|
waitwhatno posted:I have no idea what point you are trying to make, so have some videos from everyday life in Russia instead:
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 19:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 10:53 |
|
|
It looks like there's a campaign by the various Ukrainian embassy and diplomatic Twitter accounts to share the Bellingcat report, looks like they are all up to it at the moment.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 19:43
|
|
|
Brown Moses posted:It looks like there's a campaign by the various Ukrainian embassy and diplomatic Twitter accounts to share the Bellingcat report, looks like they are all up to it at the moment. That's great. I wonder if your report is confirming what our ambassador and diplomatic staff have already been told in secret by US intelligence. Or, given the disconnect we've seen between open source and intelligence agencies in the past, you just gave some pentagon analyst the WORST Monday.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:01
|
|
|
drilldo squirt posted:You're dumb as hell dude. Probably, but at least I'm not the guy who thinks that knowing some semi-dirty jokes is a tell-tale sign of a criminal or that nepotism in rich guy cliques is equal to mafia membership. THAT would be a real bummer.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:02
|
|
|
Without being able to go into too much details I've had some interested chats with people in the know, and while they can't say things overtly they've given some very heavy winks and nods when I've discussed our work with them.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:02
|
|
|
kalstrams posted:Tuberculosis?
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:06
|
|
|
waitwhatno posted:Probably, but at least I'm not the guy who thinks that knowing some semi-dirty jokes is a tell-tale sign of a criminal or that nepotism in rich guy cliques is equal to mafia membership. THAT would be a real bummer. I'm glad you accept that your a really loving stupid person. It's good to accept yourself for who you are.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:07
|
|
|
So it looks like various Ukrainian political parties have come to an agreement/signed a document on principles of formation of coalition agreement. (With some reports that the actual coalition agreement may finally come Friday). Participating parties are the Poroshenko block, People's front, Self-help, Fatherland, and Radical party (the last of which will raise some eyebrows in comfortable offices in Europe and another round of "the Nazis are coming" from Russian media, this time telling people that their babies will be pierced through with pitchforks before being eaten).
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:15
|
|
|
Brown Moses posted:Without being able to go into too much details I've had some interested chats with people in the know, and while they can't say things overtly they've given some very heavy winks and nods when I've discussed our work with them. Do you ever get threats or anything? You gotta be pissing off some powerful people.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:17
|
|
|
drilldo squirt posted:I'm glad you accept that your a really loving stupid person. It's good to accept yourself for who you are. Absolute pathetic retort so I claim victory by default. Time for me to stop making GBS threads up this thread though, I actually like it. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:21
|
|
|
drilldo squirt posted:Do you ever get threats or anything? You gotta be pissing off some powerful people. Mainly just people being arseholes on Twitter, nothing serious.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:23
|
|
|
I thought that was everyone's default setting for twitter. Seems like it some times. Now that the media is giving this attention, how much fun do you think the Russian media will give you? I remember RT coming after you pretty hard with your work on Syria.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:48
|
|
|
waitwhatno posted:Absolute pathetic retort so I claim victory by default. Time for me to stop making GBS threads up this thread though, I actually like it. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:51
|
|
|
Brown Moses posted:Mainly just people being arseholes on Twitter, nothing serious. Does anyone still use the incredibly clever 'Brown Poo-Poo' nickname?
