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John Carstairs posted:Maybe. I heard the dude who built it used to box, so he might also punch things outside the robot. It would be cool if instead of being very maudlin and sad they play it off like that one dude last season who thought his granddad was dying and got back in to respect his last request but it turns out the old dude was just messing around because he was lazy.
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"I USE THIS GUNPLA BECAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER MADE IT BEFORE HE WENT AWAY TO THE HOSPITAL..." "Uh bro I just broke my arm, they just needed a cast, I'm fine. Hello?"
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Sharkopath posted:"I USE THIS GUNPLA BECAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER MADE IT BEFORE HE WENT AWAY TO THE HOSPITAL..." That would be the best way to parody Shin Asuka to be honest.
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I'm just interested in how Simon is going to turn the Destiny Gundam, a unit built to be well-rounded in terms of melee and ranged combat, into a unit who's main form of combat is boxing.
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AradoBalanga posted:I'm just interested in how Simon is going to turn the Destiny Gundam, a unit built to be well-rounded in terms of melee and ranged combat, into a unit who's main form of combat is boxing. The Destiny has beam cannon hands, dude.
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It doesn't have beam legs, though, which will hopefully prove to be a fatal flaw. I want the next episode to be Zeta Gundam: The Episode and have Sekai and Simon get into an actual fistfight over Gunpla.
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mr. stefan posted:The Destiny has beam cannon hands, dude. Then again, this is Build Fighters, so I am all set for a Palma Focina Dempsey Roll.
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AradoBalanga posted:Yeah, that require an open palm to fire. He fires them into his balled fist making the BeamFists! 
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"If I clench my fist just as I fire my Palma Fiocina cannon, it'll be the equivalent of punching you with a hand grenade!" "... Won't that result in your hand, and maybe your entire arm, getting blown off?" "Details."
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Pureauthor posted:"If I clench my fist just as I fire my Palma Fiocina cannon, it'll be the equivalent of punching you with a hand grenade!" Them's just Destiny tactics, son. Unrelated to Destiny guy, I hope at some point we get a within team fight. Sekai and Yuuma seem about ready to go at it at any time, and I really want to see Fumina just trash both of them to get them to straighten up and get their heads out of their asses.
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I'm just going to say it again because it got lost in the kerfuffle, but I really want to see a team of the original MGS dudes: Gundam, Guncannon and Guntank.
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I just watched the episode this afternoon, why do they have an exact replica of Slegger?
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Tae posted:I just watched the episode this afternoon, why do they have an exact replica of Slegger? I presume the same reason they have one of Ramba Ral.
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Tae posted:I just watched the episode this afternoon, why do they have an exact replica of Slegger? Gundam Valhalla.
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ImpAtom posted:I presume the same reason they have one of Ramba Ral. And why Sekai's master is a Domon clone. And why a younger Domon got to build a Gunpla WITH THE HELP OF KYOJI. And why Char came to laugh at Sei's dad. And why Bernie isn't being served with a side of fries and a diet soda.
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StrifeHira posted:And why Bernie isn't being served with a side of fries and a diet soda.  This episode's music owned super fuckin' hard.
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I liked this episode, I liked how Fumina was the turning point of the fight. You can say "Well Yuuma and Sekai killed their dudes" and you would be right, but that wouldn't have happened if Fumina hadn't thrown their opponents for a loop. Until Fumina separated into smaller parts, things were not going in Team Try Fighters' favor. It was her actions, her plan, and her parts that won the day. I will admit, in my heart of hearts, that I do regret that the show won't be Mirai/Fumina/Gyanko tearing stuff up. That would be overkill, and pandering in an odd way, but it'd still be fun to watch.
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I feel like the show's biggest misstep so far is that despite being a team-based format, the team does everything as individuals. You would think for a massive team based tournament they'd actually do any of their prepwork together at any point. I know it's for dramatic purposes but it's really silly how none of them even knew what their teammates' upgrades were until the day of the fight(or the night before in the case of Winning Road). They really should be making some attempt to synergize as a team at all, but instead they're writing them like three individual fighters instead of a team.
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Kanos posted:I feel like the show's biggest misstep so far is that despite being a team-based format, the team does everything as individuals. You would think for a massive team based tournament they'd actually do any of their prepwork together at any point. I know it's for dramatic purposes but it's really silly how none of them even knew what their teammates' upgrades were until the day of the fight(or the night before in the case of Winning Road). They really should be making some attempt to synergize as a team at all, but instead they're writing them like three individual fighters instead of a team. It's rough because the recent fights have been in the second half of an episode so each individual fight feels incredibly rushed. Not that they necessarily need more time to make them good (The Gyanko fight this episode was quick and entertaining) but it does feel like they've been hurting for time such that each character has been going through the same beats for their individual fights. I'm really hoping that's the last of the generic mooks. When they fought Gyanko we got a little bit of actual teamwork so heck, maybe all it takes is for them to fight against someone with an actual personality 
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In the spirit of impatom I'm going to focus on something small I do not like and make up repeating supportive arguments for the sake of being a butt, but don't worry! I still like this thread guys!quote:But she hasnt? I mean is that the way you are interpreting it when literally no one else is making this claim either in other forums or in the show. quote:I don't get how winning gundam forces the other two to fight as a team? quote:So after hearing a lot of people talk about how this show's been so boring and bad w/r/t fights compared to the first season I went back and rewatched most of season 1. None of these statements are acutally questions; the fact that you would take the time to end them with a question mark, so that they can be mentally read with a high-rising terminal, or "uptalk", is both the most absurd thing and fantastical atrocity ever. Back to gundam. Someone already mentioned this, I too predict at some point Sekai will face a tough opponent, smash his magical particle gunpla and it will be a Big Thing.
