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BONGHITZ posted:drive i'm pretty sure my car would fall apart like at the end of the blues brothers if i drove it two hours five days a week and i'm not buying a new car for one of those contract to hire scams
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Nov 12, 2014 09:05
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rotor posted:valeyard I thought we talked about this I'll write an x word apology thread if it means I can post in peace Luigi Thirty posted:ugh well i found some 6 month contract-to-hire thing for a django developer near me in tampa (the listing says 2 years experience) but they want me to quote them a rate per hour and salary range and idk what to tell them for that This sounds like my dream job
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Nov 12, 2014 09:14
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Luigi Thirty posted:ugh well i found some 6 month contract-to-hire thing for a django developer near me in tampa (the listing says 2 years experience) but they want me to quote them a rate per hour and salary range and idk what to tell them for that take your most recent salary, calc what that would be hourly and at least double it for the quote
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Nov 12, 2014 12:15
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hi what can i do with forth or a forth-like forth seems fun
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Nov 12, 2014 17:52
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whoops this is the terrible programmer thread, not the programming language thread
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Nov 12, 2014 17:52
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Werthog 95 posted:hi what can i do with forth or a forth-like anything you want dude write a forth then write a forth interpreter in your forth then write a typed forth compiler that is run through your forth interpreter
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Nov 12, 2014 17:55
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FamDav posted:anything you want dude and after those three, you can write a fourth forth
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Nov 12, 2014 18:40
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Microsoft Takes .NET Open Source And Cross-Platform
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Nov 12, 2014 18:43
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i'm a terrible programmer and google wants me to do a phone screen lol. lets see if i can become non terrible in a few weeks.
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Nov 12, 2014 18:46
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Papes posted:i'm a terrible programmer and google wants me to do a phone screen lol. lets see if i can become non terrible in a few weeks. good luck 
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Nov 12, 2014 18:47
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Snapchat A Titty posted:take your most recent salary, calc what that would be hourly and at least double it for the quote yah this
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Nov 12, 2014 19:03
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Snapchat A Titty posted:take your most recent salary, calc what that would be hourly and at least double it for the quote i work retail, which is why my car is falling apart and I have no savings to get one that will drive me up there and back every day 
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Nov 12, 2014 19:24
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better to living poverty for ever than commute for a mile
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Nov 12, 2014 19:32
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DimpledChad posted:and after those three, you can write a fourth forth lol
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Nov 12, 2014 19:33
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Jesus said that, i think
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yah i did
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Nov 12, 2014 19:48
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BONGHITZ posted:better to living poverty for ever than commute for a mile yeah, jesus l30. dont sweat dumb details like your car status when you looking at a job that could get you out of retail forever jfc
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Nov 12, 2014 20:02
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Luigi Thirty posted:i work retail, which is why my car is falling apart and I have no savings to get one that will drive me up there and back every day you will be fine, get that money and pay off whatever little debt you got into to get a sweet job
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Nov 12, 2014 20:04
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Ploft-shell crab posted:yeah, jesus l30. I wouldn't if it wasn't contract-to-(not-)hire this still doesn't answer my original question of how to figure out what pay rate to tell them because doubling 8 doesn't seem like a very good way to go
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Nov 12, 2014 20:10
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look on glassdoor for companies near you and their rates for developers of your experience, then multiply by 1.5. maybe around 50?
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Nov 12, 2014 20:16
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Luigi Thirty posted:I wouldn't if it wasn't contract-to-(not-)hire I have no clue about any of this poo poo or what salaries are like in your area, but if it was me in your position I would ask for something around 50 and maybe let them talk me down to 40 or 45.
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Nov 12, 2014 20:20
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yea i guess look up some salaries and use them as a base if you dont have one yourself
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Nov 12, 2014 21:23
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Valeyard posted:I'll write an x word apology thread if it means I can post in peace just rereg. your brand is tainted.
