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a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation


What is your job that you can cruise around the antarctic with medium format cameras?

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Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
I work in the merchant navy. That run has been my summer job for the last 4 years.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Seeing your shots makes me want to drop out of grad school and join up.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Stay in school. School is cool. Don't do drugs. Eat your veggies. Slip slop slap etc etc

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Sludge Tank posted:

Stay in school. School is cool. Don't do drugs. Eat your veggies. Slip slop slap etc etc

I'm gonna be in Tazz and am gonna have summers off, my chances of getting down to Antarctica (either for free or as a paid gig) without a particular skillset are pretty much nil though, right?

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I'm gonna be in Tazz and am gonna have summers off,

HOW?!? You must tell me how you have arranged this fantasy of a state of affairs for yourself! I spent ONE summer in Tassie, not "off" (I was basically working a normal-ish 9-5) and I would happily spend the rest of my life there. Goddam.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Pompous Rhombus posted:

I'm gonna be in Tazz and am gonna have summers off, my chances of getting down to Antarctica (either for free or as a paid gig) without a particular skillset are pretty much nil though, right?

An ex of mine worked at one of the camps there for a summer as a general skivvy, no particular relevant skills but she knew people who had worked there before and were able to recommend her. I dunno what your skillset is but the big camps need cooks, mechanics, sysadmins, dishwashers, medics and a whole host of other stuff so you may have something more applicable than you think. I think there's quite a lot of competition though so knowing someone is going to be your best way in (as always). Other than that being personable and easy to get along with and unlikely to flake out are some of the most important traits because it's super expensive to replace you if it doesn't work out halfway through the season, if the weather even allows it.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

ExecuDork posted:

HOW?!? You must tell me how you have arranged this fantasy of a state of affairs for yourself! I spent ONE summer in Tassie, not "off" (I was basically working a normal-ish 9-5) and I would happily spend the rest of my life there. Goddam.

Grad school :cool:

big scary monsters posted:

An ex of mine worked at one of the camps there for a summer as a general skivvy, no particular relevant skills but she knew people who had worked there before and were able to recommend her. I dunno what your skillset is but the big camps need cooks, mechanics, sysadmins, dishwashers, medics and a whole host of other stuff so you may have something more applicable than you think. I think there's quite a lot of competition though so knowing someone is going to be your best way in (as always). Other than that being personable and easy to get along with and unlikely to flake out are some of the most important traits because it's super expensive to replace you if it doesn't work out halfway through the season, if the weather even allows it.

That's good to know (I looked into doing it through Raytheon ages ago, but you had to apply online and there was a super narrow window as everyone jumped on the lower-tier positions) . Was thinking of getting my forklift ticket, I wouldn't say I have any really applicable specific skills though. I mean, I can cook, but I've never worked in a commercial kitchen or anything, generally handy with computers but not really a specialist in anything, etc. On the plus side I'm not a dickhead, and would have regular Aussie work rights (can work f/t during school breaks) and an American passport. I'm also gonna try and do some tactical schmoozing with the Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies at my uni in Hobart.

Pompous Rhombus fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Nov 8, 2014

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
If you're in Hobart when the Aurora is in port I can give you a tour of the ship if you like?

E: look at jobs.antarctica.aad or whatever that website is, they have labouring jobs and cooks/research assistants etc.

E2: they have a lot of random jobs going on the antarctic jobs web site and I'm sure "tactical shmoozing" could work in your favour. A lot of the expeditioners i've met have said the "hardest part" is the psych evaluation and even that's easy. Lots of odd jobs going down there even runway maintenance for the airfield they have near Casey. Dunno how much more big projects they'll have planned with El Presidente's budget cuts to CSIRO and all that.

Tassie is nice though :) i've moved away twice and always came back eventually.

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Nov 8, 2014

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
I'd happily settle down in Tassie, but there just aren't many jobs in Physics/Engineering down there unfortunately.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Also if you are interested in Antarctica forums user Stereotype is posting in YOSPOS at the moment about being at McMurdo and you can ask him questions and read about the pissing arrangements (no yellow snow allowed) and if you can grow weed there and so on.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3675525

I've been reunited with my cameras today after having them all in storage for a couple of months and I really need to go do some MF. I've still got two rolls of Yond Cassius' Astia that I need to shoot by the end of the year and a bunch of rolls that need developing.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007
Hey nerds, I've got a brand spankin' new condition View Camera Technique for sale over in the Buy/Sell thread, as well as a few boxes of flashbulbs and some Grafmatics.

Sludge Tank posted:

If you're in Hobart when the Aurora is in port I can give you a tour of the ship if you like?

E: look at jobs.antarctica.aad or whatever that website is, they have labouring jobs and cooks/research assistants etc.