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Heck, I wouldn't mind Sekai being invincible if they were either facing more opponents who actually got a little characterization or if there was even a little bit of tension during the team battles. It'd be cool if someone were to get taken out right away and they had to fight 2 on 3, for instance! At this point in S1 we saw the Build Strike take damage and also get completely wrecked, but even if that didn't happen they had introduced a great supporting cast so it was all good. Srice fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Ka0 posted:In the spirit of impatom I'm going to focus on something small I do not like and make up repeating supportive arguments for the sake of being a butt, but don't worry! I still like this thread guys! Yes, that's right. I'm here posting 'to be a butt.' You've discovered my dastardly plan and I am undone. Srice posted:Heck, I wouldn't mind Sekai being invincible if they were either facing more opponents who actually got a little characterization or if there was even a little bit of tension during the team battles. It'd be cool if someone were to get taken out right away and they had to fight 2 on 3, for instance! To be honest I'm noticing that there's not really any emphasis on battle damage being a thing, possibly because of the "Damage Set to B" thing. Which in retrospect is kind of weird because one of the interesting things about the BF battles in Season 1 is that they could actually have serious consequences because they didn't actually matter. If your robot gets smashed up it sucks and you have to repair and rebuild it but nobody dies. Model Damage Set To B seems to remove that from the equation as well. We've never seen Fumina actually seem particularly stressed about Powered GM Cardigan's battle damage in the way that Sei was about Strike's, and the other two have never seemed to take any meaningful damage at all. (Sei through Burning Nosell, Yuuma because his rear end is always in the back and never actually gets hit.) In S2 fights, seeing someone get their arm cut off or whatever is sort of hard to map to how much actual damage they take. The Shield Shield SHIEEEELD thing looks brutal but it's possible the dude's gunpla was relatively undamaged by the end. It's a minor thing really but I'm hoping they do go up to Damage A soon so damage feels more meaningful.
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Well it should be noted that the Powered GMC never again had the total armament it was sporting back during the first episode battle for Axis. Although that might have been Fumina trying to figure out a balance between firepower and maneuverability.
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ImpAtom posted:In S2 fights, seeing someone get their arm cut off or whatever is sort of hard to map to how much actual damage they take. The Shield Shield SHIEEEELD thing looks brutal but it's possible the dude's gunpla was relatively undamaged by the end. It's a minor thing really but I'm hoping they do go up to Damage A soon so damage feels more meaningful. Yeah, it's really cut a lot of the tension the first-season fights had, especially when it brought a few nice moments like the mid-fight pause against the Sengoku Astray, and not to mention the amazing stalemate against the Fenice  . I'll be okay with it if they bump it up to Level A for the next-tier tournament after this one, as a kind of "kid gloves are OFF" thing.
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ImpAtom posted:To be honest I'm noticing that there's not really any emphasis on battle damage being a thing, possibly because of the "Damage Set to B" thing. Which in retrospect is kind of weird because one of the interesting things about the BF battles in Season 1 is that they could actually have serious consequences because they didn't actually matter. If your robot gets smashed up it sucks and you have to repair and rebuild it but nobody dies. Model Damage Set To B seems to remove that from the equation as well. We've never seen Fumina actually seem particularly stressed about Powered GM Cardigan's battle damage in the way that Sei was about Strike's, and the other two have never seemed to take any meaningful damage at all. (Sei through Burning Nosell, Yuuma because his rear end is always in the back and never actually gets hit.) Yeah that's a good point. I wonder how much of it is for convenience; since nobody could fix the Build Burning properly if it gets damaged, the first time it gets seriously damaged will probably happen if Sei is around or will be around shortly after to fix it. With this setup they can (hopefully) have Sekai take some damage in a fight and still be fine for the next battle. It's a bit of a hole they got themselves into when deciding that the protagonist should know jack poo poo about gunpla, and really makes me appreciate the Sei/Reiji dynamic more. Battle damage is cool and being able to get mobile suits completely wrecked without anyone dying is the best, I miss that 
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Srice posted:Yeah that's a good point. I wonder how much of it is for convenience; since nobody could fix the Build Burning properly if it gets damaged, the first time it gets seriously damaged will probably happen if Sei is around or will be around shortly after to fix it. With this setup they can (hopefully) have Sekai take some damage in a fight and still be fine for the next battle. Well, I'm sure it'll happen again if just because we're gonna be getting upgrades eventually and with three protagonist at least one of them is going to upgrade by the time-honored Gundam method of 'my poo poo be broke."
