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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I might get it, just because I want AC with tall buildings and a seriously important time in world history again.

edit: 3 kinda did, but you only participated in it in the most superficial ways, except for the bizarre Paul Revere escort mission.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 10, 2014

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Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Snuffman posted:

Me too. :(

But at the end of the day, there's really nothing quite like the AssCreed games.

Sometimes you just want to run along the rooftops, jump down and stab a man in the neck, hide in a bale of hay and stab the guard who investigates the first guard's death and then cause chaos by throwing money on the floor and poisoning/berserking a random person. It might be the same game I've been buying since AssCreed 1 but I'm hard pressed to think of another game that does that style of gameplay nearly as well.

Though now that I see that typed out it looks an awful lot like the argument my friends who buy the new Call of Duty year after year use...

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Samurai Sanders posted:

I might get it, just because I want AC with tall buildings and a seriously important time in world history again.

edit: 3 kinda did, but you only participated in it in the most superficial ways, except for the bizarre Paul Revere escort mission.

And the buildings and synch points were so tiny. It felt silly seeing Connor perch on a little waist-high stake sticking out of the ground from atop a hill and having the camera pan around dramatically as if he were on the top of the world.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Don Gato posted:

Sometimes you just want to run along the rooftops, jump down and stab a man in the neck, hide in a bale of hay and stab the guard who investigates the first guard's death and then cause chaos by throwing money on the floor and poisoning/berserking a random person. It might be the same game I've been buying since AssCreed 1 but I'm hard pressed to think of another game that does that style of gameplay nearly as well.

Though now that I see that typed out it looks an awful lot like the argument my friends who buy the new Call of Duty year after year use...

Yeah but CoD is literally the SAME loving poo poo over and over again except with NEW WEAPONS WOW

You get entirely different timelines to gently caress with in the AC games.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'
Honestly I keep playing the AC games because I feel like they're the only ones out there lately from AAA studios that cater to mature adults rather than 14 year olds, and that isn't a shooter.

I mean, gently caress, look at Freedom Cry. It actually was willing to take on the issue of the slave trade and how horrible it was. Even with Adewale rescuing people non-stop there were always more, and there always would be. You can't actually be the hero for everyone. Not to mention the whole scene with the slaves drowning on the sinking ship. It's the sort of thing I expect to find only from indie studios these days, but Ubisoft keeps churning it out every year.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

I'm really interested in that screen with all the other Assassins on it. Has Ubisoft shown anything about those?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Replaying Black Flag, and goddamn the real world poo poo is seriously the dumbest. Not only do you just blindly listen to the dude in your ear who you don't even know telling you to hack your co-workers computer and break laws, but you have to physically take the files to a "courier" downstairs. Like yes, we don't have email with attachments in the abstergo world, so we have to manually transfer the files to some external companies employee who spends their days travelling from office to office and getting their phone really close to other peoples phones. Just scrap real world stuff without any warning and pretend it never happened, ubisoft. It's for the best.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
"Transporting computer files by courier" is a common trope in cyberpunk since networks tend to be traced by the big bad evil organization.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Volkerball posted:

Replaying Black Flag, and goddamn the real world poo poo is seriously the dumbest. Not only do you just blindly listen to the dude in your ear who you don't even know telling you to hack your co-workers computer and break laws, but you have to physically take the files to a "courier" downstairs. Like yes, we don't have email with attachments in the abstergo world, so we have to manually transfer the files to some external companies employee who spends their days travelling from office to office and getting their phone really close to other peoples phones. Just scrap real world stuff without any warning and pretend it never happened, ubisoft. It's for the best.
I've been waiting for them to do this since the second game, I don't think it's going to happen. The people who thought up that stupid idea in the first place need to save face, so they will always have at least some of it.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

RagnarokAngel posted:

"Transporting computer files by courier" is a common trope in cyberpunk since networks tend to be traced by the big bad evil organization.

yes but calling the real world segments of asscreed "cyberpunk" is giving them way more credit than they will ever deserve.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


I looked through the LP of Rogue posted earlier and holy poo poo it is the exact same game as 4, except they added the snowtiles and New York (with more trees!) from 3. They even reuse the Abstergo office from the last game.

Also the story :psyduck:

Shay ditches the Assassins because Achilles orders him to go poke a precursor artifact and see what happens. It ends up causing The Lisbon Earthquake and so Shay embarks on a poorly thought out quest of revenge while your new Abstergo boss guy (who looks like a uninspired Call of Duty character) keeps telling you how Shay is the coolest and bestest Assassin ever. I gave up when Blade walked in and introduced himself as Jack Weeks. :negative:

Bro Dad fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Nov 10, 2014

Adun
Apr 15, 2001

Publicola
Fun Shoe
I'm excited for Unity, if only because I'm already so committed to the series, but I think I've finally learned my lesson and I'm going to wait until Black Friday or the next time Amazon does their B2G1 deal before I order it.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Bro Dad posted:

I looked through the LP of Rogue posted earlier and holy poo poo it is the exact same game as 4, except they added the snowtiles and New York (with more trees!) from 3. They even reuse the Abstergo office from the last game.

