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Cubey posted:Good, hopefully that means Danny's next album won't be a giant letdown like Old was. Old is probs one of my favourite albums in rap, so I disagree, just listen to Float On and tell me that is not the most mortal thing you have ever heard coming from the immortal king of pills that is Danny Brown. It is such a shockingly stark, yet perfect ending to an album, probably my fave closer ever.
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Another Person posted:Old is probs one of my favourite albums in rap, so I disagree, just listen to Float On and tell me that is not the most mortal thing you have ever heard coming from the immortal king of pills that is Danny Brown. It is such a shockingly stark, yet perfect ending to an album, probably my fave closer ever. Sorry but the man already had the best rap closer ever in 30.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 05:42 |
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Another Person posted:Old is probs one of my favourite albums in rap, so I disagree, just listen to Float On and tell me that is not the most mortal thing you have ever heard coming from the immortal king of pills that is Danny Brown. It is such a shockingly stark, yet perfect ending to an album, probably my fave closer ever. I think an album can still be great and a letdown, if your expectations are just higher than what was actually released. I was a bit disappointed in Old even though it was a great album. I just preferred XXX and The Hybrid.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 06:25 |
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alansmithee posted:I think an album can still be great and a letdown, if your expectations are just higher than what was actually released. Oh yeah, I wasn't saying the dudes opinion was wrong. I was just stating my opinion. Didn't really give much of an argument for why tho, hah. I like how weird it all is. A lot of it feels really tense, depressing and anxious. Tracks like Torture, Lonely, and Float On are just really sad feeling. I like sad guy rap a lot when it actually goes into a proper topic and handles it well. Danny does an amazing job of that imo. Then you get stuff like Break It (Go) which is just a solid banger. Love that track.I really like how it is loaded with the EDM beats towards the back, then Float On after it. I think of it as the thoughts of Danny through the day, like dealing with his issues of his life, past and emotions, and then you get to the ravey parts and it is like the heights of one of his shows. poo poo is going wild, all over the place and it picks up. Then the show ends, Float On hits, and it is like him thinking "I can't do this forever, man. How did I even get here form where I was? Where am I going next?" It is like an existential crisis of what he is supposed to be, and he just kinda hides away from it all with drugs. I really didn't like the structure of it when I first heard it, even though I liked the tracks. Then that sorta hit me how it was put together, and watching all his issues with poo poo like lean last year really put it all into perspective. Think I've listened to Old a few hundred times since it came out now. I've come around to think it was poorly structured to extremely well structured. But that is just my weird conjecture poo poo doing it for me. I can definitely get how people would be disappointed if they were expecting something bigger, or something closer to XXX. Never been able to really give The Hybrid the chance it deserves, I always put it on and then think "Man, I wanna listen to Old so much now". I came in after a short while after XXX and never knew the Hybrid existed for a while, so I've kinda missed it. I just spent the whole time listening to XXX over and over because that album is also a killer. What are the best tracks on it so I can give them a shot and then maybe listen to it all after I realise there are things to look forward to? Maybe crush my desire to switch right over to Old again.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 07:19 |
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alansmithee posted:I thought that was just Rob Sonic? For a bit of background, they had an album out before together (or the group did), and Rob Sonic had a couple albums out on Def Jux that are pretty solid. I also think he was maybe in the Atoms family but not 100% sure (I know Hangar 18 were). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=709pgZ_BlmI
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Another Person posted:What are the best tracks on it so I can give them a shot and then maybe listen to it all after I realise there are things to look forward to? Maybe crush my desire to switch right over to Old again. Generation Rx Greatest Rapper Ever I'm out Drinks on me Re-up But really it's all good
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 07:51 |
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Another Person posted:Oh yeah, I wasn't saying the dudes opinion was wrong. I was just stating my opinion. Didn't really give much of an argument for why tho, hah. I like how weird it all is. A lot of it feels really tense, depressing and anxious. Tracks like Torture, Lonely, and Float On are just really sad feeling. I like sad guy rap a lot when it actually goes into a proper topic and handles it well. Danny does an amazing job of that imo. Then you get stuff like Break It (Go) which is just a solid banger. Love that track.I really like how it is loaded with the EDM beats towards the back, then Float On after it. I think of it as the thoughts of Danny through the day, like dealing with his issues of his life, past and emotions, and then you get to the ravey parts and it is like the heights of one of his shows. poo poo is going wild, all over the place and it picks up. Then the show ends, Float On hits, and it is like him thinking "I can't do this forever, man. How did I even get here form where I was? Where am I going next?" It is like an existential crisis of what he is supposed to be, and he just kinda hides away from it all with drugs. First thing is it's not really like Old at all. It's much more in the vein of Krit Wuz Here, or the old Scarface/Z-ro street stuff. Productionwise it's not exactly like those (although there's some similarities) but the content is very similar. Has that same depressing tone. Which means that if you go into it expecting the lighter, bouncier tone of some of his later stuff you'll probably be disappointed. My main problem with Old is I don't like the festival songs nearly as much-dude's too good of a rapper to have his stuff obscured by allt he uptempo EDM beats. Also my list of songs I'd pick from Hybrid are almost entirely different than the other dude's, but that shows the strength of the album imo. If I were to pick a handful I'd say Greatest Rapper Ever, New Era, Guitar Solo, The Nana Song, and probably Juno. But as was said, they're really all good. And all that said, I don't think any of his albums are bad in the least, all of them are great (even the Black & Blue EP which is largely ignored). Also I'll probably relisten to Old soon to see if I think it's any better structured. Maybe I just didn't give it enough time.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 08:17 |
