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KKKlean Energy posted:Or we could just hire the staff directly. We could hire them on a performance-based reward contract, maybe something like "you get a percentage of total tax take from corporations, especially accountancy firms" basis. Tax farming ends up with the tax authorities screwing over the weakest to maximise their tax takings and ignoring the rich, if they themselves aren't the rich, which they tend to be.
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KKKlean Energy posted:Or we could just hire the staff directly. We could hire them on a performance-based reward contract, maybe something like "you get a percentage of total tax take from corporations, especially accountancy firms" basis. Some tax authorities in Africa do this - it can lead to corruption, especially in the run up to Christmas time. serious gaylord posted:Didnt 2 of the people responsible for some of the new corporate taxation laws leave and go and work for one of the big firms earlier this year? I remember a bit of a hoo ha about it. Correct. Wolfsbane posted:What sort of understanding of the law do you think they're going to get from talking to KPMG and PwC? I'm not sure that the things they think need fixing bear much resemblance to the things you or I might think need fixing. Well, taking the CFO of Starbucks at his word, they have a global tax rate of 33%. Yet the Public Accounts Committee doesn't understand enough about (i) UK corporation tax to understand how a company may legitimately not be paying any tax* in the UK, (ii) OECD principles to understand Starbucks' obligation to charge arm's length prices for internal goods or services, or (iii) GAAP differences to understand why numbers might be different under US and UK GAAPs. It just leads to showboating and no informed analysis, insight or criticism - ultimately it's a missed opportunity. * That's corporation tax only, of course. The current estimate by PwC is businesses pay £2.8 in other taxes for every £1 in CT. Prince John fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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Nov 12, 2014 13:46
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Holy poo poo that Telegraph front page.
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Darth Walrus posted:Holy poo poo that Telegraph front page. Hard to believe that he's the same age as the youngest soldier to die at the Somme.  What a bloody mess.Nice to see Rosetta making the front page.
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Nov 12, 2014 17:28
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£200k in secondments from somewhere like PWC is probably about two employees for about three months, maybe a little longer.
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Prince John posted:Hard to believe that he's the same age as the youngest soldier to die at the Somme. And, of course, the best way to 'honour' their deaths is with a great big photo-op to advertise for the CCF.  Seriously, guys, I know Remembrance Day has been getting increasingly sleazy in its whitewashing and glorification of war, but this is how you're going to cap off your ceremony? Really?
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Nov 12, 2014 18:10
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A friend of mine wrote this last year during the poppy shenanigans, I think it's really good. http://hammerandseagull.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/the-old-lie-and-the-cult-of-remembrance/
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this now seems more respectful than some of the actual poo poo that is happening now
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JFairfax posted:this now seems more respectful than some of the actual poo poo that is happening now Was at a primary school Remembrance Day assembly yesterday and the HT actually said "ARE FREEDUMS" referring to the reason for The First World War. I'm fairly certain she was reading from a script or notes by the DFE or Legion.
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JFairfax posted:this now seems more respectful than some of the actual poo poo that is happening now I remember when the Amiga Power/Royal British Legion/Cannon Fodder thing kicked off that noted transphobe Wings In Scotland (Aka Amiga Power editor Stuart Campbell) said that with it's remembrance garden and individual roll of honour of all of the names of the dead soldiers, Cannon Fodder was probably the most respectful and poignant depiction of war in a game ever.
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Speaking about Scottish independence, apparently Yes voters are getting their revenge by voting for Judy Murray to win Strictly. What the gently caress is wrong with the right-wing press. 
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TinTower posted:Speaking about Scottish independence, apparently Yes voters are getting their revenge by voting for Judy Murray to win Strictly. first you win the tv dancing contests then you get the power then you get the FREEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOM edit: also, happy days are here again because for the first time in five years, nominal wage growth (1.3%) has outstripped CPI inflation (1.2%). We're rich!
