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Burkion posted:If he keeps his memories and emotions and poo poo and it's basically a revival of the character as a Cyberman, gently caress, why not, make him a goddamn companion. On this topic I keep wondering if the season will end with the Master becoming the Doctor's new companion or at least joining along in the TARDIS a la Scream of the Shalka. I'm sure it'd require a really contrived bullshit reason to set it up but obviously it's not like that would be unusual for this show. Plus if Moffat does actually remember he set up that the Doctor is supposed to be trying to find Gallifrey I like the thought of them working together to try and find it.
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HD DAD posted:Actually, the Amy/Rory thing I'm 99% sure has been debunked. This sounds like the worst idea ever. 
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If Nicholas Courtney were still alive, I would be down. But he isn't so I think it's gonna be in bad taste if they do it.
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Yeah, that's a really awful idea.
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Chairman Capone posted:On this topic I keep wondering if the season will end with the Master becoming the Doctor's new companion or at least joining along in the TARDIS a la Scream of the Shalka. I'm sure it'd require a really contrived bullshit reason to set it up but obviously it's not like that would be unusual for this show. Plus if Moffat does actually remember he set up that the Doctor is supposed to be trying to find Gallifrey I like the thought of them working together to try and find it. This sounds a bit like the arc plot for the TV show that was to follow the movie: the Doctor goes searching for his missing father, Ulysses, while being constantly dogged by his brother, the Master.
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HD DAD posted:He's described as having a kind of "punch the air" moment, so I think he's probably able to mentally fight against his cyber-takeover. He turns around and orders UNIT five rounds rapid at the other Cybermen.
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Spoilers Below posted:This sounds a bit like the arc plot for the TV show that was to follow the movie: the Doctor goes searching for his missing father, Ulysses, while being constantly dogged by his brother, the Master. He was going to take a walk through Dublin city centre? 
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Don't be silly. It was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ4c1X5ene8
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Episode clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzeWM4ZPRc
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I've worked out who Seb is. He's George Osborne. They're identical.
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Metal Loaf posted:I've worked out who Seb is. Its going to be another Clara that was created during last season.
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Metal Loaf posted:I've worked out who Seb is. People were making that joke when he was on Skins, at the very least. At least as Ollie Reeder he didn't look like Gideon.
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Crusader posted:Episode clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzeWM4ZPRc In parts of that video Seb has mannerisms identical to that of Tennant Doc. Still no clue on who Seb is meant to be though.
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Senor Tron posted:In parts of that video Seb has mannerisms identical to that of Tennant Doc. Still no clue on who Seb is meant to be though. I was thinking the exact same thing. It was eerie how much be seemed like Ten.
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Nov 8, 2014 01:28
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Could be hilarious if Seb is the Doctor's data ghost in the Matrix.
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night before the episode airs and people have seen it where's the full synopsis in this thread... come on somebody spoil everything
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Nov 8, 2014 01:35
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People are being retarded and respecting the request not to spoil poo poo. That said, it'd be pretty funny if the hints they are dropping are all complete bullshit anyway.
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HD DAD posted:People are being retarded and respecting the request not to spoil poo poo. I read the spoiler thread and I have no idea what's happening in the finale. Apparently I'm reading the wrong thread.
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TL posted:It was eerie how much be seemed like Ten. He's the Valeyard. The humanoid Ten didn't want to die so he found a way to team up with the Master and cheat death.
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PriorMarcus posted:He's the Valeyard. The humanoid Ten didn't want to die so he found a way to team up with the Master and cheat death. I'd be fine with that.
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PriorMarcus posted:He's the Valeyard. The humanoid Ten didn't want to die so he found a way to team up with the Master and cheat death. Honestly that's the least retarded thing they could do. It would explain potentially how the doctor can be the Master's boyfriend as well help explain how the Master escaped Gallifrey.
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PriorMarcus posted:He's the Valeyard. The humanoid Ten didn't want to die so he found a way to team up with the Master and cheat death. This, would be awesome? It would tie up two dangling plot threads so people would finally shut up about them.