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Bobby Shmurda is having way too much fun dancing by himself in his music videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6urRX_szKQ
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 08:29 |
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Yeah, listening to The Hybrid proper now and I am a drat mug for not giving this a proper listen through before, always gotta be stubborn and stick to what I know don't I? It's no Old for me, but drat it is real loving good. Probs gonna give it a second run through when it ends
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 09:00 |
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Thank God is loving good too, probably my favorite. generation rx is close
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 09:39 |
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I just didn't like the production on Old at all. I don't really have a better way to put it than that. XXX was awesome and I was really excited for Old after ODB and Grown Up came out, but the album just did nothing for me whatsoever. Maybe I'll revisit it at some point and realize it's actually a masterpiece that I had overlooked or something, but as I'm still very new to rap in general I feel that my time is better spent exploring the music of other artists I'm less familiar with than re-listening to something I already heard and disliked.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 10:43 |
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i'm probably really in the minority when i say i didn't really like xxx, despite it being on in my car for ages so i know nearly every song by heart, nowadays there's only about 3 songs i'll actually listen to. the first half of old is one of the best things ever, the second half a bit of a letdown with the occasional serious banger, but i'm ok with that.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 11:12 |
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So I have a friend who is an idiot and thinks Gucci Mane only has a "retarded flow". I'mma send him some songs to show Guwop actually has tons of different flows, any particular suggestion of tracks?
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 14:50 |
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Perfect Hair is Perfect. Really grandiose. Anybody else enjoy it? One of those albums with a super strong and end. Track in 9 in particular
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Another Person posted:Old is probs one of my favourite albums in rap, so I disagree, just listen to Float On and tell me that is not the most mortal thing you have ever heard coming from the immortal king of pills that is Danny Brown. It is such a shockingly stark, yet perfect ending to an album, probably my fave closer ever. Float On is honestly one of my favorite rap songs of all time. It hits the same note that Book of Soul does, which is incredibly hard to pull off IMO.
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alansmithee posted:And all that said, I don't think any of his albums are bad in the least, all of them are great (even the Black & Blue EP which is largely ignored). Also I'll probably relisten to Old soon to see if I think it's any better structured. Maybe I just didn't give it enough time. Yeah I really enjoyed the collab with Black Milk, that guy can do no wrong Old had to bring some different to the table to differentiate if from XXX and I feel that's why some of the side B tracks are so lairy; I respect that but I'm not a fan of quite a few tracks on Old and don't think XXX being considered a better complete album is contentious.
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VisAbsoluta posted:So I have a friend who is an idiot and thinks Gucci Mane only has a "retarded flow". I'mma send him some songs to show Guwop actually has tons of different flows, any particular suggestion of tracks? Your friend is right hth. I mean even among dudes who like him, I don't think he was ever really considered to have a very varied delivery or be some good technical rapper. Faux-rear end Nonsense posted:Perfect Hair is Perfect. Really grandiose. Anybody else enjoy it? One of those albums with a super strong and end. Track in 9 in particular And this year is actually shaping up to be a lot better than I think most people were expecting (including myself). I think there's not as many strong releases as last year (which had a ton), and some of the more high-profile things out this year disappointed, but there's actually been a lot of decent albums out the last couple months or so, and a few things that I've got on my radar that I've just not given the time to fully listen to yet.
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VisAbsoluta posted:So I have a friend who is an idiot and thinks Gucci Mane only has a "retarded flow". I'mma send him some songs to show Guwop actually has tons of different flows, any particular suggestion of tracks? Dope Boys all day every day
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alansmithee posted:I mean even among dudes who like him, I don't think he was ever really considered to have a very varied delivery or be some good technical rapper. Huh, I'm not talking about being technical, lyrical or anything like that. He does have lots of different flows.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 15:53 |
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Speaking of Aesop Rock, somebody made a mashup album of him and Tom Waits if anyone is bored and interested. http://aesopwaits.bandcamp.com/releases
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VisAbsoluta posted:Huh, I'm not talking about being technical, lyrical or anything like that. He does have lots of different flows. Eh. Have your friend listen to "Me" and then "Hurry", I'm a gigantic Gucci fan and even I wouldn't say he has a ton of different flows but he can totally go off on occasion (Hurry, Can't Handle Me, etc)
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VisAbsoluta posted:Huh, I'm not talking about being technical, lyrical or anything like that. He does have lots of different flows. I mean, I can find you a random rear end song where he uses a different flow than on most of his poo poo (every rapper has a couple songs where they try something really different tho), but Gucci usually keeps it basic and delivers his lines either faster or slower.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 17:23 |
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i thought the retard flow combined with gucci-isms was his entire charm?