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thehustler posted:I remember when the Amiga Power/Royal British Legion/Cannon Fodder thing kicked off that noted transphobe Wings In Scotland (Aka Amiga Power editor Stuart Campbell) said that with it's remembrance garden and individual roll of honour of all of the names of the dead soldiers, Cannon Fodder was probably the most respectful and poignant depiction of war in a game ever. Given that it's pretty cynical and you get an ever increasing list of dead, it is definitely one of the most anti-war games ever made. Which explains why certain people take issue with it!
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Mister Adequate posted:Given that it's pretty cynical and you get an ever increasing list of dead, it is definitely one of the most anti-war games ever made. Which explains why certain people take issue with it!
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Nov 12, 2014 21:08
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Dame Vivienne in November's contender for 'most bourgie thing ever': http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/vivienne-westwood-advises-those-who-cant-afford-organic-food-to-eat-less-9856707.html?dkdk Slavoj Zizek posted:The exemplary figures of evil today are not ordinary consumers who pollute the environment and live in a violent world of disintegrating social links, but those who, while fully engaged in creating conditions for such universal devastation and pollution, buy their way out of their own activity, living in gated communities, eating organic food, taking holidays in wildlife preserves, and so on.
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Nov 12, 2014 21:35
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Not fair, she was already October's with her complaints that food and clothing were too cheap.
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Guavanaut posted:Dame Vivienne in November's contender for 'most bourgie thing ever':
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She's right. When eating the Rich, little and often is way more efficient than getting too bloated to catch them. e: A meal of a thousand cuts.
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Guavanaut posted:Dame Vivienne in November's contender for 'most bourgie thing ever': Is it though? I mean here she is saying to not let the poor eat cake. That's progress that is.
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But Westwood refused to back down. "You’ve got all these processed foods, which is the main reason people are getting fat,” she continued. “They’re not actually good for you - they don’t give you strength, they give you weight." This is correct. Also to an extent she is right about clothes, clothes SHOULD cost a lot more than they do, and one of the reasons they don't is the fact that people make t-shirts jeans and everything else for pennies a day in sweatshops. e/ also this is a pretty cool thing to have in your shop: “There are signs in my shops that say ‘buy less, choose well, make it last. I agree, fashion is a terrible thing, it’s all about tempting to buy. But they should buy less.” JFairfax fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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Nov 12, 2014 22:51
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JFairfax posted:But Westwood refused to back down. "You’ve got all these processed foods, which is the main reason people are getting fat,” she continued. “They’re not actually good for you - they don’t give you strength, they give you weight."  Unprocessed fresh food can be great if you can wash and eat it straight from the garden, but there are a lot of molds that produce highly carcinogenic mycotoxins like aflatoxin.
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I'm curious about which exact part of "processed" food (whatever that means) causes calories to turn directly into fat without ever being available for respiration.
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Burqa King posted:That is a very stirring picture. Stirring what, exactly?
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Renaissance Robot posted:I'm curious about which exact part of "processed" food (whatever that means) causes calories to turn directly into fat without ever being available for respiration. Many processed foods have lots of saturated fat or plenty of calories from carbs like sugar which provide the average sedentary person with far more calories than they need just for respiration and help them become a big fat number. One morbidly obese child is a tragedy. Middlesbrough is a statistic.
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JFairfax posted:Many processed foods have lots of saturated fat or plenty of calories from carbs like sugar which provide the average sedentary person with far more calories than they need just for respiration and help them become a big fat number. To which "eat less of that crap (and balance out your micros with cheap GM veg that is no different from organic as far as your gut cares)" would be a reasonable response. The clothes thing? Fine. Meat? Yeah we definitely rely way too much on it and should cut back [for the sake of our environment, not because eating any at all is immediately bad for us as individuals]. Naive statements like this: quote:if there was a movement to produce more organic food and less of the horrible food, then organic food would obviously be a good value price, wouldn’t it? and a refusal to acknowledge that maybe there are people who can barely afford enough food to keep their weight up as it is test my ability to believe she isn't just right by accident on the rest.
