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My Imaginary GF posted:China's having a purge already due to its slowing economic growth. Unless you feel Xi Jinping's anti-corrupt campaign is anything approaching a genuine attempt at reform and not a move to consolidate his power base, in which case I'd call you hopelessly naive. So when's the war scheduled to start?
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WarpedNaba posted:His power base is basically Ave! Bossa Nova, similis bossa seneca! from top to bottom. They would do very unpleasant things if there was even a hint of serious reform to the current system. Who's they? Let's look at some hints of serious reform: http://www.eastbysoutheast.com/yunnan-corruption/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dian_Lake http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/world/asia/the-new-victims-of-chinas-war-on-corruption.html?_r=0
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Lol Q1 2013 every province reported above average gdp growth.
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fart simpson posted:So when's the war scheduled to start? Eh probably never (if you mean between the US/China), it is probably going to lead to some skirmishes in the South China Sea between China and its neighbors though.
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Woah, two wars on one page? I thought we were talking about a civil war!
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Arglebargle III posted:Who's they? Let's look at some hints of serious reform: It's a stretch to call that reform, there's no changes to the system involved. It's more a case of actually enforcing existing rules. Now, the whole "Rule of Law" thing coming out of the Fourth Plenum, that sounds more like reform. Discussed it with my cadre students, here's what they told me: 1) Governments of all levels are now forbidden from interfering with any court cases 2) Judges can no longer meet any involved parties in a case outside of formal meetings 3) Judges will be held responsible for any cases they try for their whole life 4) Government departments must publicly display the rights of citizens using their services Seems like good stuff, though I'm pretty cynical about how far 2) and especially 1) will be implemented. If they were implemented, though, it'd be a step in the right direction for once.
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Grand Fromage posted:What if Mao was gay and black? don't post my fantasies tia
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This is a good article for raging monoloids like you: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/nov/06/-sp-china-ghost-city-kangbashi-ordos-re-education-campaign
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Are there any China threads which aren't ~ten posters looking at their watches and announcing "any minute now that house of cards will topple onto the heads of every street shitter"?
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blueyedevil posted:Are there any China threads which aren't ~ten posters looking at their watches and announcing "any minute now that house of cards will topple onto the heads of every street shitter"? English threads? There probably isn't. Anyway if you come across one let me know. You should check out Michael Pettis China blog. He post often and each update usually have civil and long discussion.
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whatever7 posted:English threads? There probably isn't. Anyway if you come across one let me know. You should check out Michael Pettis China blog. He post often and each update usually have civil and long discussion. Great recommendation, thanks. I never read blogs but realise I probably should, any other recommended China blogs of similar quality?
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Arglebargle III posted:This is a good article for raging monoloids like you: quote:Since an economic downturn hit Ordos, fuelled largely by municipal debt, the government has been offering less compensation to new residents. I'm leaning towards, "No, Ordos will not be able to attain a capitalist class before thr money runs out." I don't see anything in the article which indicates systemic reform; I see much of the same, with slowing rates. Unless your nation is food secure, subsidizing urban consumption over rural subsistance does economic harm if it does not result in human development to a youth and young adult/professional demographic. By subsidizing the urbanization of welfare-dependant individuals, you're creating long-term debt without expanding your tax base. I fail to see how the Ordos situation is sustainable, and could be translated into economic stability for higher tier cities.
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Seems that Hong Kong's big property developers are damaging the rule of law.SCMP posted:Misleading and unfair sales practices by developers and property agents remain common despite a new law introduced by the government more than a year ago that aimed to combat them, Hong Kong’s consumer rights watchdog has found.  Because the comments on a article about the protests look like this:  And like, 20 of them.
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So, this happened http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/11/11/china-panics-over-ladies-man-putin.html quote:Chinese official are in a rush to block footage of Russian President Vladimir Putin acting chivalrously toward President Xi Jinping’s wife. At a Monday night concert at the APEC conference, Putin offered Xi's wife, Peng Liyuan, his coat on a chilly night. Putin–who is apparently considered a heartthrob among many Chinese women–made Xi look like a weak, inattentive spouse, according to the Associated Press. Chinese citizens began to make a series of off-color, critical jokes about Xi after watching footage of the gesture on state broadcaster CCTV. Chinese officials panicked and removed any access to the video from the Web, as well as any references to it on social media. “The public show of consideration by Putin may provide fodder for jokes, which the big boss probably does not like,” said Beijing-based commentator Zhang Lifan. Will Putin be asked to apologize for hurting the feelings the Chinese people?