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 17:24 |
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Cubey posted:Good, hopefully that means Danny's next album won't be a giant letdown like Old was. ive been following danny brown ever since i played a detroit house party with him in 2007 and you suck, old is fantastic
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 19:06 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:Speaking of Aesop Rock, somebody made a mashup album of him and Tom Waits if anyone is bored and interested. Holy poo poo, thanks for this. It's cool how the percussion tightens the whole thing up but somehow retains that messy Tom Waits lurch. Then the flow is a little hurried so you've got a slight off-kilter sound coming in from both sides. Faux-Ass Nonsense fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:Speaking of Aesop Rock, somebody made a mashup album of him and Tom Waits if anyone is bored and interested. This works surprisingly well.
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# ? Nov 8, 2014 20:59 |
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alansmithee posted:My main problem with Old is I don't like the festival songs nearly as much-dude's too good of a rapper to have his stuff obscured by allt he uptempo EDM beats. That's a pretty hollow criticism considering the album is literally divided by theme. With that said I think Danny was kind of put in a lose-lose, but handled it wonderfully. People want stuff to sound more like the stuff they liked, but also criticize artists who don't "evolve" their sound (whatever that actually means). I think Danny hit a nice sweet spot between those conflicting desires. Also mandatory "hawt drat" at Danny + el-P
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 00:34 |
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HMM is really good. Whales is hilarious. A fundraiser concert for the bowling alley!?
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 00:47 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ed5osQYvU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0ijOe3sGEk random danny and el p for yas
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Quantum of Phallus posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ed5osQYvU well, that second one is a necro beat actually
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 01:11 |
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yah i just meant verses not beats e: prayin for another danny brown x mfn collab this hot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ls0MaUTrU
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Quantum of Phallus posted:yah i just meant verses not beats they are both on a track on heems' nehru jackets also they should do more together
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VisAbsoluta posted:So I have a friend who is an idiot and thinks Gucci Mane only has a "retarded flow". I'mma send him some songs to show Guwop actually has tons of different flows, any particular suggestion of tracks? Gucci Mane Faded = best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIBzWu_IAQ I love this one even though v-nasty has the world's most annoying voice ever & should not rap/act tough ever. Seriously just listen to this one and skip over the parts with a girl's voice in it. Gucci Mane & Big Sean - Brought out them Racks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVCga2VOJr0 This is great, it's everything I like about the man Gucci Mane. I feel like i'm in a video game watching this. I really like Gucci Mane North Pole, for some reason, even though it's the world's most depressing song ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q-VDqUxpcU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90HUOD5b8EI It's goin' down reminds me of college, exactly. college was literally exactly like this for me. Not really, but you know what I mean. They played this at Frat/Sorority initiation week at college. Kreayshawn should have just made an album full of songs just like "Gucci Gucci". Seriously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4 I would have bought that album by a female rapper.. there's a phrase I never thought I'd say. ILoveMakonnen is pretty bad, but great for a fat guy with bad hair.. I like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avFq9errZCk This is literally the type of song that Drake was put on this earth to make.. his flow matches it exactly. You know how there was this big deal a few years back about how Drake isn't hard, & isn't badass, & everyone was making fun of him for basically not being Jay-Z even though he's signed with YoungMoney & has done plenty of professional records with Jay? Yeah no he is not a tuff-guy. He is made to make stuff exactly like this. TheWeeknd - King of the Fallen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXBcwyMUrcU Last, and greatest: TheWeeknd goes in with all the things I love about him: sex, drugs & rock-n-roll. JK everyone. Not those things. Girls, brags & disses. I am not feeling the new Big Sean joint. He is just not that good of a rapper. the kid sounds like he inhaled a helium balloon before every piece of work he promotes.
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 01:44 |
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Dear god
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 01:53 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ok7SpbRhbA&t=32s
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 01:54 |
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El-P kinda look like Tim Heidecker in this
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http://gotitforcheap.tumblr.com/post/101648950239/im-dying
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:That's a pretty hollow criticism considering the album is literally divided by theme. And Danny himself has talked about how he's changed his sound to cater to different audiences, it's not like it's some natural evolution. Dude still makes good music so w/e.
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# ? Nov 9, 2014 02:29 |
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What's the new Big Sean joint?
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the one with the football music vid that has kanye i think? i dunno, havent heard it. sleeping on big sean for a reason.
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