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Flikken posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force Surprisingly, not one Gundam. Linked for anime: http://i.imgur.com/cyJBioS.jpg
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# ? May 27, 2024 01:54 |
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Oh, wow, I had seen that helicopter before, but not alongside the cardboard cutout.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 05:52 |
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Flikken posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force Yeah I went through that before asking as nothing(indigenous) on that page looks anything remotely 'modern'. Especially by Japanese modern standards which is like 10 years beyond American modern.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 07:09 |
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VikingSkull posted:loving lol Holy poo poo look how wrong you are. You're like one of those chicks who writes letters to convicts with cute mugshots.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 07:39 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Yeah I went through that before asking as nothing(indigenous) on that page looks anything remotely 'modern'. Especially by Japanese modern standards which is like 10 years beyond American modern. As said before, they had no export market so they don't have much need outside a decent combat rifle. The 89 isn't that old really, seems to work well, and handles 5.56. There's some info on that page about a modernized carbine version with rails or something too.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 08:34 |
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Craptacular posted:Surprisingly, not one Gundam. On the other hand their Gepard clone is supposedly nicknamed the "Guntank"
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 08:43 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Holy poo poo look how wrong you are. You're like one of those chicks who writes letters to convicts with cute mugshots. where on your flight stick did the jock touch you
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 12:20 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Speaking of Japanese guns aren't howa rifles a big thing in precision shooting circles ? Also, Miroku made shotguns for Browning and rifles for Winchester. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroku_Corp.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 14:10 |
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I own a 70s vintage Weatherby Patrician pump shotgun that was manufactured by Nikko. W'by also uses Japanese manufacture today for their "value" line of guns. Never heard of pistols, though. I guess Japan is one of a handful of countries in the world that haven't manufactured a CZ-75 copy
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 15:18 |
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I just want Japan to make space guns. Real space guns. Because they're so wacky it would be wacky cool space guns
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 18:06 |
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Generation Internet posted:God, that single engine looks really weird landing on a carrier to me for some reason. Are there any other single-engine carrier planes? big
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 23:09 |
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Nice in-flight engagement.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 02:27 |
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Well it lands front-gear first, so anything else would be...tricky.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 03:27 |
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The thought of steering a Dragon Lady onto a matchbox in the ocean makes my rear end in a top hat pucker up in a bad way. That's some serious flying.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 12:20 |
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Came across a mildly amusing anecdote. In the early 90s at the beginning of Sino-Russian cooperation, the Chinese traded (among other things) 180,000 dog pelts for Su-27s. The dog populations of 3 provinces were decimated for the cause of national air defence. http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/stories/china-killed-180k-dogs-to-trade-for-russian-su-27-fighter-jet.html http://weibo.com/2615417307/BsygvwGAf#_rnd1415276730579 quote:”Back when we were importing Su-27s, Russia was also having economic difficulties. They only wanted three things: One, flashlights; two, vacuum flasks; three, dog pelt coats. 10,000 dog pelt coats, that created a lot of pressure/difficulties for us. It takes 18 dog pelts to make one dog pelt coat. So that winter we killed all the dogs in the three provinces of Henan, Shandong, etc. in order to trade for Su-27s. So dogs in China had made significant contributions to China’s military and weapons modernization.” Another reason Canada should have bought Sukhois over the F-35.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 13:29 |
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e: never mind, reading is fundamental!
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 13:34 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Another reason Canada should have bought Sukhois over the F-35. What's the beaver pelt to Flanker exchange rate?
