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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Zara is a high priced Spanish clothing store.

Also I am sure Romania could win at highest number of Gypsies per capita. Now, whether you think that is good or bad depends on who you listen to.

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3peat
May 6, 2010

Phlegmish posted:

Well we may have the most slaves, but at least we've got plenty of Zaras to make up for it.

Seriously, who cares about Zara.

They make great tight pants. Making my rear end look intriguing and my bulge look way bigger than it actually is ;)

3peat
May 6, 2010

Riso posted:

Zara is a high priced Spanish clothing store.

Also I am sure Romania could win at highest number of Gypsies per capita. Now, whether you think that is good or bad depends on who you listen to.

According to the 2011 census, they're just 3.09% of the population http://historymaps.ro/wp-content/uploads/Harti_ftp/mai/etnice/Romania2011/2011comune.jpg. They used to be more, but thanks to EU ascension most of them are in France these days :)

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
I'm pretty sure there are countries with worse average English proficiency than France. There was a survey from a few years back showing that Italians are worse at foreign languages than Frenchmen, and Spaniards are worse than Italians. Not to mention Easter European countries.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

OF COURSE The Netherlands has the most cyclist deaths in traffic accidents. 95% of Dutch traffic is cyclists.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
Tax haven central in Western Europe is the least educated? What?

Antwan3K
Mar 8, 2013

Riso posted:

Zara is a high priced Spanish clothing store.

Also I am sure Romania could win at highest number of Gypsies per capita. Now, whether you think that is good or bad depends on who you listen to.

isn't it a pretty cheap store?


Deltasquid posted:

Tax haven central in Western Europe is the least educated? What?

And Malta is hard to open a business? I thought it was also a tax haven with shitload of brassplate companies

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Whatever shall France do to deal with the huge issue of proficiency in a foreign language :ohdear:

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

That's right, we still have an intact housing culture where people rent instead of everybody wanting to own a house in the suburbs :germany:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Ofaloaf posted:

The Czech Republic has slavery?

Why do you think so many porn stars are Czech?

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Antwan3K posted:

And Malta is hard to open a business? I thought it was also a tax haven with shitload of brassplate companies
Moving an existing company, likely with a lot of money behind it, is probably not the same experience as trying to start from scratch there.

tractor fanatic
Sep 9, 2005

Pillbug
Wait I thought Luxembourg was one of those stupid rich microstates. Why is its education so low?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I am extremely racist against the Portuguese, so I blame them.

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe

tractor fanatic posted:

Wait I thought Luxembourg was one of those stupid rich microstates. Why is its education so low?

And what does "lowest education" even mean? Like percentage of population with a college degree? Or are most of their schools built below sea level?

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Bloodnose posted:

And what does "lowest education" even mean? Like percentage of population with a college degree? Or are most of their schools built below sea level?

Can't be the second one, the Netherlands would win.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

For comparison for how bad these kinds of statistics are: Of all OECD member countries, Netherlands is always in something like 2nd of 3rd place for best paid teachers.

Thing is, there's several pay scales for teachers. For some reason the OECD statistics folks only take the highest scale. MAYBE 5% of teachers here in the Netherlands are in that pay scale. The rest gets paid a whole lot less. Being a teacher is actually rather crappy here compared to a lot of other countries.

But idiot government folks like to use that statistic to show there's no need to put any money in education/hiring good teachers in the Netherlands.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Slavery in agriculture is common in Croatia. As in, you read about a few cases a year in the papers. There was also a well known case in which an ultra football fan group called The Myrmidons kept slaves in a beach hut. No word on whether any of them was fair Briseis.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Koramei posted:

Modern slavery is very much a thing in Europe, even the western parts. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's gone away. More than sex slavery too, there are people forced into stuff like being live-in servants and maids (although that's often entailing more than just cleaning...) too.



and of course in lots of the world you have loads of people that might as well be slaves, even if they're not classified as such

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Mauritania posted:

