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Crescendo
Apr 24, 2005

Strafe those atheistic degenerates. Color them green with lots of holes.
I've been watching a lot of docos lately and I just had to share the following sequence. It has some nice footage of F-4s over Vietnam, but what sets it apart is the especially rad music: :madmax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCE-EUZ_8Do&t=11m03s

Hope you guys get a kick out of it. If anyone ever figures out who the scored it let me know (seriously).

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B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

Thomamelas posted:

I looked through the thread and didn't see this.



Il-102. It's hard to see but it has a GSh-30-2 and 6 internal bomb bays. It lost out the CAS role to the SU-25.

Its like a steampunk Su-25

I used to draw planes like this as a child.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
We live in a fossil-fuel-punk world.




LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Fossil fuels represent.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Bunch of F-15s doing low-altitude flyovers of Boston.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...S2dN/story.html

They flew over Cambridge a few minutes ago, and it was all kinds of loud. CBS is live filming it: http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/ -edit- not anymore, but have a vine: https://vine.co/v/Oi3zvxYDm1t

e- goddamn they are doing close formation too.

Downtown


Financial District


Over the State House


Over Southie


Over the Common


Over UMass


Over the harbor



Vine:
https://vine.co/v/Oi3zvxYDm1t


More


Leif. fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Nov 13, 2014

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
Neat. What's the purpose of the F-15 flying behind the rest?

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

mng posted:

Neat. What's the purpose of the F-15 flying behind the rest?

Dropping tea

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Well poo poo I left Boston 3 hours ago. Bummer. Would have had a great view from work.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

mng posted:

Neat. What's the purpose of the F-15 flying behind the rest?

If it's a two seater, probably taking pictures and video.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


LostCosmonaut posted:

Fossil fuels represent.



Wow engines on the wing tips too

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I did my part to turn dinosaur bones into smoke.

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state
I've found a lot of sources - and I use this term loosely - on the internet that are desperately trying to convince everyone that the Su-35 and the PAK-FA are the greatest planes ever made and basically all the F-22s should be grounded and the United States should surrender right away because they have no chance against the military (air) power of the Motherland.

I mean you have to be pretty delusional when you place all your bets on a jet that is 10 years behind the competition and HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN BUILT YET.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

holocaust bloopers posted:

I did my part to turn dinosaur bones into smoke.


TF-33. Turning oil into noise, smoke, and thrust (in that order,) since 1958.

:911:

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Ya thrust is the absolute last things those turbines produce.

Medicinal Penguin
May 19, 2006

OhYeah posted:

I've found a lot of sources - and I use this term loosely - on the internet that are desperately trying to convince everyone that the Su-35 and the PAK-FA are the greatest planes ever made and basically all the F-22s should be grounded and the United States should surrender right away because they have no chance against the military (air) power of the Motherland.

I mean you have to be pretty delusional when you place all your bets on a jet that is 10 years behind the competition and HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN BUILT YET.

Compared to the F-35, "hasn't been built yet" is a pretty big competitive advantage.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

OhYeah posted:

I've found a lot of sources - and I use this term loosely - on the internet that are desperately trying to convince everyone that the Su-35 and the PAK-FA are the greatest planes ever made and basically all the F-22s should be grounded and the United States should surrender right away because they have no chance against the military (air) power of the Motherland.

I mean you have to be pretty delusional when you place all your bets on a jet that is 10 years behind the competition and HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN BUILT YET.

They're just angry that Markov is kicking their butts in Ace Combat Assault Horizon :v:

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

simplefish posted:

Wow engines on the wing tips too

Those are the chemtrail dispensers.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Davin Valkri posted:

They're just angry that Markov is kicking their butts in Ace Combat Assault Horizon :v:

Too many people think the world of planes works on Ace Combat logic, where cooler looking plane=better. Which is obviously false because the P-38 and MiG-31 aren't the best fighters ever built, despite my desperate prayers to the contrary.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

The US Army cuts to officers fall disproportionately on officers that worked their way up from noncoms. Also to save money they've adopted some system by which people retiring as Captains get a Sergent's pension instead

e: “They needed us to fight the Taliban,” Captain Allen said. “Now they don’t, so they pull the rug out from under us. Loyalty here seems like a one-way street.”