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:53
|
|
|
McDowell posted:Does anyone still use the incredibly clever 'Brown Poo-Poo' nickname? There's someone who has spent about 3 months creating multiple accounts to call me a fat oval office on a nearly daily basis. HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I thought that was everyone's default setting for twitter. Seems like it some times. There last effort was this when I last wrote about MH17. Note how they make sure they're clear they aren't talking about me only, even though it's obvious they are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDvCzzrYLM0&t=332s I see the spokesman for the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry also has Tweeted about the Bellingcat repeatedly too, so it's obviously got the attention of the Ukrainian government.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 20:58
|
|
|
RIA has launched it's new international news brand, Sputnik International. http://sputniknews.com/  Looks like Al Jazeera to me. Maybe the new network will have a story about you soon, Brown Moses.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 21:58
|
|
|
What a bizarre typeface on that lead headline.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 22:00
|
|
|
Congratulations to Irina and Alonya, the first lesbian couple to marry in Russia. http://proud-a.blogspot.com/2014/11/GayMarriage.Russia.html
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 22:38
|
|
|
HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Congratulations to Irina and Alonya, the first lesbian couple to marry in Russia. When the anti-gay laws started to get passed, a lot of people thought that gay couples would still be able to register their marriages at the ЗАГС (its the equivalent of a court house wedding) because there is nothing in the laws that prohibits those marriages. It's a good thing that it's happening, and hopefully these decisions stick. Most Russians get married this way by the way, a "court house" wedding followed by a lavish dinner with drinking and partying. Church ceremonies are much less common, even today.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 23:02
|
|
|
Pycckuu posted:When the anti-gay laws started to get passed, a lot of people thought that gay couples would still be able to register their marriages at the ЗАГС (its the equivalent of a court house wedding) because there is nothing in the laws that prohibits those marriages. It's a good thing that it's happening, and hopefully these decisions stick. Nope, Russian Family Code (1995) strictly defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Lawmakers want it to be also defined in Constitution, as if they are afraid that anyone can challenge that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 23:19
|
|
|
fatherboxx posted:Nope, Russian Family Code (1995) strictly defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Lawmakers want it to be also defined in Constitution, as if they are afraid that anyone can challenge that. I wasn't aware of the 1995 law, I guess it must be the reason why the "gay marriage" idea did not really get brought up until it became a thing in Western Europe. Does that mean this marriage is technically invalid then? Or did it get defined as something else (like a civil union or something)?
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 23:32
|
|
|
Pycckuu posted:I wasn't aware of the 1995 law, I guess it must be the reason why the "gay marriage" idea did not really get brought up until it became a thing in Western Europe. If you read the article, one of the women is trans, and by Russian law still a man. Don't worry, Vitaliy Milonov has already promised to deal with this insult and abomination. http://news.yahoo.com/russian-couple-registers-first-same-sex-marriage-140903966.html
|
|
#
?
Nov 11, 2014 23:38
|
|
|
Somaen posted:What? There is absolutely no way something of this scale could happen without his full approval. Rosneft wouldn't be able to force the courts to approve the arrest of a multi billionaire. It's definitely someone in his inner circle, but it's not him directly. This is clearly just a ploy to get the guy to sell his shares. If Putin was involved it would be Yukos 2.0 and no playing around with house arrest.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 00:05
|
|
|
Panas posted:It's definitely someone in his inner circle, but it's not him directly. This is clearly just a ploy to get the guy to sell his shares. If Putin was involved it would be Yukos 2.0 and no playing around with house arrest. I don't agree. Russia was just fined 50 billion in favour of Yukos in the Hague ruling, Putin was under huge international pressure for the poo poo he pulled and Chodorkovksy was an overt political threat who financed opposition and had some serious organisational experience, money and connections, therefore he was made an example for the others. Evtushenkov is either money to bail out Rosneft with their debt and credit problems OR Kremlin's move to bring under control the crucial industries - Putin is not the beneficiary but no one would dare pull something like this without his blessing, since capital is fleeing Russia in huge amounts and some schmuks from the Kremlin deciding to take over business when they feel like it would make even more businessmen pack their suitcases.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 01:05
|
|
|
MSN's article about traveling to occupied Crimea is just plain weird. It's a travel guide on how to do it illegally if you really want to go, and then ends with the The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office saying don't go to Crimea, Donetsk or Luhansk regions of Ukraine. http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/crimea-under-russian-rule-what-has-changed-for-travellers/ar-AA7A8AD
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 01:38
|
|
|
Also, one of Putin's advisors told a Swedish newspaper that the swedes have nothing to fear from Russia, but the same doesn't apply to Estonia and Latvia. Those countries would be razed to the ground in an all out war, according to him. Is it just me or has everyone in Russia's political elite gone entirely nuts in the last year or so?