E2: they have a lot of random jobs going on the antarctic jobs web site and I'm sure "tactical shmoozing" could work in your favour. A lot of the expeditioners i've met have said the "hardest part" is the psych evaluation and even that's easy. Lots of odd jobs going down there even runway maintenance for the airfield they have near Casey. Dunno how much more big projects they'll have planned with El Presidente's budget cuts to CSIRO and all that.

Tassie is nice though :) i've moved away twice and always came back eventually.

One of my undergrad majors was Psych :getin: I will definitely take you up on that ship tour if our schedules work out.

Spedman posted:

I'd happily settle down in Tassie, but there just aren't many jobs in Physics/Engineering down there unfortunately.

Wouldn't think so, although if you decide you ever want to teach secondary school let me know.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Wouldn't think so, although if you decide you ever want to teach secondary school let me know.

With the burnout from chasing an illusive tenure track uni job, its starting to sound like a more viable option.



Just developed 8 sheets of 4x5 in my DIY dunk tank, and I think I've finally got it sussed, gentle with the semi-inversions and the surge marks don't happen.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR
:geno:


Levels by Isaac Sachs, on Flickr

Captain Organ
Sep 9, 2004
cooter. snooper.
Slide film is hard.

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Old slide film is harder.

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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Captain Organ posted:

Slide film is hard.

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Not the only thing that's hard after seeing that pic
:gizz:

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004


Sunset Way by alkanphel, on Flickr

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Captain Organ posted:

Old slide film is harder.

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Expired Ektachrome by any chance?

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
Foma 100 in 4x5, with Ilford DDX in my DIY dunk tank, for some reason the images look flatter and less sharp here than they do on flickr


Port Melbourne by mr_student, on Flickr


Port Melbourne by mr_student, on Flickr


Port Melbourne by mr_student, on Flickr

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Captain Organ posted:

Slide film is hard.

Untitled

Old slide film is harder.

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Quantum of Phallus sniped the obvious joke, so I'll just say that I love these.

Captain Organ
Sep 9, 2004
cooter. snooper.

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Expired Ektachrome by any chance?

Thanks, y'all. Those were ~20 year expired Provia (h? maybe? Pretty sure it was 400 speed). I've been having a lot of fun buying weirdo lots of expired film and hoping for the best. I ended up with a ton of old FP4 that is generally a big pain in the butt to scan for whatever reason, but when it cooperates, i really really like it.

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Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

Lovely.

Genderfluid
Jun 18, 2009

my mom is a slut

Storage Concepts, Pennsylvania by Cameron Mattis, on Flickr

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004


Bolzano by alkanphel, on Flickr

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.
I like the amount of punishment MF Portra can take before not yielding any image at all...
untitled-10.jpg by polysynthesism, on Flickr

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Forgive me MF/LF thread, for I have sinned. It has been ages and ages and ages since I last splashed developer onto film, but last night I finally got around to developing the roll I ran through the Kiev 60 I bought from Pompous Rhombous more than a year ago. It had a suspected frame-spacing issue, which has been upgraded to a "confirmed" frame-spacing issue. Fortunately it's not severe, just a few millimetres on each side.

The lenses out-resolve my scanner, a massive change from my other MF camera, an ancient simple-lens folder.
Kiev 60 Test Roll by Execudork, on Flickr
Kiev 60 Test Roll-3 by Execudork, on Flickr
Kiev 60 Test Roll-6 by Execudork, on Flickr

Now I need to figure out the light meter, deal with exposure, and tackle composition. You know, the advanced stuff, beyond "Point at Catte". Then I can load it with Yond Cassius' Astia and go to town. Well, that and deal with the awful, awful dust and crud issues.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

ExecuDork posted:

Forgive me MF/LF thread, for I have sinned. It has been ages and ages and ages since I last splashed developer onto film, but last night I finally got around to developing the roll I ran through the Kiev 60 I bought from Pompous Rhombous more than a year ago. It had a suspected frame-spacing issue, which has been upgraded to a "confirmed" frame-spacing issue. Fortunately it's not severe, just a few millimetres on each side.

It's been a bad couple years for me as well - I've shot about a half dozen rolls in two years. I'm gonna try to get back into it, and I'm also going to try and move towards my LF gear.

Could the guy with the Astia film please email his address to .? The note got lost during my move, but I need to shoot the 2nd roll and get it mailed out here.

