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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:What's the universal signal for "turn on your lights, dumbass"? Flashing headlights, followed by yelling, obscene gestures, and a PIT maneuver.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:00
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Geoj posted:In my experience "flash to pass" seems to be the universal signal for "please slam on your brakes, then proceed at 5 MPH slower than you were driving before and if its not too much of a bother speed match me when I give up and try to pass you on the right." The only time I've had someone flash to pass was some brotruck rear end in a top hat who got half into the inside shoulder (IE, left edge of the highway) and was going Flashlight Commander while riding about four feet off my bumper at 70 MPH. Because the left lane was a solid line going 70, passing the right lane that was a solid line going 65. (2-lane eastbound freeway, at about 5:30 AM.) If I *had* gone and forced my way into the slower lane, dipshit would have gained one entire carlength, and just tailgated/flashed up the next car in line. When I got about a half-mile out from my exit, I did wedge myself over and yup, tailgate-and-flash... guess he (she?) should have gotten an earlier start if they're that late.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:03
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I try to be courteous and move out of the way of people going faster, but if there's a whole shitload of traffic in front of me, uh, sorry, deal with it. It's as if people are incapable of seeing past the bumper directly in front of them.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:08
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Cage posted:
Totally cool with this AS LONG AS the two drivers were also charged with reckless driving.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:09
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revmoo posted:Totally cool with this AS LONG AS the two drivers were also charged with reckless driving. Nope just the butt in front.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:11
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jamal posted:I try to be courteous and move out of the way of people going faster, but if there's a whole shitload of traffic in front of me, uh, sorry, deal with it. It's as if people are incapable of seeing past the bumper directly in front of them. Yup, perpetual tailgaters are the worst.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:14
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:The only time I've had someone flash to pass was some brotruck rear end in a top hat who got half into the inside shoulder (IE, left edge of the highway) and was going Flashlight Commander while riding about four feet off my bumper at 70 MPH. Because the left lane was a solid line going 70, passing the right lane that was a solid line going 65. (2-lane eastbound freeway, at about 5:30 AM.) This is also my experience with people who "flash to pass," brotruck or otherwise.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:23
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:The only time I've had someone flash to pass...the left lane was a solid line going 70, passing the right lane that was a solid line going 65. (2-lane eastbound freeway, at about 5:30 AM.) jamal posted:if there's a whole shitload of traffic in front of me, uh, sorry, deal with it. It's as if people are incapable of seeing past the bumper directly in front of them. Yes, clearly gridlock is the only situation ever present on the highway. I, too, have never encountered someone doing 5-10 under the limit, in the far left lane, in light traffic.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:59
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Sure, but presumably the fine posters of AI would be smart enough to move the gently caress over and not even need to get flashed, except in situations as described where it's pointless anyway 
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Nov 13, 2014 22:04
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:The only time I've had someone flash to pass was some brotruck rear end in a top hat who got half into the inside shoulder (IE, left edge of the highway) and was going Flashlight Commander while riding about four feet off my bumper at 70 MPH. Because the left lane was a solid line going 70, passing the right lane that was a solid line going 65. (2-lane eastbound freeway, at about 5:30 AM.) People flash to pass about 25% of the time over here. The other 75% of the time they just tailgate you forever and ever (usually pickups and BMWs driven by angry dads). Whenever someone flashes to pass, I want to give them an award or something, but I'm pretty good at moving out of the way before they feel the need. Perpetual tailgaters are terrible car stuff. Sometimes I'll move over in my lane to show them that there's a whole lineup of cars in front of me, which
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Nov 13, 2014 22:13
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Works great for them, that's one fewer car between them and their destination. They're completely ignorant it has zero impact on their actual arrival time, they're passing cars so they must be saving time, right??
