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Burqa King posted:Good to see cooler heads have prevailed and ACAB has been overturned. I say we give the buggers a raise. 1820: The last person is suspended and then decapitated in the United Kingdom, following the Cato Street Conspiracy. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Junior G-man posted:Did anyone watch the 'Police under Pressure' doc on BBC2 yesterday? It was about child sexual abuse in Rotherham, made before the real shitstorm hit, and already you could see that the department was struggling to pursue these and other major cases due to budget constraints. But cut away. but why should we give more of our taxpayers money to people who let paedos attack children without remorse!!!!! The sad thing is that I bet someone somewhere is arguing that seriously... Regardless of what you think about the police generally, those who's primary job is chasing down paedophiles do a pretty important and hard. I watched some old BBC documentary about the Met's paedophile unit on youtube at some point for some reason that I can't quite remember, and one of the jobs that they do is looking at all of the poo poo that they find in these people's houses to try and identify both victims and abusers, which is something that's probably up there as one of the most harrowing jobs that you could possibly do...
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Nov 10, 2014 11:19
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Yeah they have strict limits on how much of that work they do because 
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IceAgeComing posted:Tower Hamlets update: turns out that Mr Rahmann more than likely committed proper serious electoral fraud including changing Labour votes to votes for him and including other candidates votes in his bundles to make sure that they added up to the right number. Its a bit discouraging that something that blatant can happen in an election in the United Kingdom... Perhaps now people understand what I was talking about after the independence referendum, when I said that to rig a ballot result you would need election staff to be complicit from top to bottom. That's exactly what Lutfur Rahman has been doing in Tower Hamlets. On the other hand, I don't think any of the Bengali community would be happy if the EDL shipped Rahman to a camp on the Isle of Man because they'd all be shipped off with him whether they thought he'd done anything wrong or not.
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IceAgeComing posted:The sad thing is that I bet someone somewhere is arguing that seriously... Regardless of what you think about the police generally, those who's primary job is chasing down paedophiles do a pretty important and hard. I watched some old BBC documentary about the Met's paedophile unit on youtube at some point for some reason that I can't quite remember, and one of the jobs that they do is looking at all of the poo poo that they find in these people's houses to try and identify both victims and abusers, which is something that's probably up there as one of the most harrowing jobs that you could possibly do... Oh yeah, I watched it a while ago, it's called 'the hunt for Britain's paedophiles' and it's on YouTube.. It's pretty drat harrowing watching, and even downright nauseating in places.
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Junior G-man posted:Oh yeah, I watched it a while ago, it's called 'the hunt for Britain's paedophiles' and it's on YouTube.. Hunt? Surely it's not that hard to find everyone who was on telly in the 70s.
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Nov 10, 2014 11:42
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Mister Adequate posted:Hunt? Surely it's not that hard to find everyone who was on telly in the 70s. Well, the BBC did use to wipe old episodes of everything because tape was expensive and archive space was limited, so who knows what we can still find. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE LEFTIE BBC SHIELDING PAEDOS AND TURNING OUR KIDS' MINDS TO COMMUNIST BLUBBER
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Nov 10, 2014 11:43
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LemonDrizzle posted:We've got a problem, and the only solution is more cuts!
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Junior G-man posted:Did anyone watch the 'Police under Pressure' doc on BBC2 yesterday? It was about child sexual abuse in Rotherham, made before the real shitstorm hit, and already you could see that the department was struggling to pursue these and other major cases due to budget constraints. But cut away. I'm not sure how much you can blame budget cuts for an inability to catch paedophiles. Many of the abuses of children that they failed to catch happen long before austerity. Cuts will make things worse but it isn't just cuts that prevented them from catching paedophiles, institutional indifference was probably the biggest cause.
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We could all be billionaires tomorrow if the government would only print more money. Food for thought there.
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Wow, paedogeddon has actually happened.quote:
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ReV VAdAUL posted:I'm not sure how much you can blame budget cuts for an inability to catch paedophiles. Many of the abuses of children that they failed to catch happen long before austerity. Cuts will make things worse but it isn't just cuts that prevented them from catching paedophiles, institutional indifference was probably the biggest cause. Well, of course I wouldn't place that kind of direct blame. The point I was trying to make (somewhat inelegantly) is that budget cuts force police units (or anyone else) to make priority choices in manpower and resources that may leave other areas uncovered - more child abuse investigations leads to less time for violent crimes/spousal abuse etc.
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Prince John posted:Wow, paedogeddon has actually happened. I love the picture they've chosen, it's like a hawk that guarding the park from paedophile. A paedohawk.
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Shelf Adventure posted:I love the picture they've chosen, it's like a hawk that guarding the park from paedophile. A paedohawk. We should start an online aviary service - renting out paedohawks and anti-abuse-owls to Daily Express parents.
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Prince John posted:Wow, paedogeddon has actually happened. So one pedo isnt allowed in, but if they come in a group its fine?
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serious gaylord posted:So one pedo isnt allowed in, but if they come in a group its fine? A flock of paedo's, if you will 
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Prince John posted:Wow, paedogeddon has actually happened. efb kindof, I'm wondering what they treat as a legitimate group though. The parks policy could be phrased as 'encouraging pedophile rings' if you wanted to double down on their ridiculousness though. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Nov 10, 2014 13:25
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More deficit fun: what would you cut to achieve £48b in savings? The defence budget? Health spending? Funding for Scotland, Wales, and NI? School money? It's all up for grabs! http://www.ft.com/ig/sites/2014/deficit-calculator/ e: the Daily Mail sandwich factory story is amazing too, they manage to combine attacks on dirty job-stealing forrins with digs at British workers who are overly coddled by the welfare state and won't take perfectly good jobs when they're offered: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827625/Factory-bosses-forced-recruit-Hungary-locals-not-apply.html quote:Its vacancy crisis will re-ignite claims that Britain’s generous welfare system has created a generation unwilling to work, while acting as a magnet for foreigners. LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Answers Me posted:Well, is there?? There were some really good responses to this one on twitter: http://www.theguardian.com/media/mediamonkeyblog/2014/nov/10/sandwich-makers-of-britain-concede-daily-mail-front-page-is-right
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LemonDrizzle posted:what would you cut to achieve £48b in savings? The defence budget.