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pentyne posted:So, this happened How terrified do you have to be of your grip on power that you censor things like this, clearly drawing a thousand times more interest to the event than would ever be possible otherwise? The Chinese surveillance and censorship regime is such a wild thing.
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Cocoa Ninja posted:How terrified do you have to be of your grip on power that you censor things like this, clearly drawing a thousand times more interest to the event than would ever be possible otherwise?
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Ditocoaf posted:Is that sort of censorship-backlash effect nearly as strong on an internet where you can "remove any references to it on social media"? The problem is the state media broadcast it and it circulated around for hours, and only after social media started making jokes about it did the state freak out and pull the footage and start censoring any mention of it, well after anyone who would hear about it probably heard about it. Plus the act of censoring it turned what was a non-story into an international news story being reported on around the world. pentyne fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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Nov 11, 2014 22:50
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You guys acting like you'd like it if Putin one up'd yall on TV.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:58
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Anyone catch the latest Sinica? Jeremy's diatribe about a handjob shack on every corner was loving  tastic. It was a generally interesting episode, though too short to be as informative as normal, but that part really had me laughing out loud. Jeremy is the China-based expat of my heart.
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Nov 11, 2014 23:07
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Handjob shack? Details, man.
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pentyne posted:So, this happened No, but it puts China firmly between Russia & the United States, if not puts them as leaning towards the United States in the event of a conflict. Yes this is how actual serious people in America have analyzed the issue.
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Tom Smykowski posted:Handjob shack? Details, man. http://popupchinese.com/lessons/sinica/damned-lies-statistics-and-china
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Tom Smykowski posted:You guys acting like you'd like it if Putin one up'd yall on TV. He's the president of a loose coalition of robber barons, oligarchs and moguls. Pretty sure he's one up'd me all to hell already.
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Cool I'm listening to that Sinica right now. Reminds me of this: http://www.economist.com/news/china/21570749-gini-out-bottle
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http://theaviationist.com/2014/11/06/j-31-zhuhai-airshow-practice/ Someone there who can find local source material, I'm curious, is "Falcon Eagle" is a poor translation into English of a different set of Chinese words? EDIT: This is quoted in the article - "鹘鹰"
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ReindeerF posted:http://theaviationist.com/2014/11/06/j-31-zhuhai-airshow-practice/ Sounds like someone just took each character on its own. That'll get you halfway there.
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sincx posted:According to Wiktionary, 鹘 refers to a type of pigeon. Take that how you will.
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ReindeerF posted:I wasn't sure if it could get funnier than "Falcon Eagle" but I'm truly hoping they named it the Pigeon. Must be a hint about its strategic bombing capabilities. I am not familiar with this bird name either. According to this link, its just a fansy name for Falcon ( 隼) http://www.baike.com/wiki/%E9%9A%BC%5B%E9%9A%BC%E5%BD%A2%E7%9B%AE%E9%B8%9F%E7%B1%BB%5D
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Yeah, it's gotta be one of those words that doesn't translate well literally, but makes perfect sense figuratively. I was just curious if any of the Chinese experts here could decipher it.
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ReindeerF posted:Yeah, it's gotta be one of those words that doesn't translate well literally, but makes perfect sense figuratively. I was just curious if any of the Chinese experts here could decipher it. I would imagine they made it a two character name because one character names sound bad in Chinese but couldn't come up with anything good to pair together other than "Falcon Eagle". You don't need a college degree to get into the PLAAF.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:I would imagine they made it a two character name because one character names sound bad in Chinese but couldn't come up with anything good to pair together other than "Falcon Eagle". No, it's a perfectly cromulent word, with the sense of trained birds of prey collectively, like "raptor". 鹰鹘 (with the characters reversed) appears in some old texts. Please refrain from making uninformed jabs at the Chinese language as it really hurts the feelings of the Chinese people.
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鹘 wat6 gwat1 hu2 gu3 - falcon; turtledove 鹰 jing1 ying1 - eagle; falcon So we could have the Falcon Falcon right here.
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You guys should stick to press releases and figures. Stay away from language issues.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diERlnUUf9M It ends abruptly - did Xi really walk out?
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caberham posted:You guys should stick to press releases and figures. Stay away from language issues. Not yet. I'm waiting to hear My Imaginary GF weigh in on this issue.
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caberham posted:You guys should stick to press releases and figures. Stay away from language issues. yeah, stick to what you're good--err, stick to what... you like talking about
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