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Nov 13, 2014 22:16
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IOwnCalculus posted:Sure, but presumably the fine posters of AI would be smart enough to move the gently caress over and not even need to get flashed, except in situations as described where it's pointless anyway I was responding to the implication that anyone who flashes at someone to move over is a brotruck driving douchebag expecting people to get out of the way when there's literally nowhere to go. I typically will give someone a flash if they're just blocking the left lane for no good reason and if they ignore it then go around them on the right. I've always viewed passing on the right without giving someone a chance to move over as the bigger rear end in a top hat move, guess I'm in the minority of AI posters v0v
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Nov 13, 2014 22:17
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You're still missing that they're both talking about being flashed to pass, not flashing the inevitable person blocking the left lane.
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Nov 13, 2014 22:27
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Cage posted:
You missed the two best parts from this story. The two cars crashed while trying to avoid running into him, they didn't hit him. Also, this comment: 
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Nov 13, 2014 23:05
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a primate posted:Sometimes I'll move over in my lane to show them that there's a whole lineup of cars in front of me, which It doesn't matter, they just want to be in front of you. I commute in a little Fiesta, pretty much any car on the road has no problem seeing what's in front of me, but that doesn't stop them from riding my rear end impatiently even when there is a solid line of cars in front of me as far as the eye can see.
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Nov 13, 2014 23:56
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Geoj posted:I was responding to the implication that anyone who flashes at someone to move over is a brotruck driving douchebag expecting people to get out of the way when there's literally nowhere to go. ??? I only stated that I've only been flashed (like that  ) exactly once, and the circumstances.Probably because I don't camp the faster lane(s) if I'm not passing, or clearing the right lane to allow merging.
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Nov 14, 2014 00:05
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what really gets me is perpetual tailgaters who instantly morph into sheep and just fumblefuck along clustered up with the guys in the other two lanes the second they don't have anyone to tailgate, i.e. they are now at the front of the line of fuckwits in the left lane. I'm sorry, you were in an all fired hurry to douchebagistan until everyone was out of your way, now you've abruptly forgotten you even have a throttle?  I want a tractor beam. This is very, very common behavior around here. 90% of the people on the road are literally on autopilot and clump together into giant wads of stupidity riding inches off each other's bumpers.
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Nov 14, 2014 00:38
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kastein posted:what really gets me is perpetual tailgaters who instantly morph into sheep and just fumblefuck along clustered up with the guys in the other two lanes the second they don't have anyone to tailgate, i.e. they are now at the front of the line of fuckwits in the left lane. I'm sorry, you were in an all fired hurry to douchebagistan until everyone was out of your way, now you've abruptly forgotten you even have a throttle? This is so true. When I was driving out to Utica recently I was on a 2 lane section of 90 in upstate NY and there was this idiot in a ford flex who kept coming up, riding my rear end, and as soon as I'd get out of his way to let him pass he'd slow down. I'd go back in the left lane, he'd be on my rear end again. Over and over. I'd even slow down to let him go by and he'd slow down too. He'd usually speed up just enough to sit in my blind spot as I came up on a slow truck and wanted to get back into the left lane, so I'd have to gun it a bit to get in ahead of him every time. This continued for at least an hour. I think he wanted me in front acting as a cop target, but that doesn't really work if you're 10 feet off my bumper.
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Nov 14, 2014 00:58
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Whatever happened to daytime running lights?
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Nov 14, 2014 01:16
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a primate posted:People flash to pass about 25% of the time over here. The other 75% of the time they just tailgate you forever and ever (usually pickups and BMWs driven by angry dads). Whenever someone flashes to pass, I want to give them an award or something, but I'm pretty good at moving out of the way before they feel the need. I've run into a perpetual tailgater recently on my commute. 80mph, quite literally 2 feet off the bumper of an F150 in front of him. It looks like he's driving his wife to work (or they work together). I'm not sure if he starting driving overseas because I don't think I've seen anything quite like it. In and out of lanes, no signals, driving this Hyundai Elantra Touring like it's stolen. Someone is going to brake check him and it's going to be real ugly.
