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Mega64 posted:Now have a Blue Mage learn it so you can do the same bullshit to a surprising amount of enemies. And bosses. 
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So against all advice everywhere, I'm playing through FF13 for the Very First Time. Currently on chapter 5. Thoughts so far: - It is a very pretty game. I'm getting a bit sick of the constant plot thread of "omg gotta keep running" though, and am waiting for something more interesting to happen. - Snow is a goddamn unrealistic moron. - Related: While I'm sick of hearing about Lightning everywhere, she gets major points from me every time she punches Snow. - On the other hand, she lost most of those points when her chest starts glowing and she's in obvious pain and something weird is definitely going on (Odin), this is obviously the best time to chew out Hope rather than pay attention to the more immediate concern. - Sazh must be the straight man player viewpoint character because he's the only one whose behavior tends to make sense. - Vanille is horrible at reacting appropriately to social cues. And makes weird noises a lot. - I swear that trivial unloseable dreadnought riding minigame was there just for the sake of having a random minigame interlude. Combat system question: I'm pretty good on the whole stagger mechanic with COM and RAV, and switching to MED for healing is straightforward, but when and how much should I be using SYN and SAB? Bosses only? Randoms too? Full buff/debuff, none, one or two?
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Nov 10, 2014 01:03
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Vil posted:So against all advice everywhere, I'm playing through FF13 for the Very First Time. Currently on chapter 5. Thoughts so far: Use them often. Generally even one or two buffs/debuffs before swapping will be much more effective than just killing something straight. Buffs are more useful for trash mobs except for big beefy ones who generally are worth debuffing. You don't need to pile on every buff. The game will generally pick a good one for a situation (The En(x) spells if something is weak to an element or soon) and once you've got a buff or two you're fine. Piling on debuffs is only really necessary for bosses or big beefy enemies. Generally if you have any fight that you're not ending relatively quickly a buff will probably cut your combat time by a third or more.
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Nov 10, 2014 01:08
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ImpAtom posted:Use them often. Generally even one or two buffs/debuffs before swapping will be much more effective than just killing something straight. Buffs are more useful for trash mobs except for big beefy ones who generally are worth debuffing. One extra point- Use Libra liberally on new enemies. The AI will eventually 'learn' enemy weaknesses and strengths over a few encounters, but Libra costs 1 TP, which you'll get back in 3-5 fights, and instantly clues the AI in to enemy resistances, weaknesses, and primary things of note (IE, this is a physical attacker) and prioritize buffs, debuffs, and attacks that actually matter (IE, against physical attackers they'll cast Protect before Shell, use Pain to nullify some of their attacks, and not waste time with Fog, since that only inhibits spellcasting.) 90% of the complaints I hear about FFXIII's combat system is that the AI will spend time occasionally on pointless stupid moves that do nothing that you know better then to use, and one cast of Libra or especially the use of a Librascope and that pretty much goes right away and most people forget Libra's even a thing in the game.
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Nov 10, 2014 02:11
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Sazh is just a normal sitcom dad who wandered into the plot one day and has no clue what he did to deserve this. He's the best.
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Nov 10, 2014 02:18
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SAB is similar to COM in that their attacks don't add a lot to the gauge, but slow down stagger gauge dropping. So a SAB/RAV/RAV party is good for quickly building up the initial gauge, but since the SAB AI is kind of dumb they won't reapply debuffs. You'll want to swap SABs out once the opponent is Staggered, unless they're more easily prone to ailments once that happens. SYNs are best used at the start of the battle to frontload buffs; if you're doing it right you won't need them past the first round of buffs (bosses aside).
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Nov 10, 2014 02:39
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You probably just want to control the Sab, since they can still use the debuffs to keep the stagger gauge up. I only used Com/Rav/Rav when things were staggered and I wanted to attack a single enemy, when against a group. As for another piece of advice, abuse the Smite-like attacks whenever you can, even if it means wasting a little time doing nothing while the enemy's stagger gauge gets low enough for it to activate. Doing 99999 against a boss is going to be way more useful than any single bar of attacks you'd do otherwise.
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Nov 10, 2014 02:52
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Also both Biran and Yenke are vulnerable to Doom so as long as you picked that to you just need to use doom and wait for your overdrive to refill, and then wait.
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Nov 10, 2014 03:00
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Vil posted:So against all advice everywhere, I'm playing through FF13 for the Very First Time. Currently on chapter 5. Thoughts so far: When you first gain access to SYN/SAB you don't really need to use them too much but they quickly become almost mandatory if you want to kill things in a reasonable amount of time so I'd get used to just starting out with SYN/SAB to buff/de-buff and then switching to your stagger building paradigm.
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Nov 10, 2014 03:27
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Mischitary posted:When you first gain access to SYN/SAB you don't really need to use them too much but they quickly become almost mandatory if you want to kill things in a reasonable amount of time so I'd get used to just starting out with SYN/SAB to buff/de-buff and then switching to your stagger building paradigm. This is The Right Way to play FFXIII. You can get away with sab rav rav for trash stuff but otherwise the syn buffs are too good to forgo on even medium stuff.
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Nov 10, 2014 03:48
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Are the two FFXIII sequels worth playing? I hated FFXIII but im going through FF withdrawal and I dont feel like replaying any of them. I tried to play FFX2 but it was too loving embarrassing.
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Nov 10, 2014 03:59
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play ffx2 nerd
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Nov 10, 2014 04:00
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Cake Attack posted:play ffx2 nerd
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Nov 10, 2014 04:01
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TommyGun85 posted:Are the two FFXIII sequels worth playing? I hated FFXIII but im going through FF withdrawal and I dont feel like replaying any of them. Most people agree that XIII-3 is a lot of fun, assuming you aren't totally turned off by extremely lenient time limits. The battle system is completely different from XIII's, and a lot of the game feels pretty tongue-in-cheek instead of "overly serious but sometimes Sazh".