In 1981, Mauritania became the last country in the world to abolish slavery,[2] when a presidential decree abolished the practice. However, no criminal laws were passed to enforce the ban.[2][3][4] In 2007, "under international pressure", the government passed a law allowing slaveholders to be prosecuted.[2] Despite this, the number of slaves in the country has been estimated by the organization SOS Slavery to be up to 600,000 (or 20% of the population),[5][6] and by Global Slavery Index to be at least 140,000.[2] Sociologist Kevin Bales and Global Slavery Index estimate that Mauritania has the highest proportion of people in slavery of any country in the world.[7][8] While other countries in the region have people in "slavelike conditions", the situation in Mauritania is "unusually severe", according to African history professor Bruce Hall.[2]

What the gently caress Mauritania :catstare:

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Antwan3K posted:

And Malta is hard to open a business? I thought it was also a tax haven with shitload of brassplate companies

If they're taking "buying a physical property" into account I can see why it would be rated low.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011

HorseRenoir posted:

What the gently caress Mauritania :catstare:

Yeah that was the mindfuckiest part of my West Africa social study class. My Senegalese professor told us... stuff. :stonk:


Worse still, the gov acts like the legal ban magically and automatically ended the practice.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

Koramei posted:

Modern slavery is very much a thing in Europe, even the western parts. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's gone away. More than sex slavery too, there are people forced into stuff like being live-in servants and maids (although that's often entailing more than just cleaning...) too.



and of course in lots of the world you have loads of people that might as well be slaves, even if they're not classified as such

Shouldn't North Korea be like 90+%?

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

JosefStalinator posted:

Shouldn't North Korea be like 90+%?

North Korea is unlisted, which basically means "yes".

Backweb
Feb 14, 2009

Peanut President posted:

North Korea is unlisted, which basically means "yes".

"Yes" as an answer of percentage data is one of those oddities that only works for a case such as North Korea. Best Korea.


I like how a lot of these maps leaves out Taiwan due to the political ambiguity of the island. It has its own sovereign government that manages accurate and contemporary population data and it's incredibly easy to collect information.

I wonder if Wikipedia leaves the data for Taiwan out of their maps specifically so they don't get banned in the mainland.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I'm pretty sure wikipedia, or at least parts of it, is banned on the mainland

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
Also, the maps are made by users so any user can just go in an add information on Taiwan to the map.

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Talk about a first world problem. Apparently our lack of a certain kind of clothing store is the worst thing about Denmark.

Especially if you consider that the entire SPS conglomerate of clothing chains is Danish, there's cities in the Netherlands that offer nothing but chainstores that are related to SPS.

Riso posted:

Zara is a high priced Spanish clothing store.

Zara is not expensive, but they do rotate their collection really fast. Their sizing is also not at all compatible with Scandinavian/Dutch Tallness.
I also think it's a suspect store with regards to their cheapness/apparent wastefulness. Where do their clothes come from?

DONT TOUCH THE PC fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Nov 14, 2014

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

ecureuilmatrix posted:

Yeah that was the mindfuckiest part of my West Africa social study class. My Senegalese professor told us... stuff. :stonk:


Worse still, the gov acts like the legal ban magically and automatically ended the practice.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/08/freedom-fighter

It's a pretty good read.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

IndustrialApe posted:

Especially if you consider that the entire SPS conglomerate of clothing chains is Danish, there's cities in the Netherlands that offer nothing but chainstores that are related to SPS.


Zara is not expensive, but they do rotate their collection really fast. Their sizing is also not at all compatible with Scandinavian/Dutch Tallness.
I also think it's a suspect store with regards to their cheapness/apparent wastefulness. Where do their clothes come from?

I used to work in a office and zara had an office on the same floor across the road. It was just an entire floor full of discarded clothes.

I also don't really understand their business.

3peat
May 6, 2010

IndustrialApe posted:

Zara is not expensive, but they do rotate their collection really fast. Their sizing is also not at all compatible with Scandinavian/Dutch Tallness.
I also think it's a suspect store with regards to their cheapness/apparent wastefulness. Where do their clothes come from?

I just took a look at 3 pairs of my zara pants, 2 of them (the nicer ones) are made in Morocco, the third in Turkey.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



a pipe smoking dog posted:

I used to work in a office and zara had an office on the same floor across the road. It was just an entire floor full of discarded clothes.

I also don't really understand their business.

