Guavanaut posted:

I remember a sign in South Africa going back a few years ago (late Mandela presidency I think) saying that there were only 12 countries in the world where water from the tap is safe to drink for everyone, and South Africa was one of them.

Has South Africa regressed in water standards, was the sign bullshit propaganda, or is the map lying? (Or all of the above, I wouldn't necessarily disbelieve that.)

XMNN posted:

Have another mystery map.

BBJoey posted:

Noble Civilized Whites (and honorary whites) vs the Uncivilized Savages

Guavanaut posted:

Speaking of which, there are still places in rural Spain where people by convention do not drink the tap water. It's good enough for everything else but people still buy carboys of water from the local store for drinking. That's not red on the map though.

BBJoey posted:

Noble Civilized Whites (and honorary whites) vs the Uncivilized Savages

DrSunshine posted:

DrSunshine posted:

Randarkman posted:

I've always loved that map. Also, is Italy from something like Tuscany downwards (apart from savage Finland) the only place in Western Europe that doesen't get to be all "enlightened"?

made of bees posted:

I like how they label Ethiopia, which had an official church before the Roman Empire, as 'Corrupt Christianity'.

It's interesting that they didn't lump Islam together with every other non-Christian religion as pagan, that's a much more enlightened understanding of Islam than a lot of modern American Protestants.

Pakled posted:

Yeah, that's one of my favorite old maps.

China, the world's oldest surviving civilization, with a monarchy tracing its roots back 3/4000 years, "half-civilized."

Pakled posted:

Yeah, that's one of my favorite old maps.

China, the world's oldest surviving civilization, with a monarchy tracing its roots back 3/4000 years, "half-civilized."

Fojar38 posted:

Ireland and Scotland also appear to be stuck at "civilized." Guess where the map was made.

Pakled posted:

Yeah, that's one of my favorite old maps.

China, the world's oldest surviving civilization, with a monarchy tracing its roots back 3/4000 years, "half-civilized."

duckmaster posted:

drat this was too easy. It's total percentage of energy from renewable sources. It includes hydroelectric which as discussed is probably the most damaging of them all. Wish there was a map which excluded them. North Koreas is almost all hydroelectric.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Are there any maps where China does the same thing and points out the backwards nature of the Greater Western White Devil or something? I'd like to see some old-timey racism from someone else's perspective for a change

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

How come literally all of the former Yugoslavia is covered?

Pakled posted:

China, the world's oldest surviving civilization, with a monarchy tracing its roots back 3/4000 years, "half-civilized."

Modern Day Hercules posted:

That's not how Chinese monarchy worked. Each dynasty was pretty much a separate thing from the previous ones, to the point of having different borders and capitals and poo poo. It wasn't one connected line of succession, almost really a bunch of different countries that occupied some of the same area and generally called themselves the same thing. I'm pretty sure they really do have the oldest continuous civilization, but even if you accepted the traditional dates for the longest lived monarchy in China (zhang dynasty at something like 800 years), it'd be long but not really that impressive. Japan has them beat.

icantfindaname posted:

Ethiopia are Orthodox, which is kind of like Catholic but with a sinister middle eastern/eastern european flavor, so that's two strikes against them in the eyes of the WASPs who made thet map up

Omelette du Fromage posted:

No they aren't.

Pakled posted:

I'm sure there are, but none that I can think of right now.

On a tangentially related note, have some 20th century Japanese propaganda maps that don't exactly paint Europeans in a positive light.

BBJoey posted:

That's, uh, that's not quite America, Japan.

RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

I do like that the Japanese used an octopus to represent Imperial Russia. That's probably one of the oldest war time propaganda motifs.

RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

The Monkey Man posted:

A much better version. I love the German sausage:

icantfindaname posted:

You sure that wasn't intended as a compliment? We all know what the Japanese think of tentacles...

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Are there any maps where China does the same thing and points out the backwards nature of the Greater Western White Devil or something? I'd like to see some old-timey racism from someone else's perspective for a change

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Are there any maps where China does the same thing and points out the backwards nature of the Greater Western White Devil or something? I'd like to see some old-timey racism from someone else's perspective for a change

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Were China to concern herself only with her own advantage without showing any regard for other people's welfare, how could foreigners continue to live? Foreign products like woolen cloth and beiges rely on Chinese raw materials such as silk for their manufacturing. Had China sought only her own advantage, where would the foreigners' profit come from? The products that foreign countries need had have to import from China are too numerous to enumerate: from food products such as molasses,ginger, and cassia to useful necessities such as silk and porcelain. The imported goods from foreign countries, on the other hand, are merely playthings which can be easily dispensed with without causing any ill effect.