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You know what makes me angriest about this whole situation? The white people acting like THEY'RE the ones who are about to be in danger. Sorry, last I checked the heavily-armed soldiers with riot shields and Sabre Red spray were not there to protect the crowds of protesters! Is it just in their nature to fear black people in groups or what?
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Astrofig posted:You know what makes me angriest about this whole situation? The white people acting like THEY'RE the ones who are about to be in danger. Sorry, last I checked the heavily-armed soldiers with riot shields and Sabre Red spray were not there to protect the crowds of protesters! Is it just in their nature to fear black people in groups or what? I remember during the Rodney King riots, my family spoke in hushed tones about "reports" of white people being raped and/or killed on sight. So yes, they really do straight up fear angry black people in groups, to the point that they'll believe any nonsense that telephone game's their way.
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Nov 10, 2014 22:32
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NPR says that McCullough says that the grand jury is still hearing evidence, and that a I dunno, I thought the people who said they would do it earlier had a point, fire hoses and riot armor can get chilly in the winter, and have you ever busted a protesters skull with a truncheon in the winter? that poo poo stings! Makes your knuckles ache like crazy.
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Nov 10, 2014 22:38
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lurker1981 posted:edit3: Because I can't believe this actually got published... I'm going to need a source on that being about the Michael Brown case, I checked Luckovich's website and I don't see that cartoon going back to the beginning of august when this happened and I think I see a bad 2011 copyright on here, implying it's about Michael Jackson.
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Nov 10, 2014 22:57
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Babby Formed posted:I'm going to need a source on that being about the Michael Brown case, I checked Luckovich's website and I don't see that cartoon going back to the beginning of august when this happened and I think I see a bad 2011 copyright on here, implying it's about Michael Jackson. Yeah, it was about Michael Jackson.
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Nov 10, 2014 23:02
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Astrofig posted:You know what makes me angriest about this whole situation? The white people acting like THEY'RE the ones who are about to be in danger. Sorry, last I checked the heavily-armed soldiers with riot shields and Sabre Red spray were not there to protect the crowds of protesters! Is it just in their nature to fear black people in groups or what? "White people" can, do, and are protesting as well. Institutionally you are better off being white, but police brutality is a poor demographic problem that transcends race. Michael Brown could have been white and it wouldn't have been any better or worse. And actually being a well-off white dude, doesn't make you immune either.
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Nov 10, 2014 23:20
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Talmonis posted:I remember during the Rodney King riots, my family spoke in hushed tones about "reports" of white people being raped and/or killed on sight. So yes, they really do straight up fear angry black people in groups, to the point that they'll believe any nonsense that telephone game's their way. My 80-year-old aunt has been terrified of black people ever since the 1967 Detroit Riot, which she got caught in. She's also afraid of Jews and really anyone who's not white and heterosexual in general, but she's literally afraid of blacks. A lot of the people scared of minorities don't have a lot of true malice in their hearts. They likely were raised poorly and had bad experiences, and confirmation bias keeps it going. chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Nov 10, 2014 23:33
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Astrofig posted:You know what makes me angriest about this whole situation? The white people acting like THEY'RE the ones who are about to be in danger. Sorry, last I checked the heavily-armed soldiers with riot shields and Sabre Red spray were not there to protect the crowds of protesters! Is it just in their nature to fear black people in groups or what? This is par for the course. That's the point of all these leaks of gear that the police are loading up on, so that good hard-working White People will know that the police are out to protect THEM from the filthy animalistic blacks. People spend their entire lives in this country needing to think of black people as monsters because it's the only way they can see the hosed-up justice system and overwhelming poverty and think that it's something they brought on themselves
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Nov 10, 2014 23:52
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Our corporate VP of communications just sent out a memo saying don't come to work if the rioting is bad. Our offices are literally in the richest and whitest part of St. Louis. I lol'd.
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Nov 11, 2014 01:52
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Peven Stan posted:Our corporate VP of communications just sent out a memo saying don't come to work if the rioting is bad. Our offices are literally in the richest and whitest part of St. Louis. I lol'd. Does the metrolink go to your area? I've heard that the ferals use it to play the knockout game in the suburbs.
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Milk that poo poo. Send an email all "I was getting ready to leave the mansion and head to my chauffeured automobile when I saw one of those blacks dart across the road. I was afraid he would wash my window and demand a dollar. I cannot leave the premises for a week."
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Stultus Maximus posted:Does the metrolink go to your area? I've heard that the ferals use it to play the knockout game in the suburbs. I live in the city. There's a metro stop 5 minutes from my apartment. I have a cauldron of boiling oil going to pour off my balcony in case of marauding blacks.
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Nov 11, 2014 01:58
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Peven Stan posted:I live in the city. There's a metro stop 5 minutes from my apartment. I have a cauldron of boiling oil going to pour off my balcony in case of marauding blacks. One of my friends moved to the city in July and started posting on Facebook about how he was sleeping with his pistol under his pillow when the Ferguson protests started. You know, the protests occurring like a 35 minute drive away which might somehow spread down there and target him because reasons. It's amazing how some liberals will turn gun-stroker when the possibility of unhappy black people is in their time zone.