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Nov 12, 2014 22:32
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bobbilljim posted:just rereg. your brand is tainted. is it worse than quadruple sulk's dog
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Nov 12, 2014 22:41
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bobbilljim posted:just rereg. your brand is tainted. srsly Luigi Thirty posted:is it worse than quadruple sulk's dog I'd say it was on par
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Nov 12, 2014 22:59
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Luigi Thirty posted:is it worse than quadruple sulk's dog worse really, no1 is complaining about triple sulk, even though he gets riffed on about the pugs. he owned his situation
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Nov 12, 2014 23:16
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rotor posted:I'd say it was on par
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Nov 12, 2014 23:20
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Luigi Thirty posted:I wouldn't if it wasn't contract-to-(not-)hire working a professional job for $16 an hour still builds a much better resume than working retail for $8 the amount doesn't matter at all just get your foot jammed in the drat door, worry about getting paid at your next gig.
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Nov 13, 2014 00:54
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this is like tcc, you are not allowed to state prices
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Nov 13, 2014 01:07
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lots of places do contract to hire these days, unless you have an indication that they don't typically convert I wouldn't worry about it
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Nov 13, 2014 01:20
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My company outsources with a firm out of India for some stuff and their going rate is $35/hour which is the most cutrate poo poo ever and their work quality is loving horrible. I think you have some play in what you reply with. That said, BSD's advice is really good and think about your 'pay' for this gig being a solid reference that you can use for the next job (and higher rate).
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Nov 13, 2014 01:23
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beaster developers go for like 40/45, but kush dev can charge upwards of $100 or more!!!
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Nov 13, 2014 01:26
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rotor posted:lots of places do contract to hire these days, unless you have an indication that they don't typically convert I wouldn't worry about it ya my place of hire does a lot of contract to hire stuff, in fact that is how i got my foot in the door i was a contractor first doing leased line like T1/T3 stuff repair from a NOC side, which i was gonna get hired on for perm i found out except my boss called me up on the weekend like "hey your past exp on your resume is all (computer network) stuff, call this lady" and i did and got the job internally in a different group doing what i do now. owns.
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Nov 13, 2014 01:27
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rotor posted:lots of places do contract to hire these days, unless you have an indication that they don't typically convert I wouldn't worry about it it is a company that actually makes useful products instead of a bullshit web startup so this is probably the case
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Nov 13, 2014 01:28
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fake it till u make it ala don draper
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Nov 13, 2014 01:41
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rotor posted:lots of places do contract to hire these days, unless you have an indication that they don't typically convert I wouldn't worry about it i am really suspicious of contract-to-hire in general. not because i don't think they'll actually hire, but because it has a lot of incentive problems that said luigi 30 just needs to get a toehold in the industry. the conditions of his employment do not matter at all as long as the resume bullet points are right just get your year or two of experience and do what you gotta do
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as a contractor you exchange low job security and poo poo benefits for higher pay and some control over your hours as an employee, you take a shittier salary in exchange for the warm embrace of corporate life -- reasonable job security + bennies/perks so when you post a contract-to-hire job, who the gently caress do you get as applicants? contractors don't need to be hired. they just want to get paid. advertising "contract-to-hire" indicates you don't really want to pay top dollar. only a truly desperate contractor will even apply, because all his normal leads have dried up and there are no other advertisements potential employees don't want to be on a contract. they want health insurance and an FSA and a 401k, and the assurance they won't be fired if it can be avoided. what kind of reliable, risk-averse company man signs up to be a contract just for chance at a job offer at the end? the unemployed, hapless loser kind contract-to-hire just makes no god drat sense as a strategy
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Nov 13, 2014 03:06
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contract-to-hire is loving bullshit because legally contractors set their own hours but lmfao if you think these places allow that
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:as a contractor you exchange low job security and poo poo benefits for higher pay and some control over your hours except there's a fair few unemployed, hapless loser kinds that can probably do the work. i'm guessing the only real downside of contract-to-hire is the turnover rate as their good hires head for greener pastures.
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