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Answers Me posted:
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Answers Me posted:
Kate looks loving disgusted at this turn of events.
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LemonDrizzle posted:e: the Daily Mail sandwich factory story is amazing too, they manage to combine attacks on dirty job-stealing forrins with digs at British workers who are overly coddled by the welfare state and won't take perfectly good jobs when they're offered: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827625/Factory-bosses-forced-recruit-Hungary-locals-not-apply.html It's a question worth asking though. If there are 8,000 people unemployed in the town, as the article claimed, which I take to mean "want to work, but can't find a job", then it shouldn't be rocket science to fill the jobs locally without having to go to the other end of Europe. Aren't people in this thread usually complaining about people being forced to take jobs offered to them or lose their benefits? Prince John fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Prince John posted:Wow, paedogeddon has actually happened. It's not a new thing. Coram's Fields round the back of Great Ormand Street Hospital has had that policy since at least the 1970s, they have (or at least had, I've not been there since the mid-1980s when my dad used to take me there in a wheelchair) a big sign saying that all adults must be accompanied by a child. I don't think it's an entirely bad thing either.
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Answers Me posted:
Hang on, free ceramic poppy brooch doesn't that somewhat defeat the object?
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Prince John posted:It's a question worth asking though. If there are 8,000 people unemployed in the town, as the article claimed, which I take to mean "want to work, but can't find a job", then it shouldn't be rocket science to fill the jobs locally without having to go to the other end of Europe. Aren't people in this thread usually complaining about people being forced to take jobs offered to them or lose their benefits? The factory doesn't open until 2016, I don't think that many people are desperate to apply for a job making sandwiches that won't start for 18 months. Edit: HortonNash posted:It's not a new thing. It makes a tiny bit more sense for that kind of place where there's no reason to be there unless you're taking a kid, but a falconry exhibit sounds like something that a lot of adults would enjoy just as much as children. hookerbot 5000 fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Answers Me posted:
Is there no-one in Britain who will work a poo poo job for poo poo hours for 50p an hour!? This is why we lost our empire*! *our empire which on balance was a good thing because there are now IT companies in India
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mrpwase posted:Is there no-one in Britain who will work a poo poo job for poo poo hours for 50p an hour!? This is why we lost our empire*!
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Prince John posted:Aren't people in this thread usually complaining about people being forced to take jobs offered to them or lose their benefits? No, don't be obtuse. Generally the complaint is they are forced to take jobs literally without pay, with pay so low that benefits are still required to live, without guaranteed hours or in particularly exploitative work and mlm scams.
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HortonNash posted:It's not a new thing. Well, that explains Jimmy Savile - he just wanted to pet the goats.
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HortonNash posted:It's not a new thing. So Paedos are ok as long as they bring their own child. Fair enough, maybe they can arrange some sort of swap meet.
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Prince John posted:It's a question worth asking though. If there are 8,000 people unemployed in the town, as the article claimed, which I take to mean "want to work, but can't find a job", then it shouldn't be rocket science to fill the jobs locally without having to go to the other end of Europe. Aren't people in this thread usually complaining about people being forced to take jobs offered to them or lose their benefits? Jobless people tend to need jobs now, not in two years time. If you're rich enough to live off savings for that long you're probably not looking for minimum wage factory work either. If you're on benefits your advisor would be pushing you to get a job that gets you off benefits right now, not in two years time. It isn't an indictment of welfare nor of British people's sandwich making at all and it therefore isn't a reasonable question to ask. E: if you're in work you won't apply for a future job unless it offers a raise and, given the prominent mention of how attractive the minimum wage is to Hungarians, it seems likely they weren't offering competitive wages either. ReV VAdAUL fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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it's not making a sandwich, it's making thousands of sandwiches with whatever procedure that gives supermarket sandwiches their conspicuous regularity, atop of passing the non-negotiable lifestyle tests that accompany food preparation jobs. Piercings, illicit drug use tests, showing up with iron regularity, etc. such semi-skilled people in Britain are already in full employment in the UK. getting such workers from Hungrary is more a sign of how dysfunctional Hungrary is than how indolent Britain is.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Jobless people tend to need jobs now, not in two years time. If you're rich enough to live off savings for that long you're probably not looking for minimum wage factory work either. If you're on benefits your advisor would be pushing you to get a job that gets you off benefits right now, not in two years time. That only leaves second year students on silly courses. Please make yourself known to the thread and we'll help you with the form.
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there was once upon a time when such factories would be staffed with lots of people who were pretty bright but, due to the rigidities of class and birth, were never given the opportunity to get a degree well if you fix that, then unsurprisingly you are going to drain the cheap labour pool of workers with surprising sandwich-making potential and the social skills to police their peers into also making sandwiches. Those skilled people are now all paper-pushers pushing paper with values substantially more than £3.00 (with a coke and a mars bar).
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ronya posted:there was once upon a time when such factories would be staffed with lots of people who were pretty bright but, due to the rigidities of class and birth, were never given the opportunity to get a degree
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