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Nitrox posted:It is literally the first, second and third result on google for Pavel Trofimovich Morozov. Or am I being trolled here? Pavel (Pavlik) Morozov was a "heroic" boyscout martyr who ratted out his family to the red comissars and then was killed by the remaining relatives.
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fatherboxx posted:Pavel (Pavlik) Morozov was a "heroic" boyscout martyr who ratted out his family to the red comissars and then was killed by the remaining relatives. And further investigation suggests that he was actually coerced into snitching about his dad by his mother because he had abandoned them and she wanted revenge. And exactly what crime the father committed (and who they reported it to) varies depending on what era the propagandist is talking to.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:33
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chitoryu12 posted:And further investigation suggests that he was actually coerced into snitching about his dad by his mother because he had abandoned them and she wanted revenge. I thought the 'further investigation' largely shows that, while a 'real person' the story around his martyrdom for the soviet cause is largely a propaganda fiction.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:53
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With the upcoming Latvian Presidency of the Council of the European Union I may as well post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfwFwZBnrs8
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Nov 14, 2014 10:29
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kalstrams posted:With the upcoming Latvian Presidency of the Council of the European Union I may as well post this:
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Nov 14, 2014 10:56
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Forgall posted:No mention of potato, 0/10. You don't talk about potatoes, you eat them.
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Nov 14, 2014 11:01
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Karmalis posted:You don't talk about potatoes, you eat them. quote:Latvian kosmonaut go to moon. Latvian kosmonaut report bakk: How many Latvian does it take to changings lightbulb? posted:Four. quote:Two latvian look at clouds. One see potato. Other see impossible dream. Is same cloud. Edit: Added one more for good measure. Edit2: Replaced second one to have full spectrum of what these "jokes" are. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 11:19
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kalstrams posted:
Okay, I like this one.
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Nov 14, 2014 11:25
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kalstrams posted:With the upcoming Latvian Presidency of the Council of the European Union I may as well post this: i dont get it
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Nov 14, 2014 13:59
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kalstrams posted:With the upcoming Latvian Presidency of the Council of the European Union I may as well post this: This made me feel all warm and fluffy inside.
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Nov 14, 2014 14:04
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kalstrams posted:There are potato jokes about Latvians. While they are dumb, I like dumb things and Internet culture so I find them awesome. A few of my (really dumb) favourites: Lol, those are some interesting ones. To be honest as a Lithuanian neighbour-brother I've never heard anyone joke about Latvians and potatoes. More jokes about the language as it sounds a little funny to us. Nice video though. You should be proud.
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Nov 14, 2014 15:36
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Karmalis posted:Lol, those are some interesting ones. To be honest as a Lithuanian neighbour-brother I've never heard anyone joke about Latvians and potatoes. More jokes about the language as it sounds a little funny to us.  Speaking of potato jokes, they have originated from English speaking part of Internet and are popular only there, for as popular as they are at least.
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Swedish PM confirms submarine incursion(s) last month. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...last-month.html
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Nov 14, 2014 16:09
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Going all the way back to the oil price discussion, the greater emphasis should be on the reduction of Chinese growth as the primary catalyst that started the recent dive, basically July was the point there was no way longer to deny China isn't going to have much farther reduced growth, the bulls were wrong again and prices had to meet reality in a very hard way. I think there needs to be emphasis placed on the fact that as the USD regulated commodities that speculative markets have only grown far more robust especially among commodities, and once a bubble pops now it is going to happen in a big way. Of course growing deflation in Europe, SA's refusal to decrease supply and other factors have their impact, but China is absolutely #1. The events in Eastern Europe have relatively minor impact, Ukraine is not a large market for oil and Russia while larger still isn't going to compare to something like Chinese consumption. The rest of Eastern Europe is still likely to be affected by flatlined growth in the rest of Europe than events in Ukraine itself. As for the political conspiracies, it makes a lot more sense just to accept far more mundane economic realities even if it isn't as fun.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:10
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Benito Hitlerstalin posted:Swedish PM confirms submarine incursion(s) last month. Man, if only they hadn't scrapped their anti-submarine helicopter force
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Nov 14, 2014 16:16
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CommieGIR posted:Man, if only they hadn't scrapped their anti-submarine helicopter force But the Soviets were done. We were going to be friends! 
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Nov 14, 2014 16:21
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So Perviy Kanal (Russian state TV) put out a horribly photoshopped "satellite photo" of a Ukrainian fighter jet shooting down MH17. Within an hour or so, it's pretty clear that it's photoshopped for a hilariously long number of reasons.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:15
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vegaji posted:So Perviy Kanal (Russian state TV) put out a horribly photoshopped "satellite photo" of a Ukrainian fighter jet shooting down MH17. Within an hour or so, it's pretty clear that it's photoshopped for a hilariously long number of reasons. Yea it has made some news sites already. If someone can tell us what is the plane that was photoshopped in. I'm reading people say it is supposed to be a MiG-29. Google translated article about the jet being shot down. Original article that has the news report. May not load due to heavy traffic. 
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Nov 14, 2014 19:25
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BouncingBuckyBalls posted:Yea it has made some news sites already. If someone can tell us what is the plane that was photoshopped in. I'm reading people say it is supposed to be a MiG-29. I guess they don't teach critical thinking in schools in Russia?