Is this necessarily bad? Other than an over reliance on loving tailing missions and BOAT STEALTH Black Flag was a pretty solid game, possibly the best in the series.

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


After watching the open world walkthrough for Unity, I gotta say the amount of npc walking around is loving insane. Like it seems like its almost going to be a pain in the rear end running around on the streets. But screw it, game looks beautiful.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Adun posted:

I'm excited for Unity, if only because I'm already so committed to the series, but I think I've finally learned my lesson and I'm going to wait until Black Friday or the next time Amazon does their B2G1 deal before I order it.

Target is doing that right now, if that's what you desire.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Calaveron posted:

Is this necessarily bad? Other than an over reliance on loving tailing missions and BOAT STEALTH Black Flag was a pretty solid game, possibly the best in the series.

It's a bit lazy. Revelations was a naked cash grab but they at least included new art assets and unique zones to to explore, Rogue seems like an expanded DLC for 4.

Also if anyone is wondering how Rogue and Unity tie together:

:siren: big loving spoilers for Rogue (and probably Unity) obviously :siren:
The MacGuffin this time isn't the Apple, but "The Tree". Apparently all the seismic events from 3 and Rogue are because of a precursor infrastructure that keeps the world together with its "roots", and interfering with it has great consequences. So naturally the Templars and Assassins fight over the map to it, which leads Shay to Versailles where he kills Arno Dorian's father (you even walk by him and Elise giggling in the next room) and takes the map. As Charles Dorian dies, he tells Shay that Connor and the American Revolution have undone the Templars. Shay tells him that Templars will make their own revolution and walks out of the room just as Arno gets to see his father lying in a pool of his own blood.

Bro Dad fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Nov 10, 2014

HaitianDivorce
Jul 29, 2012

Bro Dad posted:

It's a bit lazy. Revelations was a naked cash grab but they at least included new art assets and unique zones to to explore, Rogue seems like an expanded DLC for 4.

Also if anyone is wondering how Rogue and Unity tie together:

:siren: big loving spoilers for Rogue (and probably Unity) obviously :siren: :

The MacGuffin this time isn't the Apple, but "The Tree". Apparently all the seismic events from 3 and Rogue are because of a precursor infrastructure that keeps the world together with its "roots", and interfering with it has great consequences. So naturally the Templars and Assassins fight over the map to it, which leads Shay to Versailles where he kills Arno Dorian's father (you even walk by him and Elise giggling in the next room) and takes the map. As Charles Dorian dies, he tells Shay that Connor and the American Revolution have undone the American Revolution. Shay tells him that Templars will make their own revolution and walks out of the room just as Arno gets to see his father lying in a pool of his own blood.


All of this actually sounds pretty cool and has restored my enthusiasm for Rogue while I figure out what I'm getting Unity for!

That said, what does "As Charles Dorian dies, he tells Shay that Connor and the American Revolution have undone the American Revolution" mean?

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007
Man I hope Unity is good. I would hate for the French Revolution to be wasted on a bad game, like how the American Revolution was.

Hell I hate it when any AC game is bad because it's really the only history-focused game series where you actually play as a dude that I can think of. I mean there are a lot of like RTS and grand strategy games that are historical in nature but hardly any where you play as a dude. Like in no other game series can I be a guy running around Renaissance Italy or colonial America, especially one that's trying to be historically accurate (to a point).

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Mischitary posted:

Man I hope Unity is good. I would hate for the French Revolution to be wasted on a bad game, like how the American Revolution was.

Hell I hate it when any AC game is bad because it's really the only history-focused game series where you actually play as a dude that I can think of. I mean there are a lot of like RTS and grand strategy games that are historical in nature but hardly any where you play as a dude. Like in no other game series can I be a guy running around Renaissance Italy or colonial America, especially one that's trying to be historically accurate (to a point).
Yeah, this is what originally brought me to the series and why I will probably buy this one on Tuesday despite previous disappointments. It's like Dynasty Warriors: what other game series are you going to go to when you have an itch to take a comic book version of an ancient war hero and mow down hapless enemies with them? If there was a better one, I'd be playing that instead.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


HaitianDivorce posted:

All of this actually sounds pretty cool and has restored my enthusiasm for Rogue while I figure out what I'm getting Unity for!

That said, what does "As Charles Dorian dies, he tells Shay that Connor and the American Revolution have undone the American Revolution" mean?