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ImpAtom posted:Well, I'm sure it'll happen again if just because we're gonna be getting upgrades eventually and with three protagonist at least one of them is going to upgrade by the time-honored Gundam method of 'my poo poo be broke." Ah yeah that's definitely true. Probably gonna happen with Yuu then since they keep bringing up his building skills and Hoshino has already switched. In that case I'll amend it to being good that in S1 they could have a few instances where they wouldn't make a huge deal about heavy damage.
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It doesn't bother me as much because it's been many years since the 1st season, and there was probably a policy change on battles being more simulated without battle damage. Kinda like how real sports have safer and safer health policies over the years.
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Srice posted:Yeah that's a good point. I wonder how much of it is for convenience; since nobody could fix the Build Burning properly if it gets damaged, the first time it gets seriously damaged will probably happen if Sei is around or will be around shortly after to fix it. With this setup they can (hopefully) have Sekai take some damage in a fight and still be fine for the next battle. ...Alternatively, it could play into a bit of a character growth for the team - at the very least, for Yuuma. Ie, if the Build Burning gets busted to bits (sorry), Yuuma has to go through a brief stint of determining whether or not he's good enough to measure up to a former world champion in order to try and fix it. Admittedly I'm not sure how you'd manage to write an episode around that, but who knows.
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Personally, I'm hoping that it ends up being Sakai that rebuilds or upgrades the Build Burning when it gets wrecked. Trying to master the school of building and all that. Or he'll team up with Simon or something. Set up a mirror team to the Try Fighters (builder/boxer/someone who actually knows what they're doing).
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Suzaku posted:Personally, I'm hoping that it ends up being Sakai that rebuilds or upgrades the Build Burning when it gets wrecked. Trying to master the school of building and all that. I'm guessing Funina would get a new rival as well, then. Lady's with Team Meijin, so she probably couldn't contribute to Team Psycho Fighters. That does seem to be where the show's headed, though, seeing as we're being interested to multiple powerful solo fighters who have personal issues with particular protagonists.
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Astro Nut posted:...Alternatively, it could play into a bit of a character growth for the team - at the very least, for Yuuma. Ie, if the Build Burning gets busted to bits (sorry), Yuuma has to go through a brief stint of determining whether or not he's good enough to measure up to a former world champion in order to try and fix it. Heck, there have been worse subjects to last an entire episode so why not. I'm a bit torn on that idea because while it would indeed be a great way to develop Yuuma's character, I'm not sure if he needs another excuse to angst about not being skilled enough
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Srice posted:If you're seeing things then I'm seeing them too! I didn't take any shots from this week's episode but here's a questionable shot from last week where her face is all messed up. I just want to point out that even though hoshino is off model in that shot, that entire scene is probably the most lively and animated any of the characters had been in the episode up to that point. Yuuma is fidgeting around and messing with his phone and instead of standing still and mouth flapping hoshino adjusts her position as she goes through the dialogue. I liked it a lot, a bit sad to see people throwing it into the fire since it and the gyanko staredown later in the same scene were fun little bits that I wish we had more of. Also Ral running late to the tournament this episode was a good similar bit.
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Sharkopath posted:I just want to point out that even though hoshino is off model in that shot, that entire scene is probably the most lively and animated any of the characters had been in the episode up to that point. Yuuma is fidgeting around and messing with his phone and instead of standing still and mouth flapping hoshino adjusts her position as she goes through the dialogue. I honestly didn't notice that from last episode. And actually haven't noticed it much up until now. This episode, however, there were a lot of scenes that didn't have much going on that were supposed to be cool or dramatic, and meanwhile Hoshino's all  and it just kinda doesn't work.I think this show doesn't really work at all when it's trying to be all that serious, though. The stakes are low, Yuuya's too flat for his story to really do all that much, and it's just kinda lacking in intensity. The first season was ridiculously intense, and it was incredibly dumb, but it worked. And it knew it was being too intense, and that was part of the humor. That seems lacking in this season so far. Everybody's treating gunpla battles really seriously but also as something completely mundane, compared to prior when it was a ridiculous dumb nerd thing played by total goons who got way too invested in it.
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nuru posted:Ral's new voice isn't working for me. First episode of the switch was bad, not just the transition but delivery too. I think he's getting more comfortable and I haven't minded as much lately but we're still lacking the range and intensity of old Ral.
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Sakai being a dick is about the closest we've gotten in spirit to a Fellini, but the show could use more time on side characters (which to be fair it looks like it should be doing more of soon). The main trio has some chemistry (well, not really Yuuma and Fumina), but I think has had some overexposure and needs to start branching out. Sei and Reiji were frequently not paired, which I think Try needs to follow more. Also I agree that that off model bit in front of the arena was good, but I don't think it would work for the whole show.
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