Dare I say this is true of most western military services now

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Nov 13, 2014

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

Davin Valkri posted:

They're just angry that Markov is kicking their butts in Ace Combat Assault Horizon :v:

That fucker is a god drat cheater he shoots missiles backwards and he's invincible for like 5 solid minutes

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Medicinal Penguin posted:

Compared to the F-35, "hasn't been built yet" is a pretty big competitive advantage.

From what I understand, the baby Paks they've built have just as many mechanical problems as the F-35, not that they'll be able to effort them anyway.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/folj-med-in-pa-muskobasen_4087985.svd?sidan=1

Some pictures from the underground naval base at Muskö. Article is in Swedish but the pictures speak for themselves. Didn't know they had so much art down there.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I've finally finished reading the whole thread, and holy poo poo what a thread it is.

Nebakenezzer posted:

Dare I say this is true of most western military services now

Canadian veterans have just formed an Anything But Conservative association, to encourage military members to vote in a less lovely government in 2015. This was prompted by repeated cuts to veterans pensions and medical benefits so that the government could hand out tax cuts to rich people.

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

PittTheElder posted:

Canadian veterans[ANGLOPHONE_COUNTRY] have just formed an Anything But Conservative association, to encourage military[THE_PUBLIC] members to vote in a less lovely government in 201520XX. This was prompted by repeated cuts to veterans pensions and medical benefits[ALL_VARS] so that the government could hand out tax cuts to rich people.

RavenKrows
May 29, 2008

Nebakenezzer posted:

The US Army cuts to officers fall disproportionately on officers that worked their way up from noncoms. Also to save money they've adopted some system by which people retiring as Captains get a Sergent's pension instead

e: “They needed us to fight the Taliban,” Captain Allen said. “Now they don’t, so they pull the rug out from under us. Loyalty here seems like a one-way street.”

Dare I say this is true of most western military services now

Thanks Obama.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Nebakenezzer posted:

The US Army cuts to officers fall disproportionately on officers that worked their way up from noncoms. Also to save money they've adopted some system by which people retiring as Captains get a Sergent's pension instead

e: “They needed us to fight the Taliban,” Captain Allen said. “Now they don’t, so they pull the rug out from under us. Loyalty here seems like a one-way street.”

Dare I say this is true of most western military services now

I really wish the Army would release more info about what got people cut. I get that they can't just release performance/UCMJ/etc records for privacy reasons, but it seems very hit and miss. I wasn't concerned because, given the number of people being cut from my branch, I could count offhand more people than that who had either gotten into serious loving trouble or who had some really bad evaluation reports. And there are certainly some officer bitching and moaning about being cut who got a DUI in 2008 when you could get away with that, but eh, gently caress it. Even something as simple as saying "X% of cut officers had a military or civilian crime on their record since commissioning, X% had a serious violation of policy/regulation, X% had a one or more bad performance reviews, X% were flagged for PT or weight failure anyway, etc.

What would suck a lot more is if a current officer who has done a good job for the last 5 or 10 or 15 years is getting cut because of some UCMJ trouble they got into as a 19-year-old PFC doing dumb PFC stuff. I can't recall from the MILPER if stuff from your enlisted time was barred from review. I do know that the Lieutenant evaluations, masked for promotion purposes, were not masked for separation. So if you hosed up as a brand new LT, you were high risk to get separated as a CPT or MAJ.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

Reading through Skunk Works and it is pretty great.

I like the bit when people living near the main SR-71 base are bitching about all the loud noise and house rattling. So the base invites the residents to check out the plane and tell them the loud noise is the sound of freedom. It apparently went over well.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

PittTheElder posted:

I've finally finished reading the whole thread, and holy poo poo what a thread it is.

Lord Palmerston

mlmp08 posted:

I really wish the Army would release more info about what got people cut. I get that they can't just release performance/UCMJ/etc records for privacy reasons, but it seems very hit and miss. I wasn't concerned because, given the number of people being cut from my branch, I could count offhand more people than that who had either gotten into serious loving trouble or who had some really bad evaluation reports. And there are certainly some officer bitching and moaning about being cut who got a DUI in 2008 when you could get away with that, but eh, gently caress it. Even something as simple as saying "X% of cut officers had a military or civilian crime on their record since commissioning, X% had a serious violation of policy/regulation, X% had a one or more bad performance reviews, X% were flagged for PT or weight failure anyway, etc.