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Sep 11, 2015

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

ExecuDork posted:

Then I can load it with Yond Cassius' Astia and go to town.
I'm a little scared to shoot my Astia because I get frame spacing issues on my Pentacon Six too. Apparently it's pretty common and mostly down to poor loading technique but I can't seem to get it consistently right; about half the time I have no problems and the rest I get 10mm or so overlap on my frames.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
I was able to fix the frame spacing issue on the K60 I had relatively easily using this handy page: http://kievaholic.com/kiev60kalibration.html

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

big scary monsters posted:

I'm a little scared to shoot my Astia because I get frame spacing issues on my Pentacon Six too. Apparently it's pretty common and mostly down to poor loading technique but I can't seem to get it consistently right; about half the time I have no problems and the rest I get 10mm or so overlap on my frames.
On the other hand, I believe Yond Cassius' intent (please correct me if I'm wrong on this, YC) was for *interesting* film to be returned to him. Obviously subject matter / composition / quality of photograph is high priority here, but I think "shot through an odd camera" also contributes to "interesting". 10mm seems like a lot, though. I think I'm just going to go into it with the intention of taking one good photo (personal definition of "good" applies) on the roll, with 12 or 13 frames a reasonable estimate for how many shots I'll get. Then YC can have that one good one and whatever is next to it (on either or both sides?).

365 Nog Hogger posted:

I was able to fix the frame spacing issue on the K60 I had relatively easily using this handy page: http://kievaholic.com/kiev60kalibration.html
This looks very good, thanks! Would the light meter in my DSLR work for that calibration? What shutter speed tester is goon-recommended?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

365 Nog Hogger posted:

I was able to fix the frame spacing issue on the K60 I had relatively easily using this handy page: http://kievaholic.com/kiev60kalibration.html
That looks useful, thanks!

ExecuDork posted:

What shutter speed tester is goon-recommended?
I got one of these and it seems to work pretty well: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHOTOPLUG-The-Shutter-Speed-Tester-for-your-iPhone-Verschlusszeitentester-/251705565731. If you have an iPhone there's an app that goes with it, if not then you can just use an audio recording program and check out the waveform in Audacity or something.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

horny is prohibited

Paul MaudDib posted:

Could the guy with the Astia film please email his address to redacted? The note got lost during my move, but I need to shoot the 2nd roll and get it mailed out here.

"the guy"? Come on, ExecuDork named me right before you posted. ;) I did send you my address again, though.

big scary monsters posted:

I'm a little scared to shoot my Astia because I get frame spacing issues on my Pentacon Six too. Apparently it's pretty common and mostly down to poor loading technique but I can't seem to get it consistently right; about half the time I have no problems and the rest I get 10mm or so overlap on my frames.

My first medium-format experience was a Pentacon Six. On mine, it helped if you kept your thumb on the spool while you were winding it over and made the camera fight you just a little for the take-up. Between that and riding the film advance back down (not letting it snap), I didn't have any problems after my first couple rolls.

ExecuDork posted:

On the other hand, I believe Yond Cassius' intent (please correct me if I'm wrong on this, YC) was for *interesting* film to be returned to him. Obviously subject matter / composition / quality of photograph is high priority here, but I think "shot through an odd camera" also contributes to "interesting". 10mm seems like a lot, though. I think I'm just going to go into it with the intention of taking one good photo (personal definition of "good" applies) on the roll, with 12 or 13 frames a reasonable estimate for how many shots I'll get. Then YC can have that one good one and whatever is next to it (on either or both sides?).

That's about the space of it. Part of the reason I asked for an unbroken strip, instead of individual picked frames, is that I find it really fascinating to see the fingerprints of other people's processes. The near-misses tell you a lot, I think, about how a photographer works and decides what's worth keeping, and a slightly-eccentric camera can be part of that.

For example, I know one photographer who edits his film with a holepunch. He put a hole through the middle of anything he doesn't like, so he can't second-guess himself into showing anyone less than his best. If I got a strip back from him, I'd expect a hole punched through at least one of them. I personally use an adapter to stick Hasselblad lenses on top of my Nikon sometimes. It's not necessarily best for perfect sharpness (a mid-higher-end 35mm lens will be sharper, just because of the manufacturing challenges in building bigger lenses), but I like the way they render colors and tones, and I think something survives in the translation to small-format (vignetting is nil, for one). If you look, you'll see little pentagon-shaped catchlights even in my 35mm, and I think that's pretty neat.

If you can comfortably say "Yes, that feels like me and my work," then I'll be happy. It's a chance for me to get to know people as photographers in a way that's hard to achieve online, and to let you all enjoy a really special film before it disappears forever. If you send me a letter with your film strip that says "All the Astia talk convinced me to bite the medium-format bullet. This is what I think so far and these are some things I've learned..." then, honestly, I'll be delighted.