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 15:23 |
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Scratch Monkey posted:What's the beaver pelt to Flanker exchange rate? Pretty low. People tend to either want Flanker or beaver, not both. what happened to him anyway? Or his brother for that matter? They've both effectively disappeared
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 15:24 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Pretty low. People tend to either want Flanker or beaver, not both. They are both alive and well doing Canadian things.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 15:43 |
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Flanker is most likely taking a nap. All the time.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 15:46 |
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of course henan
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 17:20 |
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 11:11 |
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All kidding aside, Russia's shooting its export business in the foot by giving the middle finger to NASA over rocket engines. As nice as it'd be for Canada to field Su-35s (I'm sure the Navy and Air Force would love to spar with them weekly), the 'savings' they'd get over buying F-35s would very likely be overshadowed by the cost of potentially having them all grounded by Putin deciding to withhold spare parts and/or support for them whenever Canada sides with the US against the So while Russia certainly is *trying* to pull off the 'you can get two of ours for every one of theirs' thing, only their BFFs are actually buying or negotiating because everyone else knows the savings comes with more string tangling than a puppet show performed by blind kids. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Nov 7, 2014 |
# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:18 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:whenever Canada sides with the US against the Soviets
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:43 |
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Ugh. Editing, even if it's kind of ideologically valid of late.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:51 |
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You would have to be high on crack to think Canada would ever even briefly contemplate buying Russian fighters.* *Rob Ford is my pre-emptive defense if it turns out that Canada has briefly considered buying Russian fighters Mortabis fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Nov 7, 2014 |
# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:53 |
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It just costs too much to change all the letterheads and signs back.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:54 |
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:05 |
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Mortabis posted:You would have to be high on crack to think Canada would ever even briefly contemplate buying Russian fighters.* Pretty sure the Keystone pipeline pre-won any 'contest' in favor of the F-35. As I said before, though - Canada's actually got the best reason of any potential F-35 customer to go with it simply due to ease of logistics. Japan and other overseas customers are at the mercy of how quickly a C-17 flies. Canada can just ask them to put the poo poo they need in a glorified U-Haul and any needed techs/support could conceivably hop on a L-M corporate jet and be back for dinner.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:19 |
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Honestly, I can see it shifting depending on how the election goes next year. The Conservatives depend a lot on blowing Alberta and the oil industry. Not sure how big a priority Keystone would be under a Liberal or NDP (it won't be NDP) government. .. Maybe Prime Minister Trudeau 2.0 won't care enough about Keystone to force us to by overpriced, underperforming Lockmart trash. I can dream at least
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 17:08 |
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At this stage with this much money into it? I very much doubt it. The sunk cost fallacy is practically the definition of politics, after all Politics and MMOs.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 18:00 |
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I don't even know why buying Russian planes is even being discussed as a remote possibility, let alone a good idea. It isn't like they haven't been colossal belligerent shitheads lately. We've been piling sanctions on them and it's not like Trudeau would reverse course on that if the Russians keep threatening most of Eastern Europe. It just seems like blind tech fetishism (which lets be frank, we have no idea if the pak-fa is actually even all that good). Why would we bother with Su-35s either when the super hornet is comparable, something we're familiar with, and about the same cost. It would be the dumbest decision to go with Russian planes, granted DND and the govt have a long history of dumb decisions but dumb from a direction so far from the usual dumbness it would be impossible.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 18:18 |
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Honestly, I can see it shifting depending on how the election goes next year. Joke's on you, BQ will win the election.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 18:25 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:As nice as it'd be for Canada to field Su-35s (I'm sure the Navy and Air Force would love to spar with them weekly), the 'savings' they'd get over buying F-35s would very likely be overshadowed by the cost of potentially having them all grounded by Putin deciding to withhold spare parts and/or support for them whenever Canada sides with the US against the There's also the fact that Russian jet engines tend to have a much shorter lifetime than American or European ones.
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Blistex posted:It just costs too much to change all the letterheads and signs back. Actually I was in Moscow last year and this really seems to be the case, but for buildings. Stars and hammers and sickles fuckin everywhere, mostly on building facades or iron work.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 19:01 |
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The Republicans can probably force Keystone XL through now, and they want it built whether or not Canada buys F-35s. It benefits both countries economically.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 19:08 |
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Oh no Mark Ruffalo is gonna hulk out
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 19:22 |
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Mortabis posted:The Republicans can probably force Keystone XL through now, and they want it built whether or not Canada buys F-35s. It benefits both countries economically. Not so much the US. If they could pick "helping the country right next to us sell oil for better prices on the international market" or "not helping then and getting that oil at a slightly lower price than standard" then the USA would pick #2. I have no idea how this fits in with Republican politics. I imagine they are all for it, because some people on the other side were against it.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 02:13 |
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It's a big dollar pork project that makes it look like they take defense seriously...are you kidding? Bob Dole doesn't need Viagra anymore, he blows his load glancing at F-35 pictures.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 04:20 |
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Godholio posted:It's a big dollar pork project that makes it look like they take defense seriously...are you kidding? Bob Dole doesn't need Viagra anymore, he blows his load glancing at F-35 pictures. Most legislators in either party are going to vote for procuring more of any given expensive plane/tank/boat, both as symbols of being strong on defense, but also because of the jobs/economic side. Being able to say "this vote for the F-35 program means XXX jobs that are staying right here in Bumfuck, USA" is a huge asset every other November. That's before you even start to look at the money- above-board campaign contributions or otherwise. There's a vanishingly small number of elected officials on either side of the aisle who are both serious about defense reform and in a position to do something about it.
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