What would suck a lot more is if a current officer who has done a good job for the last 5 or 10 or 15 years is getting cut because of some UCMJ trouble they got into as a 19-year-old PFC doing dumb PFC stuff. I can't recall from the MILPER if stuff from your enlisted time was barred from review. I do know that the Lieutenant evaluations, masked for promotion purposes, were not masked for separation. So if you hosed up as a brand new LT, you were high risk to get separated as a CPT or MAJ.

It's a good point, but given how every other decision has been done, I'm sure there is a lot of pressure to get rid of the people who will cost more money. I mean, the whole VA debacle is caused by the people in power not giving a poo poo, why would you be fair in the cuts?

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011
I would be surprised if Personnel Command were operating under an organized policy of cutting the people who would get fatter stacks in retirement, because that would imply PersCo was operating under an organized policy. The way these things usually go is that the people responsible are told that cuts are coming and they have five or six months to figure it out, then the policy and requirements change five or six times, and after the low hanging fruit is gone it becomes a matter of finding the easiest decisions to justify in a few weeks. At least, that's how it happens in the Air Force.

tl;dr the personnel system is a dumpster fire that will never go out.

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013

mng posted:

Neat. What's the purpose of the F-15 flying behind the rest?

Looks like the "Missing Man" formation.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Outside Dawg posted:

Looks like the "Missing Man" formation.

Not a math major, I assume.

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013

Godholio posted:

Not a math major, I assume.

I was referring to the formation he's trailing, you'll also note I said "looks like".

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Dead Reckoning posted:

I would be surprised if Personnel Command were operating under an organized policy of cutting the people who would get fatter stacks in retirement, because that would imply PersCo was operating under an organized policy. The way these things usually go is that the people responsible are told that cuts are coming and they have five or six months to figure it out, then the policy and requirements change five or six times, and after the low hanging fruit is gone it becomes a matter of finding the easiest decisions to justify in a few weeks. At least, that's how it happens in the Air Force.

tl;dr the personnel system is a dumpster fire that will never go out.

Deny, deny, obfuscate, publish misleading and contradictory guidance, destroy evidence, and declare "expecting perfection was unrealistic." SOP for AFPC.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
We can't have our soldiers drawing dual incomes from a civilian job *and* their pensions! That would give them a fighting chance at keeping the myth of a middle class alive, and we all know the future is Plutocratic Neo-Feudalism, because if you're a Conservative the Liberals are behind it by spending us into the ground on ~socialist programs designed to redistribute wealth away from the JOB CREATORS~, and if you're a Liberal, the Conservatives want to spend us into the ground on a bunch of weapons systems we don't need...unless you're a Representative or Senator from a place where they're building something, in which case we desperately *need* that to protect Freedom.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Nov 14, 2014

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

Baloogan posted:

We live in a fossil-fuel-punk world.






The water injected engines on B-52's and KC-135's are a noise even at a distance that will rival anything you have ever heard.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

B4Ctom1 posted:

The water injected engines on B-52's and KC-135's are a noise even at a distance that will rival anything you have ever heard.

Getting back to the earlier topic of ~Russian Exceptionalism~, I'd wager the Bear on a minimum-interval (or whatever they called MITO) takeoff roll is louder.

Probably we still take the cake in 'belching exceptionally toxic exhaust,' though. You-ess-ay! You-ess-ay! You-ess-ay!

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Nov 14, 2014

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
I'm pretty sure we don't use water injection anymore. …do we?

Edit: And civilian airliners did too! "Now departing from Dense Pillar of Smoke, with nonstop service to I Can't Hear Myself Think."

StandardVC10 fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Nov 14, 2014

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

StandardVC10 posted:

I'm pretty sure we don't use water injection anymore. …do we?

Not in the military anyway. JATO takeoffs still happen. The only unit I know of that does those are the NYANG Antarctica guys.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe



I can't tell whether this guy is lucky or unlucky.

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
He just made his last payment on it too!!

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