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Nov 14, 2014 19:29
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Biggest reason to not buy this: You know how fast most fighters cruise at? Not to mention how far away they usually fire their weapons. Its so obviously fake it hurts.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:31
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When Russian state media does poo poo like this, are they following orders from higher up, or do they all just do their own thing? It would explain why they can't keep their stories straight.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:31
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BouncingBuckyBalls posted:Yea it has made some news sites already. If someone can tell us what is the plane that was photoshopped in. I'm reading people say it is supposed to be a MiG-29. Given that we know the left front of the plane was hit, I guess that shot was a miss. If they're going to fake their evidence, at least fake it in a believable way.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:32
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Finlander posted:When Russian state media does poo poo like this, are they following orders from higher up, or do they all just do their own thing? It would explain why they can't keep their stories straight. Look into a book called "The Compromise" by Sergei Dovlatov. It's basically a satire of Soviet propaganda by a former Soviet propagandist. Wouldn't be surprised how much of that still holds true.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:35
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Finlander posted:When Russian state media does poo poo like this, are they following orders from higher up, or do they all just do their own thing? It would explain why they can't keep their stories straight. Russia can't even afford to maintain it's nuclear arsenal and you think they're going to hand hold state-media? Those guys earned Russian-journalism degrees, they go hog wild on their mad photoshop & AOL instant messenger skills.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:36
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So real you can practically hear the plane going "pew-pew"
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Nov 14, 2014 19:40
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BouncingBuckyBalls posted:Yea it has made some news sites already. If someone can tell us what is the plane that was photoshopped in. I'm reading people say it is supposed to be a MiG-29. I've been looking at this, so far - The Malaysia airlines logo on the starboard side is in the wrong place. - The plane is 50km west of the crash site. - Some of the sat image is from Google Earth. We'll post a thorough debunking on Bellingcat later.
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A few reasons why it's hilariously bad: Satellite image is from 2012 (cloud cover, crop patterns) The plane was hit from the front-left, not the right side Plane is an SU-27 or MiG-29, not SU-25 (as Russian government has claimed before) You can't take photographs like that of moving planes, especially so hi-res. Logo on MH17 is off (should be above the wing). edit: beaten by a few seconds!
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Yeah it JUST SO HAPPENS that a satellite was taking a hi-res photo of that exact spot right when the jet fired! What are the odds!?
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Well, it not being a Su-25 actually makes it more credible, given the whole thing about Su-25 being too slow, too low, and too lightly armed to be a plausible suspect. Anyway, speaking of Russian media, looks like there is a prety high chance that the editorial team of the independent Echo of Moscow radio station may be replaced as soon as next week...
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Nov 14, 2014 19:52
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So is Teodor going to start posting that pic as proof now? Russians will obv eat this up, right?
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BouncingBuckyBalls posted:Yea it has made some news sites already. If someone can tell us what is the plane that was photoshopped in. I'm reading people say it is supposed to be a MiG-29. This is Iran levels of pathetic.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:07
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Fojar38 posted:This is Iran levels of pathetic. It was broadcast through their main news channel as facts. 
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awesome-express posted:So is Teodor going to start posting that pic as proof now? Russians will obv eat this up, right? Let me post for him: 'Look how Russian Military can back claims with a satellite photograph. Where are the photos to back NATO's claim of troops on the border? All you have is anonymous claims and Russophobic lies, we have photo evidence  '
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Nov 14, 2014 20:08
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The only story I hope somebody is working on is keeping track of the BuK that shot the airliner down. Like make a blog about it, and when it's finally time for the good guys to steam roll the ruskies, I want to see that blog's last posting be the charred remains of the BuK.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:11
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McDowell posted:Let me post for him: I think a "Big, Gay Putin" photoshop phriday challenge would go over well for SA, and get the site hacked by Russians again.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:15
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My Imaginary GF posted:I think a "Big, Gay Putin" photoshop phriday challenge would go over well for SA, and get the site hacked by Russians again. How long ago did SA get hacked by Russians? I am interested in why this happened.
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Ardennes posted:Going all the way back to the oil price discussion, the greater emphasis should be on the reduction of Chinese growth as the primary catalyst that started the recent dive, basically July was the point there was no way longer to deny China isn't going to have much farther reduced growth, the bulls were wrong again and prices had to meet reality in a very hard way. China is the big one and even the IEA is putting all growth in oil consumption in Asia and other developing places (mostly China/India). The lower prices is temporary though, there's a lot of producers who are going to start eating poo poo, or alternatively one of the weaker oil-dependent nations (looking at you Venezuela) is going to crash and burn. Things are about to get rather unstable and who knows after the market "corrects" itself. Further oil production growth is going to be crippled for a year or three if this goes on for a couple months and then it's only a matter of time before either demand catches up or current well decline does. As for a more indepth look, I found this article today that does a nice run-through of IEAs "predictions" over the recent decade or so: http://integralpermaculture.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/watching-the-watchdogs-10-years-of-the-iea-world-energy-outlook/ The bottom graph from the IEA is pretty funny with how blatant it is.
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As we know by now, the Internet is a CIA project and used by the USA to spread its imperialist agenda. Therefore it is only natural that Russia is planning their own version of Wikipedia. To keep you safe. http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/11/14/russia-wikipedia-alternative-idINKCN0IY1YW20141114 quote:(Reuters) - Russia plans to create its own "Wikipedia" to ensure its citizens have access to more "detailed and reliable" information about their country, the presidential library said on Friday.
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Fabulous Knight posted:As we know by now, the Internet is a CIA project and used by the USA to spread its imperialist agenda. Therefore it is only natural that Russia is planning their own version of Wikipedia. To keep you safe. I hope their next project is too encapsulate themselves in a pocket dimension so they can be free of western influence once and for all.
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Fabulous Knight posted:As we know by now, the Internet is a CIA project and used by the USA to spread its imperialist agenda. Therefore it is only natural that Russia is planning their own version of Wikipedia. To keep you safe. Now that the price of oil is dropping Russia is going to start exporting comedy gold. Any bets on whether or not this is going to be as hilarious as Conservapedia?
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