And as far as I know Spaniards don't have jobs, so how are they staffing the 400+ Zaras in Spain? Something fishy going on for sure.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Phlegmish posted:

And as far as I know Spaniards don't have jobs, so how are they staffing the 400+ Zaras in Spain? Something fishy going on for sure.

They bring in Portuguese people and Moroccans for that.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.

JosefStalinator posted:

Shouldn't North Korea be like 90+%?

The map is for literal slaves, I'm pretty sure. If you include North Korea's prison camp population, although it's obviously far worse there, it opens a (not completely unfair) precedent to include stuff like the US prisons too, which is a not dissimilar percentage of our population.

And then plenty of North Koreans live in slave-like conditions, but again, that would completely change how the rest of the map looks too.

and even then it's only a (fairly large relative to the rest of the world but still small) fraction of the population. people aren't living well but they're still living as people

totempoleman
Jan 20, 2005

Make a jazz note here.

Koramei posted:

Modern slavery is very much a thing in Europe, even the western parts. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's gone away. More than sex slavery too, there are people forced into stuff like being live-in servants and maids (although that's often entailing more than just cleaning...) too.



and of course in lots of the world you have loads of people that might as well be slaves, even if they're not classified as such

What's up with Moldova in this map???

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Koramei posted:

Modern slavery is very much a thing in Europe, even the western parts. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's gone away. More than sex slavery too, there are people forced into stuff like being live-in servants and maids (although that's often entailing more than just cleaning...) too.



and of course in lots of the world you have loads of people that might as well be slaves, even if they're not classified as such

Are there really that many literal slaves in India and Pakistan? I never suspected the percentage to be that high. Also a bit surprised by China and Russia.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

For the slave map, Moldova really stands out, and Bangladesh for being apparently lacking slaves despite being surrounded by areas with more.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Count Roland posted:

For the slave map, Moldova really stands out, and Bangladesh for being apparently lacking slaves despite being surrounded by areas with more.

All the slaves in Bangladesh were killed by building collapses.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011

:drat: This guy has balls so huge they liberate slaves by their sheer gravity.

pro-click, thanks.

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

mcustic posted:

Slavery in agriculture is common in Croatia. As in, you read about a few cases a year in the papers. There was also a well known case in which an ultra football fan group called The Myrmidons kept slaves in a beach hut. No word on whether any of them was fair Briseis.

:allears:

Were the leaders of this group even in a homosexual relationship?

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Broken Cog posted:

Are there really that many literal slaves in India and Pakistan? I never suspected the percentage to be that high. Also a bit surprised by China and Russia.

It depends on what you mean by "literal slave", these sort of things usually mean unfree labor which is effectively the same thing but doesn't have the flashy imagery of 1850s Georgia. For example, in the US tomato industry, it's common for a human trafficker to promise transport to the US and a job upon arrival which the immigrant will work on until the debt is paid off. The job is low income treated as a contract labor job that pays by productivity and winds up working out to $1.50-4.00 an hour. The job does provide housing and food but that comes at a price, garnished from their paychecks, additionally the laborers pay more money garnished out of their income to pay for security guards who "monitor and protect them" at all hours, and more is garnished to pay for their debt. Sometimes they can start to pay off their debts but a lot of times it just gets worse. If they do manage to go to the police, in many states it's likely they will be arrested and sent back to their country of citizenship. The US is really good about modern slavery, and this stuff exists here. When you see the picture of Ronald Reagan eating grapes, this is the practice he was endorsing to keep being a thing in California's grape industry.



That said, it will also depend on how they report their data, there are a LOT of people operating under this sort of system that are from India and Pakistan but who live and work in Dubai under even worse conditions than the US tomato industry. If that is reported as citizens of India and Pakistan instead of temporary residents of UAE, that'd help explain it. There's also a huge thing of black market coal mining in India that operates with unfree labor.

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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Broken Cog posted:

Are there really that many literal slaves in India and Pakistan? I never suspected the percentage to be that high. Also a bit surprised by China and Russia.
Wasn't there a recentish case, where an Indian diplomat wanted the US to return her runaway slave maid? Where it seemed like the Indian upper class really didn't see what the big deal was.

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