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quote:if there was a movement to produce more organic food and less of the horrible food, then organic food would obviously be a good value price, wouldn’t it? There are a lot of things in organic farming that are bad, like having to use less selective pesticides in higher volumes (I'm not sure about UK legality, but nicotine sulfate is a popular one, because it comes from a plant and is therefore organic and natural) which can cause runoff and environmental damage. Being less land efficient is an issue too. Ideally we could have self-contained aquaponic systems that could provide fresh food to local communities, they would be subsidized and non-hierarchical, and eliminate food deserts. There have already been a few projects in this area. For the moment though, making sure that people can actually afford to eat a variety of different foods that they enjoy and eliminating the necessity of food banks and the British Red Cross would be a good start.
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Renaissance Robot posted:and a refusal to acknowledge that maybe there are people who can barely afford enough food to keep their weight up as it is test my ability to believe she isn't just right by accident on the rest. Guavanaut posted:Ideally we could have self-contained aquaponic systems that could provide fresh food to local communities, they would be subsidized and non-hierarchical, and eliminate food deserts. There have already been a few projects in this area. For the moment though, making sure that people can actually afford to eat a variety of different foods that they enjoy and eliminating the necessity of food banks and the British Red Cross would be a good start. Was gonna say the above then this appeared. I have heard of those warehouse sized Hydroponics farms, like that one in Japan that's in the spotlight currently. Whats the costs like on that thing? I know it can pump out a lot of veg but the initial costs and the costs of running it weren't really talked about in what I've read. I love the idea but there are some things that put me at a bit less than optimistic. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:I have heard of those warehouse sized Hydroponics farms, like that one in Japan that's in the spotlight currently. With standard hydroponics you also need fertilizer input, but with the aquaponic setup you have fish or other river life, bacteria, and plants. They form a closed loop so the fish eat rotting plant bits and their poo poo provides fertilizer, so the main inputs after setup are light and human management. I'm sure there are unseen costs, but one of the projects that I've been following is Colorado Aquaponics, which set out with the aim of providing local food and jobs, targeting food deserts. http://www.coloradoaquaponics.com/ e: I realize that's not really a useful cost/acre or cost/ton of lettuce figure or whatever, but I don't know a good source for those. If anyone has some good comparisons I'd be interested though. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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KKKlean Energy posted:I'll form a tax policy for free: Eat the rich leftists say this a lot but they clearly have never thought it through. how will we eat the rich? sautee them? grill? frying?
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Sandwiches could prove problematic
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Farecoal posted:leftists say this a lot but they clearly have never thought it through. how will we eat the rich? sautee them? grill? frying? Depends on the kind of rich. Financial executives can be fried pretty much in their own oil, but rural toffs need to be chargrilled really.
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JFairfax posted:Sandwiches could prove problematic The revolution tears itself apart. The cause? Straight or diagonal cut. Also I think if Red Ed has to say "I can totes be PM you guys, take me seriously", he's a lost cause.
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Farecoal posted:leftists say this a lot but they clearly have never thought it through. how will we eat the rich? sautee them? grill? frying? We clearly need rich people flavour Monster Munch.
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Farecoal posted:leftists say this a lot but they clearly have never thought it through. how will we eat the rich? sautee them? grill? frying? Raw.
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Farecoal posted:leftists say this a lot but they clearly have never thought it through. how will we eat the rich? sautee them? grill? frying? Douse them in extra hot Encona after burning them a bit over an open fire. Works well for squirrel!
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tbh im npt so into eating the rich themselves, for they seem to be gamey, old, and withered. I want their pump, fleshy, bourgie children to cook and eat.
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In pies, obviously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atSbk0vLuRw quote:How gratifying, for once to know, that those above will serve those down below! Kegluneq fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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JFairfax posted:Many processed foods have lots of saturated fat or plenty of calories from carbs like sugar which provide the average sedentary person with far more calories than they need just for respiration and help them become a big fat number. A Banana has almost as much sugar as a Mars Bar.
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Dapper Laughs cancelled his tour and isn't on TV any more, retires the 'character'. So not everything is poo poo all the time after all.
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