I edited it :wink:

And for anyone curious about the Abstergo plot (whoever you are):

:siren: spoilers obviously :siren:
The reason the Templars wanted access to Shay's memories is that he is living proof of an Assassin that turned against Brotherhood for a righteous cause. So creepy merc boss tells you to upload his memories to the Assassin network to demoralize them in coordination with a worldwide purge of the Brotherhood. Then he and suspiciously perky boss offer you membership in the Templars as he cocks his pistol in case you refuse. The end.

Bro Dad fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Nov 10, 2014

HaitianDivorce
Jul 29, 2012

Bro Dad posted:

I edited it :wink:

And for anyone curious about the Abstergo plot (whoever you are):

:siren: spoilers obviously :siren:
The reason the Templars wanted access to Shay's memories is that he is living proof of an Assassin that turned against Brotherhood for a righteous cause. So creepy merc boss tells you to upload his memories to the Assassin network to demoralize them in coordination with a worldwide purge of the Brotherhood. Then he and suspiciously perky boss offer you membership in the Templars as he cocks his pistol in case you refuse. The end.

Thanks! Rogue looks like it might be worth a playthrough.

Also lol the creepy mercenary dude is supposed to be in his thirties according to the wiki. Dude looks like he could be an understudy for Grand Moff Tarkin

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


HaitianDivorce posted:

Also lol the creepy mercenary dude is supposed to be in his thirties according to the wiki. Dude looks like he could be an understudy for Grand Moff Tarkin

It gets better:

In game he looks like Titus Pullo wearing random milsurp gear yet has the whiny, nasally voice of Francis Pritchard from Deus Ex :shepface:

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



macnbc posted:

Hey, could you spoiler that, please?
Some of us are trying to avoid story details that aren't in the trailers.

Whoops, my mistake! Done, albeit a little belatedly :shobon:

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011

So other players won't appear with their customized assassin but a randomly generated one? I don't get it. Will the player always look like their own assassin that they've customized but everyone else will look different? I'm also wondering if there's enough multiplayer and content to warrant buying this new and not just waiting for a sale.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


macnbc posted:

Added to OP. :D

I might be missing a joke here, but in case I wasn't clear, I haven't actually played the game, I'm just convinced that this is how most reviews are going to go.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

rizuhbull posted:

So other players won't appear with their customized assassin but a randomly generated one? I don't get it. Will the player always look like their own assassin that they've customized but everyone else will look different? I'm also wondering if there's enough multiplayer and content to warrant buying this new and not just waiting for a sale.

It's watch_dogs style MP. You always look like the main character to yourself, everyone else looks like a mook. On your friend's screen, they see themselves as the main character, and you're the random no-name.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
But why not let the player show off their customization to other players? One reason I liked Saints Row multiplayer is seeing all the crazy poo poo the other players came up with.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
~*Immersion*~ probably

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

RagnarokAngel posted:

~*Immersion*~ probably
Yeah immersion...while your actual player character is basically playing a VR video game themselves.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Hey yell at Ubi not me.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
I would guess they have all their custom gear, just on an assassin model that isn't Arno.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Samurai Sanders posted:

But why not let the player show off their customization to other players? One reason I liked Saints Row multiplayer is seeing all the crazy poo poo the other players came up with.

They see your customization of armor and weapons, your face just isn't Arno, it's some random beardy schmuck. Which isn't important in the first place because hoods.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
Any word on Steam Preload yet?

Orv
May 4, 2011

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Any word on Steam Preload yet?

Probably today (NA Monday).

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Do they ever do pre-loads with Uplay titles?

Gunder
May 22, 2003

Is there really no out-of-animus stuff (besides a few chatty videos from that woman) in Unity? I enjoyed tooling around the office in Black Flag.

WirelessPillow
Jan 12, 2012

Look Ma, no wires!

Hakkesshu posted:

Do they ever do pre-loads with Uplay titles?

They did for Black Flag.

DeadLetterOfficer
Mar 30, 2011

I said, I've got a big stick.
Haven't had a chance to see any of the streams but is the whole social events/chests making a return in Unity? Is so will have to add random goons again.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.
PC version seems to be out in the wild now. Eagerly awaiting the inevitable reports of terrible framerates at low settings and tiny resolutions. also mouse acceleration.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

Moartoast posted:

PC version seems to be out in the wild now. Eagerly awaiting the inevitable reports of terrible framerates at low settings and tiny resolutions. also mouse acceleration.

Why the gently caress are you playing Assassin's Creed with a mouse anyways? I did that once with AC2 while my controller wasn't working, and never loving again. The beauty of PC is that you can use mouse and keyboard for games that control better with them like FPSes and RTSes, but also controllers for games that control better with one like fighting games and third person action games like AC.

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