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Here's the real thing that bothers me, WTF is the Master's interest in Clara anyways?! The major thing Clara did was alter the timeline so the Doctor wouldn't die at Trenzelore. That and she spread herself through the Doctor's timeline in order to save him from The Great Intelligence. You'd think the Master of all people would be pretty drat happy about the Doctor dying there. Why go to all the effort to ensure that the Doctor would meet Clara, only for Clara to save his life?! Then we have the preview with Clara telling a bunch of Cybermen that Clara Oswald never existed... I really can't see how they can resolve this in a way that isn't stupid.
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Teek posted:This, would be awesome? It would tie up two dangling plot threads so people would finally shut up about them. They would never do that (even though I think it's a good idea too) because handydoc was already the valeyard in a comic book and I doubt they would take a major plot point from a comic published years ago.
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Shadoer posted:Here's the real thing that bothers me, Nemesis characters never want to actually see the hero dead, they lose all purpose that way.
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Xibanya posted:They would never do that (even though I think it's a good idea too) because handydoc was already the valeyard in a comic book and I doubt they would take a major plot point from a comic published years ago. No he wasn't. In the comics Forgotten it was (Spoiler because it's comic spoilers) It was just a parasite that attached itself to the Doctor. It was just messing with him for the fun of it.
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Xibanya posted:They would never do that (even though I think it's a good idea too) because handydoc was already the valeyard in a comic book and I doubt they would take a major plot point from a comic published years ago. Why not? Big Finish and the show share plot lines all the time, which is even stranger when you consider that Big Finish needs approval from the boys in charge for their scripts and yet there's some blatant stuff. The first time it jumped out at me, the Eight Doctor had to completely wipe Charley's mind and remove all memory of the Doctor, or else she would die. Donna Noble style, done the same year (technically a few months ahead of the S4 finale). There's a dozen other examples for all the other doctors. The BBC/powers that be don't seem to care.
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Xibanya posted:They would never do that (even though I think it's a good idea too) because handydoc was already the valeyard in a comic book and I doubt they would take a major plot point from a comic published years ago. In addition to what Shadoer said, the first two season finales of the revival borrowed stuff from the 8th Doctor comic strip, not to mention Human Nature outright adapting a book.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if we count Tennant regenerating into himself as him being both the Eleventh and Twelth Doctor then from that certain point of view then HandTen/Valeyard would fit into what we've been told before, right? Between the Twelth and final incarnation?
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Turns out Seb wasn't anyone.
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Yeah, what the hell was that. Multiple people who saw the episode hyped a reveal, guess they were just yanking people's chains.
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Well, the season is over and I don't mind being spoiled for Christmas a bit, back to the spoiler thread! I guess this more or less confirms that Jenna Coleman is leaving after Christmas. I don't even know what on earth they're going to do with her in one more episode that won't water down their goodbye from the finale. It'll be interesting to see what the plan is for the next companion. Hopefully it's just a person of some kind; I liked teacher Clara a lot more than I liked Impossible Girl Clara.
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It really doesn't confirm Clara leaving, but it would be extremely dumb if she stuck around after that finale.
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Mokinokaro posted:It really doesn't confirm Clara leaving, but it would be extremely dumb if she stuck around after that finale. Given the show runner I'd guess she's sticking around then.
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Bicyclops posted:Hopefully it's just a person of some kind; I liked teacher Clara a lot more than I liked Impossible Girl Clara. I was hoping for CyberDan. "It's so cold. My existence is a mockery of life." "Quiet down, P.E.!"
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He could then grab Dalek Oswin and have a cyborg Odd Couple.
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I just want CyberBrig to pop up and save the day every couple of episodes. No explanation whatsoever.
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Mokinokaro posted:It really doesn't confirm Clara leaving, but it would be extremely dumb if she stuck around after that finale. I'd lay odds that she's leaving. She's been evasive about it in interviews, but in this one, they do directly ask her what her plans are for post-Doctor Who, and her response isn't anything like "Well, I won't have to think about that for awhile." (It's the last question they ask.) http://www.instyle.co.uk/celebrity/news/jenna-coleman-talked-to-us-about-life-on-doctor-who-and-why-shell-never-go-blonde
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HD DAD posted:I just want CyberBrig to pop up and save the day every couple of episodes. No explanation whatsoever.
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