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Nov 10, 2014 04:04
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TommyGun85 posted:Are the two FFXIII sequels worth playing? I hated FFXIII but im going through FF withdrawal and I dont feel like replaying any of them. Lightning Returns is really good.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:05
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I can't play ffx2 it's embarrassing because it has girls and pink *weeps openly while playing a rom hack that finally replaces Cait Sith with a mature character*
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Nov 10, 2014 04:09
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Funny enough it seems LR sacrificed Sazh's goofness to make the game itself more self-aware, which is pretty funny.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:13
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Cake Attack posted:I can't play ffx2 it's embarrassing because it has girls and pink everyone should relax with the insecurity remarks. I didnt like it and was embarrassed to play it as an ADULT, not as a male. Moving on, so is Lightning Returns the better of the sequels? Time constraints and missables dont bother me in any way.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:14
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Nov 10, 2014 04:15
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TommyGun85 posted:everyone should relax with the insecurity remarks. I didnt like it and was embarrassed to play it as an ADULT, not as a male. It is the better of the sequels yes.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:16
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Mega64 posted:Now have a Blue Mage learn it so you can do the same bullshit to a surprising amount of enemies. I would never do something so cheap to the enemies as a Lv 5 doom spell. I'm better than that. That totally wouldn't be fair.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:20
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TommyGun85 posted:Moving on, so is Lightning Returns the better of the sequels? Time constraints and missables dont bother me in any way.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:22
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Endorph posted:lightnings hair is pink, be careful So is mine, I'll be fine. Thanks for your concern.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:23
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TommyGun85 posted:So is mine TommyGun85 posted:too loving embarrassing.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:33
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I never finished FFVII because of the part when Cloud had to dress up and then get gangraped in a hot tub by a bunch of guys with porn mustaches. It was just too embarrassing.
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Nov 10, 2014 04:55
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TommyGun85 posted:Are the two FFXIII sequels worth playing? I hated FFXIII but im going through FF withdrawal and I dont feel like replaying any of them. TommyGun85 posted:everyone should relax with the insecurity remarks. I didnt like it and was embarrassed to play it as an ADULT, not as a male. TommyGun85 posted:So is mine, I'll be fine. Thanks for your concern. lol
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Nov 10, 2014 04:56
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I'd recommend playing Lightning Returns on hard first time through. It's definitely more interesting that way if you don't mind the time limit.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:01
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Renoistic posted:I'd recommend playing Lightning Returns on hard first time through. It's definitely more interesting that way if you don't mind the time limit. Also please learn that perfect guarding absolutely wrecks everything in the game forever and causes some enemies to become absolute jokes.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:02
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Renoistic posted:I'd recommend playing Lightning Returns on hard first time through. It's definitely more interesting that way if you don't mind the time limit. Do I have to be familiar with the story of the previous game or can I play this one without it?
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Nov 10, 2014 05:03
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TommyGun85 posted:Do I have to be familiar with the story of the previous game or can I play this one without it?
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Nov 10, 2014 05:06
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The story is such a gently caress you that, having recently FF13 before watching FF13-2, they threw like 10,000 new elements and people in the first 20 minutes. They don't give a gently caress. Read a wikia if you really want to, because they'll do a better job telling what's going on.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:19
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They give you all the info you need to understand the gist if it and what you're doing and why. There are some recurring characters of course but you should be mostly OK if you played the first game. You might want to watch the end of XIII and the beginning and end of XIII-2. There's also an in game journal that does a decent job of explaining who is who. It's really not that important though. The three games are pretty much three separate stories with Lightning being the red line that connects them.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:20
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It's basically: "gently caress YOU, gently caress GOD, gently caress EVERYONE. IMMA MURDER THIS poo poo RIGHT HERE AND SO HELP ME THAT I WILL MURDER ANYTHING THAT PISSES ME OFF. ALSO gently caress YOU" So no, go hog wild with the game and ignore the plot. But revel in the world building since it's the people you interact with are humorous in their own stupid way.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:23
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Yeah basically this. Lightning in this game is tired of everyone's bullshit. She's refreshingly frank and sassy for a JRPG character. Still, expect a lot of nonsense dialog, dodgy voice acting, and a story that don't make much sense.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:31
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Lightning Returns has a great story because Caius straight up is like "I'm loving sick of this, leave me alone." After his giant bad guy fest in 13-2.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:32
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LR's story is actually the easiest of the 13-X series to get into. You're an angel, go help people to save their solves, gently caress up assholes who get in your way and Chaos monsters.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:35
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The best part of LR is that you can dress up Lightning and there are all kinds of different outfits that do different things. I don't really know about the story, in LR you can do like anything you wanna do. There might be a few things the game forces you to do in the beginning but that's about it.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:36
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Beef Waifu posted:Lightning Returns has a great story because Caius straight up is like "I'm loving sick of this, leave me alone." After his giant bad guy fest in 13-2. Seriously, the boss fight against him in LR on hard was grueling. I was so looking forward to Lightning ripping put his soul afterwards but he just goes 'nope' and that's that. That made him a bigger villain than destroying the world in my eyes. That and returning Yeul. By the way, if you actually are interested, you should read the "Lightning's journal/thoughts" text that us updated after every major event. I thought they gave her more character development than the two first games put together, but that might just be me.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:43
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I should because Lightning is pretty funny in LR.
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meow meow choco chow
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