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Nov 14, 2014 03:56
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Traffic circle in my town: Nothing out of the ordinary, just some people driving like jackasses occasionally (constantly). Until they started to do construction on the property on one 'corner' of the circle. They had to tear some road up, but they repaved it and everything...  There is a decent incline leading to this section of the circle from the outside to the point where, if you are driving anything sedan-height or lower, you can't see that the asphalt doesn't continue straight until you're pretty much in the circle, especially if you're watching for traffic in the circle rather than looking straight, so quite a lot of people going through for the first time, or those of us with experience who just aren't really concentrating that day, just drive straight until OH poo poo I'M DRIVING ON THE SIDEWALK!!!!
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Nov 14, 2014 05:24
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PaganGoatPants posted:Whatever happened to daytime running lights? They're still around? Pretty sure they're mandatory on Canadian-market vehicles, and a lot of GM cars have them in the states since they're built in Canada. That said, I seem to remember reading that they're not actually as effective as was originally claimed due to faulty study methodology (ie DRLs stand out against cars without lights, but when everybody has them they confer no benefit).
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Nov 14, 2014 05:34
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What bugs the hell out of me is people not stopping at the painted line at 4 way stops. People consistently just roll about a car length and then they stop. I can never tell if someone is just running the damned thing or pulling this poo poo, and they do it all the time.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:05
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sleepy.eyes posted:What bugs the hell out of me is people not stopping at the painted line at 4 way stops. People consistently just roll about a car length and then they stop. I can never tell if someone is just running the damned thing or pulling this poo poo, and they do it all the time. God I hate stop signs. Often where the line is painted you can't see traffic coming in a 2-way stop, so it's habit to stop a little further of the line. Which means basically 0% of people are following the letter of the stop sign law, including cops. And cops have a steady stream of law-breakers they can ticket whenever they feel like it or need to boost revenue.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:28
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Fucknag posted:That said, I seem to remember reading that they're not actually as effective as was originally claimed due to faulty study methodology (ie DRLs stand out against cars without lights, but when everybody has them they confer no benefit). There's still benefit in low visibility weather since a lot of idiots run dark when they absolutely shouldn't.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:50
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Bajaha posted:There's still benefit in low visibility weather since a lot of idiots run dark when they absolutely shouldn't. Well that's something that could be overcome with better driver training. Which we'll never have.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:57
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Since we are bitching about both road design, and stupid people who don't understand stop lines - I drive through this intersection every day: The north/south lanes are at 55mph on a through road. The east/west traffic has stop signs, with the stop-line set way back to allow the high-speed north/south left turn lane traffic to exit the highway at a reasonable rate of speed following the green path (although I probably have it curved in a bit too early). At least 2 times per week I'll see some dumb-rear end pull forward like the red line/box on the picture, or even further forward, completely blocking the left turning traffic in some cases by pulling all the way forward to where they are actually in-line with that turn lane (it's really awesome when it's a semi doing this). There is *nothing* obstructing the vision of oncoming traffic in either direction, you can see north/south from the stop lines for half a mile or more, so I have no idea why idiots do this. 
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Nov 14, 2014 07:14
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Michael Scott posted:God I hate stop signs. Often where the line is painted you can't see traffic coming in a 2-way stop, so it's habit to stop a little further of the line. Which means basically 0% of people are following the letter of the stop sign law, including cops. And cops have a steady stream of law-breakers they can ticket whenever they feel like it or need to boost revenue. This right here. The DOT has regulations on where the signs and lines go. These regulations are set in stone, regardless of the reality of the world around them. In seemingly most situations the painted lines end up so far back that there is an insufficient sight line to see much more than if another car is actually stopped to your left or right, but not far enough down the road to see if someone is approaching/clueless/ready to blow their stop sign. A lot of this should fall to the local municipality to enforce clear sight lines to property owners on street corners, but I've never actually seen that done other than denying fence permits/requiring lower fencing near the corner. But that 14 foot tall patch of hydrangea on your corner that never gets trimmed is A-OK. Sorry, I'm rolling up so I can check. I don't need to get t-boned by one of the many clueless drivers on the road.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:32
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6inches of snow overnight in Boise? The apocalypse is upon us if other drivers behavior is any indication.  Spinning tires because people where flooring it? Check. Spinning out because bro-truck decided 4wheel skid is a-ok? Check. Grandma going 10mph in a 45 with fresh plowed roads? Check. 25 mile trip taking almost two hours this morning? Check. 