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 01:40
|
|
|
Somaen posted:I don't agree. Russia was just fined 50 billion in favour of Yukos in the Hague ruling, Putin was under huge international pressure for the poo poo he pulled and Chodorkovksy was an overt political threat who financed opposition and had some serious organisational experience, money and connections, therefore he was made an example for the others. Evtushenkov is either money to bail out Rosneft with their debt and credit problems OR Kremlin's move to bring under control the crucial industries - Putin is not the beneficiary but no one would dare pull something like this without his blessing, since capital is fleeing Russia in huge amounts and some schmuks from the Kremlin deciding to take over business when they feel like it would make even more businessmen pack their suitcases. Russia probably won't pay that fine. There has been talk of changing Russian laws so that they're no longer beholden to international law. We'll see what happens to that. Putin needs to keep his inner circle and the elites he relies on happy. Yevtushenkov by all accounts wasn't someone to play politics or get involved with the decisions being made at the top. That is probably why he's being sacrificed to keep Sechin happy. I think you overestimate how much direct control Putin has, he's really dependent on the people around him now that he's been isolated by the international community. Also the problem with bringing all the crucial industries under Kremlin control, is that all the crucial industries (i.e. resource extraction) are all the ones that the oligarchs make their fortunes off of. That would be the quickest way to lose elite support.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 02:36
|
|
|
HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:RIA has launched it's new international news brand, Sputnik International. StandardVC10 posted:What a bizarre typeface on that lead headline.      ^ That last image is great. It's not Tsarist, not Soviet, but combines elements of both while being something else. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Nov 12, 2014 |
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 03:00
|
|
|
RT had fallen too much to the loony left, so now they need something mainstream again?
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 03:28
|
|
|
eigenstate posted:RT had fallen too much to the loony left, so now they need something mainstream again? If RT is like Voice of America, Sputnik is like RFE/RL (to compare them to the U.S. propaganda networks). Of course, Russia gives its networks a much bigger budget. The Kremlin prioritizes propaganda and information warfare. I don't know the full reasons for it, but I'd think it's a more effective way of subverting U.S. influence, which Russia can't match in military terms. And it also reflects what the Kremlin fears the most, i.e. foreign propaganda promoting internal dissent and revolution. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 12, 2014 |
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 03:42
|
|
|
Omi-Polari posted:Kind of. It's replacing RIA Novosti, which *was* a sober, mainstream, and fairly trustworthy international news agency, until it went through the Putin grinder. Er, I thought Voice of America was generally better respected than Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 03:44
|
|
|
Nintendo Kid posted:Er, I thought Voice of America was generally better respected than Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 03:47
|
|
|
HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:MSN's article about traveling to occupied Crimea is just plain weird. It's a travel guide on how to do it illegally if you really want to go, and then ends with the The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office saying don't go to Crimea, Donetsk or Luhansk regions of Ukraine. Speaking of traveling to occupied Crimea, here's a souvenir shop in Sevastapol: https://www.flickr.com/photos/31357475@N08/15766281111
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 04:05
|
|
|
A decent article about some of the smaller separatist groups, including Cossacks: http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/how-russia-sells-itself-to-donbas It's unfortunate because there's obviously a 0% chance that they could ever avoid being run by Moscow. Even if they could somehow be granted actual autonomy, they don't have the specialists or the economic/civil infrastructure they'd need for it to not be a poo poo-show.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 05:04
|
|
|
Actually your anonymity is not so big weakness that can be found in your so called investigation. But of course it will be first thing that give a reason to not take it seriously.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 08:44
|
|
|
TeodorMorozov posted:Actually your anonymity is not so big weakness that can be found in your so called investigation. much like your posting
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 08:56
|
|
|
OhYeah posted:Also, one of Putin's advisors told a Swedish newspaper that the swedes have nothing to fear from Russia, but the same doesn't apply to Estonia and Latvia. Those countries would be razed to the ground in an all out war, according to him.  Link please?
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 11:24
|
|
|
Well, militarily speaking that is correct? That the Baltics get completely hosed in a Nato Russia war is an entirely true thing which noone would seriously dispute? And that Russia would rather not open an additional front with Sweden (not a Nato nation) in a Russia-Nato war is also pretty true? As in "in the event of a Nato Russia war, Sweden and Switzerland have propably the best odds of surviving, Sweden more so because they got more arable land then the Swiss and have harbors to get food from somewhere else. Their odds of surviving are btw. better then Russias. The Baltics would be completely and utterly hosed, and have pretty much the worst odds of any participant."
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 11:32
|
|
|
Skeesix posted:
It was reported by http://www.aftonbladet.se/, I don't think they have an English version.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 11:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 10:53 |
|
|
Mightypeon posted:Well, militarily speaking that is correct? And without NATO we would be hosed (with) anyway unless we reached the military strength (to some Finns this may sound ridiculous).... of Finland.
|
|
#
?
Nov 12, 2014 12:18
|
|