I don't intend for this to be a competition. I'm not going to judge the entries and send an extra five rolls of Astia to the winner or something. At best, if everyone does really well, I might dig around in my fridge for a while, open up one of the Snaplock boxes back there, and see if there's anything else back there that I'd like to share.

Cassius Belli fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Nov 14, 2014

Bud
Oct 5, 2002

Quite Polite Like Walter Cronkite
You are a cool dude and I can't wait to get my negs back. My last shot was a of a cat so I'm not concerned.

voodoorootbeer
Nov 8, 2004

We may have years, we may have hours, but sooner or later we push up flowers.
I plan to use my Astia to take photographic revenge on a spot of Delaware beach where a dud of a 50mm lens refused to fire the shutter on 9/10 frames last year.

Randuin
Dec 26, 2003

O-Overdrive~
Kinda want to get into large format. Is there any resources to read in terms of things to buy? I'm not really sure what's just an easy solid set of things to buy to allow me to just start shooting.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

Randuin posted:

Kinda want to get into large format. Is there any resources to read in terms of things to buy? I'm not really sure what's just an easy solid set of things to buy to allow me to just start shooting.

This page has lots of handy information:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Randuin posted:

Kinda want to get into large format. Is there any resources to read in terms of things to buy? I'm not really sure what's just an easy solid set of things to buy to allow me to just start shooting.


Sludge Tank posted:

This page has lots of handy information:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info


This. Also join their actual forums and in 30 days you will be able to use their buy/sell forum, which is pretty handy because sometimes there are decent deals on there. Honestly, LF is pretty easy to get into you need a camera, lens, film and some holders. There are few more bits if you don't have a tripod that is up to snuff or haven't been developing your own B&W and need to get a tank or whatever. What's your rough budget and the things you intend to shoot?

Randuin
Dec 26, 2003

O-Overdrive~

8th-snype posted:

This. Also join their actual forums and in 30 days you will be able to use their buy/sell forum, which is pretty handy because sometimes there are decent deals on there. Honestly, LF is pretty easy to get into you need a camera, lens, film and some holders. There are few more bits if you don't have a tripod that is up to snuff or haven't been developing your own B&W and need to get a tank or whatever. What's your rough budget and the things you intend to shoot?

Thanks for the advice! Joined the forum just now. My budget is... I'm not really sure, bang for the buck is more of a concern I guess. I tend to shoot a lot of things. Recently bought a Leica M6 and have been really enjoying that for everything. However when I go on hikes around here in Southern California I've felt like, wow it'd be great to slow down and work on a bigger piece and it's just really loving cool to have a bigger negative. (My only exposure to MF/LF is my Mamiya 645). So yeah, a lot of landscapes. Although some of the LF portraiture I've seen have been absolutely mind blowing so I wouldn't mind experimenting with that either.

Randuin fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Nov 14, 2014

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Randuin posted:

Thanks for the advice! Joined the forum just now. My budget is... I'm not really sure, bang for the buck is more of a concern I guess. I tend to shoot a lot of things. Recently bought a Leica M6 and have been really enjoying that for everything. However when I go on hikes around here in Southern California I've felt like, wow it'd be great to slow down and work on a bigger piece and it's just really loving cool to have a bigger negative. (My only exposure to MF/LF is my Mamiya 645). So yeah, a lot of landscapes. Although some of the LF portraiture I've seen have been absolutely mind blowing so I wouldn't mind experimenting with that either.

You want a flat bed folding camera and something in a focal length between 135-210mm. Any modern 135mm or 150mm plasmat will be plenty sharp and fairly cheap as a starter lens, 210mms are a little heavier but if you like slightly tighter shots it may be the right choice for you. If you have the budget and like to hike a Chamonix 45n-2 is probably your absolute best bang for the buck option (around $900 for the camera new). They are carbon fiber and wood, my LF kit weighs less than my old Pentax or Hassie kit ever did. Plus we have like 5 or 6 Chamonix owners floating around here and not a single one has ever had a complaint as far as I know. If budget is more of a concern you can find cheaper bodies pretty easily, like Bushman, Speed Graphics or other press cameras. I would avoid monorail cameras if you plan to carry farther than from the car to a park and back, flat bed cameras are so much more convenient to pack and set up. Buy cheap film holders, at least 2 more than you think you will need, and never wooden 4x5 ones (not worth the gamble on it being warped).

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Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
I found Ansel Adam's book "The Camera" a really helpful book. It's really easy to follow if you're a pleb like me. "View Camera Technique" by Leslie Stroebel is also pretty in depth but I never finished it. It might pay to read about the lf camera before using it as it can be a little confusing trying to use it without understanding the basics.

2nd the Chamonix. Won't disappoint.

150mm and 210mm are my favourite focal lengths. But that's me.

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Nov 14, 2014

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