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Nov 11, 2014 02:03
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Y'know, I'd be afraid to go outside in Ferguson too, but not because of the protesters. It's looking like the moment a non-indictment is announced, the police are gonna straight-up nuke the town without waiting for any provocation.
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Nov 11, 2014 02:07
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Stultus Maximus posted:Does the metrolink go to your area? I've heard that the ferals use it to play the knockout game in the suburbs. --- Prosecutor McCulloch was running unopposed, so last week I cast a write-in vote for Michael Brown.
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In a decision that surprised no one, McCulloch rules July 5 shooting by Pine Lawn police was justified.St. Louis Post Dispatch posted:The fatal shooting of an unarmed man on July 5 by a Pine Lawn police officer appeared to be justified and "not excessive under the circumstances," according to a review by St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch.
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Nov 11, 2014 02:15
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All of this has happened before and will happen again: This was from a Nov. 1955 White Citizens Council newsletter.
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Astrofig posted:You know what makes me angriest about this whole situation? The white people acting like THEY'RE the ones who are about to be in danger. Sorry, last I checked the heavily-armed soldiers with riot shields and Sabre Red spray were not there to protect the crowds of protesters! Is it just in their nature to fear black people in groups or what? A whole lot of folks just live their whole lives waiting for Nat Turner to show up.
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Nov 11, 2014 03:32
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Cichlid the Loach posted:Y'know, I'd be afraid to go outside in Ferguson too, but not because of the protesters. After watching the live feeds of the protests, I'd agree with you. There was one night where they were literally marching and driving armored vehicles down suburban streets, firing tear gas at everyone they saw no matter who they were or what their skin color was (and obviously shooting into backyards). They even surrounded two reporters in an apartment block parking lot and fired tear gas grenades directly at them so one of them got hit by one.
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Nov 11, 2014 03:57
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Talmonis posted:I remember during the Rodney King riots, my family spoke in hushed tones about "reports" of white people being raped and/or killed on sight. So yes, they really do straight up fear angry black people in groups, to the point that they'll believe any nonsense that telephone game's their way.
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Nov 11, 2014 05:46
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm not going to say your family isn't being needlessly paranoid, but people being randomly attacked for no good reason was a thing that happened during the LA riots. On national TV. There was that. On the other hand people here, today, are not in gang-infested 1992 Los Angeles. St. Louis in 2014 is rather different.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm not going to say your family isn't being needlessly paranoid, but people being randomly attacked for no good reason was a thing that happened during the LA riots. On national TV. Yes, Reginald Denny is on the lips of every terrified prepper ever. They have PTSD about seeing it.
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I'm pretty far behind on news regarding this. Has an official autopsy report been released yet?
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Stultus Maximus posted:On the other hand people here, today, are not in gang-infested 1992 Los Angeles. St. Louis in 2014 is rather different.
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Zerilan posted:I'm pretty far behind on news regarding this. Has an official autopsy report been released yet? Yes. All that can be actually confirmed from the new autopsy report is that Brown was shot at extremely close range during the scuffle in Wilson's SUV (I think at least twice). The media immediately jumped on this as "proof" that Brown tried to grab Wilson's gun because their articles are written by biased fucktards.
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I want to say that while I believe that Zimmerman should not have even been charged for killing Trayvon Martin, I still think what he did was morally reprehensible and he is a completely insane racist shitbird. The same goes for Darren Wilson. Even if evidence comes forth that legally exonerates him from shooting Michael Brown, it still looks to me like someone was trying to catch a runaway slave. So basically what I'm saying is that even though what someone is doing may be technically legal, that doesn't make it automatically morally acceptable.chitoryu12 posted:Yes. All that can be actually confirmed from the new autopsy report is that Brown was shot at extremely close range during the scuffle in Wilson's SUV (I think at least twice). The media immediately jumped on this as "proof" that Brown tried to grab Wilson's gun because their articles are written by biased fucktards. I've been saying again and again, what happened during the "tussle" is of less legal important than what he was doing immediately before he was shot. Also just because there was a "tussle", doesn't mean that Michael Brown was automatically at fault. Brown could have very well been acting in self defense against an insane cop who slammed a car door into him and grabbed his neck for no other reason than he refused to get out of the middle of the street. quote:A Texas teacher who posted a profanity-filled tweet over the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. -- telling those who disagreed with her to "kill themselves" -- is being fired, school officials said Monday. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/10/racially-charged-tweet-on-ferguson-shooting-gets-texas-teacher-fired/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork Apthous fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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lurker1981 posted:Then why are people protesting and rioting if they don't even know yet whether he will be put on trial? Because it looks likely that Wilson will walk without even a trial. If the Grand Jury does not indict him, that means that there will be no trial, and since that is gross injustice, it is predictable that it will be protested. This may or may mot lead to riots, but will be characterized as such if at all possible.