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Nov 14, 2014 17:34
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Motronic posted:This right here. In Japan, they install mirrors everywhere for just this reason. It works great. Here, vision is obstructed by cars (street parking) , fences, all sorts of things, so the only way to proceed is to basically inch into the street and hope you don't get hit. It sucks.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:46
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Motronic posted:Sorry, I'm rolling up so I can check. I don't need to get t-boned by one of the many clueless drivers on the road. I remember clearly being told by my driving instructor that you must stop at the line. If you can't see, you stop at the line anyway, then roll forward and stop again to see around the corner. I remember because one of the other kids just assumed you stopped at the line, then just went without looking. Like, the only place you could stop was at the line and had to keep moving no matter what elsewhere. This is also the kid who kept stalling the car because he wouldn't pull out onto the street if there was another car within two blocks of where we were and the car would overheat form idling in the summer. And he was also told you had to pay $10 or something to take your driving test at the DMV, so his plan was to just bring a stack of tens so he could keep trying until he passed. I hope he never passed.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:49
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 And there's still someone up his rear end.....
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Nov 14, 2014 17:49
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Uthor posted:If you can't see, you stop at the line anyway, then roll forward and stop again to see around the corner. Yep, that's what I do. Guess I wasn't really clear on that. Good to know that it "recommended". Just seems to make sense/have the least chance of getting a bullshit ticket.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:03
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PaganGoatPants posted:Whatever happened to daytime running lights? I'm on my fifth fleet car since 2008 and all of them had DRLs enabled as an option. If you really want to pay $150 to have them turn the option on at the factory/dealer I'm sure they'll take your money. Just don't get them and change your mind, apparently most of the time its a one-time switch and the only way to turn them back off is to replace the GEM. Geoj fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 18:16
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Yeah, there are definitely terrible stop signs, but people do this whether they can see or not. And they roll so far they block the other lanes, which is a ton of fun as a pedestrian too.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:16
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May Contain Nuts posted:Traffic circle in my town: Perhaps us brits have different attitudes to roundabouts. Hope your pedestrians aren't daft enough to try and cross using the middle. 
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Nov 14, 2014 21:13
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The sidewalk in the middle of a roundabout is really just a stylish apron that's strong enough for tractor trailers to drive over if they need to.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:32
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Safety Dance posted:The sidewalk in the middle of a roundabout is really just a stylish apron that's strong enough for tractor trailers to drive over if they need to. The first roundabout in this town was built a few years back. Just after it was finished, my son and I sat and watched a confused old lady do two or three laps around it on the apron one night. It was so astounding to see that we just sat and watched silently until she finally figured out wtf and drove off. Then we laughed like loons the rest of the way home.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:46
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sleepy.eyes posted:Yeah, there are definitely terrible stop signs, but people do this whether they can see or not. And they roll so far they block the other lanes, which is a ton of fun as a pedestrian too. Or they can be like my first accident where I stopped at the line, then creeped forward to look since you can't see traffic from the line. The lady behind me thought I was going and just slammed into the back of me.
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I'm loving depressed at the state of the roads and the drivers on them. It's reached the point where I can't leave my home, by car or on foot, to go anywhere or accomplish anything without someone putting my life in jeopardy through a heinous mixture of inattention and stupidity. I nearly got hit today crossing the street in a crosswalk with the walk signal -- it's a good thing I pay attention and noticed the car turning left wasn't going to stop and thus stopped walking myself, or I'd have ended up under the bumper of some lovely SUV. It's probably the third time in the past year the exact same thing has happened to me in the exact same location, and it's a standard, flat four-way intersection with 90-degree angles and standard traffic lights, with excellent visibility all around, not to even start to talk about all the other times I've nearly been hit in other places. Why the gently caress do we live in a world where people who can't be bothered to pay the slightest bit of loving attention to what they're doing can get driving licenses?
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