first, she needs me to crack his windows password and wipe his files. I make sure I have what I need and head over. I get there and the computer has no password, they never tried before calling me. It does however have a ton of nicely sorted porn. One secure delete later and I've charged for an hour and am on my way home. I like the easy jobs.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

:) : I'm sorry, I can't give out local admin rights without approval from [CTO] due to fuckwits.

:smug: : PLEASE, I'm a developer. I'll get approval.


3 loving days later and I'm steamrolling his laptop again. For gently caress's sake. Taking local admin away this time! :byewhore:

Literally everyone is a local admin of their own laptop/PC here, and it seems to work pretty well.

Of course, the party line for IT services here is that unless software is installed through our corporate tools, you're on your own, sucker. Have a problem with your PC that may be tangentially related to a non-corporate-installed piece of software? Well, then it's re-imaging time. Seems to keep people pretty well in line.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

KozmoNaut posted:

Literally everyone is a local admin of their own laptop/PC here, and it seems to work pretty well.

Of course, the party line for IT services here is that unless software is installed through our corporate tools, you're on your own, sucker. Have a problem with your PC that may be tangentially related to a non-corporate-installed piece of software? Well, then it's re-imaging time. Seems to keep people pretty well in line.

This is the policy I used to run in my previous job, but where I'm at currently, certain people don't get access any more. Some special snowflakes ended up being too special, and having their laptop re-imaged twice a month wasn't exactly ideal.

That said, I have a decent network boot server now. Maybe I could give them access again, and make some desktop shortcut they can click so their box reimages itself. On a second thought, that's a bad idea too, they'll wipe "important data" every day by "accident".

Dick Boat
Jul 3, 2009

Pulse Demon

An idiot posted:

Hi Support,

I would like to know who went into my account and DELETED my entire Recycle Bin between 6pm last night and 10am this morning? I keep files in there for safe keeping and some of them are important.

I know for 100% certainty that I did not do that.

Why the gently caress would you store files in your Recycle Bin? That's like putting a sandwich in your trash, then coming in the next day and flipping out when someone threw it away.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Anyone who does that should be fired

m.hache
Dec 1, 2004


Fun Shoe
I hope to god one of my users do that someday so I can just laugh and laugh...


then be asked to restore it from backups by the president.... ugh.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

I like how sure they are that they were still there at 6pm and that they were gone by 10am at the latest. Do they have a checklist that they go through when they arrive at/leave work that includes verifying that their recycle bin hasn't been emptied?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Dick Boat posted:

Why the gently caress would you store files in your Recycle Bin? That's like putting a sandwich in your trash, then coming in the next day and flipping out when someone threw it away.

The amount of times I've seen this is incredible. I still remember nearly 20 years ago someone explaining to me about a lady who saved _everything_ in her recycle bin. Complains about pc working really slow and throwing "random errors". Guy gets to pc, sees disk full, empties recycle bin. Lady, obviously goes mental.

Back then I thought "well, windows 95 is very new and people aren't yet used to working with it right?". Well, people still throw stuff in the trash regularly. Microsoft needs to rename that to trash. "Recycle" sounds too much like "I can use this again" to some people it seems, and not enough like "I don't want to see this again, ever".

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Dick Boat posted:

Why the gently caress would you store files in your Recycle Bin? That's like putting a sandwich in your trash, then coming in the next day and flipping out when someone threw it away.

I have had multiple users say with a completely straight face to "OMG DON'T EMPTY MY DELETED ITEMS FOLDER IN OUTLOOK I KEEP THINGS I STILL NEED IN THERE."

What the flying gently caress.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
It makes me wonder if one of those videos they sell to teach people how to use computers had instructions to use the recycle bin in that way.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

Gwaihir posted:

I have had multiple users say with a completely straight face to "OMG DON'T EMPTY MY DELETED ITEMS FOLDER IN OUTLOOK I KEEP THINGS I STILL NEED IN THERE."

What the flying gently caress.

I can sorta emphasize with users who think the "recycle" bin isn't used for items you want gone - but gently caress anyone who uses the Deleted Items folder for anything else. No sympathy.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

Dick Boat posted:

Why the gently caress would you store files in your Recycle Bin? That's like putting a sandwich in your trash, then coming in the next day and flipping out when someone threw it away.

During the bad old days as IT admin in a datacenter, I had users who would store files in the Trash or Recycle Bin because they were convinced - ABSOLUTELY convinced, could NOT be talked out of it - that files in the Trash or Recycle Bin didn't take up space on disk.

Russad
Feb 19, 2011

go3 posted:

Anyone who does that should be fired

Out of a cannon.

Into the sun.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Gwaihir posted:

I have had multiple users say with a completely straight face to "OMG DON'T EMPTY MY DELETED ITEMS FOLDER IN OUTLOOK I KEEP THINGS I STILL NEED IN THERE."

What the flying gently caress.

I had somebody ask if they could put subfolders in their Deleted Items folder so they could sort the trash and not have to delete it all at once.

Thankfully they were very amenable to my suggestion of just not deleting stuff they wanted to keep.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

I can sorta emphasize with users who think the "recycle" bin isn't used for items you want gone - but gently caress anyone who uses the Deleted Items folder for anything else. No sympathy.

No, there is no sympathy for people who think that. What do you put in your recycle bin at home? poo poo you want thrown out, you're never going to use that soda can again, you want it taken away to the dump.

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DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

mattfl posted:

No, there is no sympathy for people who think that. What do you put in your recycle bin at home? poo poo you want thrown out, you're never going to use that soda can again, you want it taken away to the dump.

Very true - To rephrase, then, it's a lot harder to politely call someone a retard with the former case. It's pretty clear cut with the latter :v:

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