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Apthous posted:
Pretty much a do as I say not as I do deal with whites. Go on a rant about blacks and plead the first if you're white. Go on a rant about whites if you're black and watch as former first amendment fans forget about "freedom of speech"
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Peven Stan posted:Pretty much a do as I say not as I do deal with whites. Go on a rant about blacks and plead the first if you're white. Go on a rant about whites if you're black and watch as former first amendment fans forget about "freedom of speech" I know I'm not a racist because that story made me remember how much I hate teachers and I basically forgot/ignored the fact she is black.
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Peven Stan posted:Pretty much a do as I say not as I do deal with whites. Go on a rant about blacks and plead the first if you're white. Go on a rant about whites if you're black and watch as former first amendment fans forget about "freedom of speech" Tell that to Anthony Cumia
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Apthous posted:I know I'm not a racist because Some Reason.
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Astrofig posted:You know what makes me angriest about this whole situation? The white people acting like THEY'RE the ones who are about to be in danger. Sorry, last I checked the heavily-armed soldiers with riot shields and Sabre Red spray were not there to protect the crowds of protesters! Is it just in their nature to fear black people in groups or what? That's an artifact of the very real fear of slave revolts and uprisings, later refined into narratives about blacks rising up and killing whites in revenge for being treated like poo poo throughout America's history. That's always in the back of their mind and, to be honest, pretty much a curse of being a straight white racist.
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towelieban posted:Tell that to Anthony Cumia He went on the racial rant because a woman stood up to him for taking creepshots on the street in NYC. It was the combination of racism and invasive perversion that got him fired.
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Everyday Lurker posted:That's an artifact of the very real fear of slave revolts and uprisings, later refined into narratives about blacks rising up and killing whites in revenge for being treated like poo poo throughout America's history. That's always in the back of their mind and, to be honest, pretty much a curse of being a straight white racist. There's also the fact that they are visibly the 'other', so every incident in which someone black does anything bad/weird isn't some sort of bad apple, but a further indication to dislike and distrust all of them. It also reinforces the existing stereotypes that are prevalent and reinforces a racist worldview. You also have a fairly pervasive network of hucksters and actual, honest to god race-baiters in the right-wing hate machine who will find whatever story and make sure that it's out there. The "Liberal" media manages to somehow add to this, though not as bad as the full on hate machine. Add in deliberate government efforts over the entirety of our countries existence to treat black people worse, from the days when lynching was acceptable in some areas (late '60s even?) to the drug war, re-segregation, further cuts/curtailment of any civil rights laws (even up to today) and then you've got legitimate data that a sizable portion of the adult black population is convicted felons, and obviously "that's just facts". Rather than wondering why that is, and why say stop-and-frisk stops blacks more often than whites even though you'd have to be stupid to think that whites aren't doing drugs at an equal or even higher level, or why more often than not a white person will get abuse treatment or leniency but a black person won't, instead it feeds in to the racism. You even have people who want to have the zombies/thugs/ferals actually rise up so they can put them back in their place, or people who saw food stamps getting cut and were expecting riots without any idea that whites would be doing the same if in the same position. Hearing that "slavery ended 150 years ago so they should stop whining" without any sort of irony about what happened after reconstruction ended or even after the CRA was passed is frightening. Or similar things about Native Americans actually wanting treaty obligations from the late 1800's actually enforced (fishing on Lake Michigan for instance).
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Everyday Lurker posted:That's an artifact of the very real fear of slave revolts and uprisings, later refined into narratives about blacks rising up and killing whites in revenge for being treated like poo poo throughout America's history. That's always in the back of their mind and, to be honest, pretty much a curse of being a straight white racist. Yes white people living in/near Ferguson are afraid of race riots because the fear of a slave uprising is embedded in their racial collective unconscious/DNA. Jesus Christ D&D. ----------------
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Narciss posted:Yes white people living in/near Ferguson are afraid of race riots because the fear of a slave uprising is embedded in their racial collective unconscious/DNA. Jesus Christ D&D. It's almost as if he's suggesting that such a belief could be transferred down, father to son, mother to daughter, being slowly evolved with the time to justify having the same basic core belief, just with slightly different reasoning, until the actual reasoning that started it is now ridiculous. But still the core belief exists as something very real and even has real world consequences! Gee, what an amazing leap in logic.
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Narciss posted:Yes white people living in/near Ferguson are afraid of race riots because the fear of a slave uprising is embedded in their racial collective unconscious/DNA. Jesus Christ D&D. Good point, if he had said that it would have been pretty dumb. God damnit D & D!!!
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towelieban posted:Tell that to Anthony Cumia McDowell posted:He went on the racial rant because a woman stood up to him for taking creepshots on the street in NYC. It was the combination of racism and invasive perversion that got him fired. Sincerely doubt he would have been fired for taking pictures. Even if they were creepy. GAPO fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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GAPO posted:Sincerely doubt he would have been fired for taking pictures. Even if they were creepy. Nope, he brought it on himself by having a public race rant temper tantrum when someone stood up to him. But please, keep canonizing a guy who entertained people by reading chimpout.com on the radio. Really makes you look good.
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