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I can't help but feel that this show would be much better if it had three or four more episodes to play with and develop their ideas.
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Jackard posted:Same here. Is this normal for this time of day? Nope, no it isn't. I ended up getting it from a different source. This was a pretty good episode. The best parts were the Bolin and Varrick storyline and everything involving Prince Wu (oh, and Pabu for the five seconds we saw him). And Kuvira appears to have added ethnic cleansing to her list of crimes. Thank God nobody's defending her anymore (and no, that's not an invitation to the posters in this thread). Carlosologist posted:I can't help but feel that this show would be much better if it had three or four more episodes to play with and develop their ideas. This show seems to do really well with either really short stories (Wan's story, Roku's story) or longer seasons. They seem to trip up with stuff in between. Frankly, I'd rather have them be too ambitious and cram too much awesome stuff in than drag out boring stuff nobody cares about (pretty much all the romance).
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Nov 14, 2014 17:37
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Sato posted:And Kuvira appears to have added ethnic cleansing to her list of crimes. Thank God nobody's defending her anymore (and no, that's not an invitation to the posters in this thread). I wonder how people would defend that. "Oh yes she's putting waterbenders in camps but not as many as people say she is." "They're not really gas chambers. They're showers that spray a treatment for lice-ticks." "These non-earth benders just want people to feel sorry for them so that they can establish their own independent state."
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Nov 14, 2014 18:04
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Nov 14, 2014 18:11
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:Why was the episode taken down off Nick's site? My guess is technical issues. Rosalind posted:I wonder how people would defend that. "What are they even doing in the EARTH Kingdom? They should go back to their own nations anyway. Kuvira is fostering Earth Empire pride after years of being trodden down by outsiders." 
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Nov 14, 2014 18:16
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Steensma posted:Season 3 and this season are among the best animated seasons I've ever seen. There are flaws, sometimes generated by the limitations of the 13-episode format, but it's not like Avatar was without its flaws either. When the dust settles, we'll be able to look at both of them as fantastic, but very different pieces of American television. I don't agree. We already basically know what happened in 3 years. By skipping right to the drama they avoid wasting our time.
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The episode itself was fine and the dialogue was fine and everything was fine, but I'm really not getting over how un-dynamic some of the animation has been, both in this episode and the last. Individual frames are totally fine, so it's not the Studio Pierrot problem, the kung fu poses themselves are great, and even Bolin's scenes were good. But the scenes in Republic City felt like they were done by a different studio or something, they just weren't following very good animation principles. Korra blowing the two mooks into the train ceiling should be a sudden ABRUPT SLAM, but instead it was like she just lifted them up at normal speed and all of a sudden it hurts them. Same with the earlier scene where she earthbent at the car; instead of her SMASHING down on the ground it was like she gently slow-motion touched down. There were some of the same lack-of-energy issues with the Kuvira fight last episode too that seems so uncharacteristic for this show, and I'm hoping it's not that they ran out of time and money for some of the scenes or something and are just saving their load for the big orgasmic finale. 
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BrianWilly posted:The episode itself was fine and the dialogue was fine and everything was fine, but I'm really not getting over how un-dynamic some of the animation has been, both in this episode and the last. Individual frames are totally fine, so it's not the Studio Pierrot problem, the kung fu poses themselves are great, and even Bolin's scenes were good. But the scenes in Republic City felt like they were done by a different studio or something, they just weren't following very good animation principles. Korra blowing the two mooks into the train ceiling should be a sudden ABRUPT SLAM, but instead it was like she just lifted them up at normal speed and all of a sudden it hurts them. Same with the earlier scene where she earthbent at the car; instead of her SMASHING down on the ground it was like she gently slow-motion touched down. I think they're trying to show Korra's not at full strength yet. Normally she would be slamming people down but fighting is still a bit of a struggle. I don't think it's being portrayed as well as it should be and I could be totally wrong, but that's the impression I got.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:21
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Bolin and Varricks plot line is so much fun to watch. Having Bolin learn lava-bending is one of the best decisions they made, it makes his fight scenes so much more interesting.
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VaultAggie posted:Bolin and Varricks plot line is so much fun to watch. Having Bolin learn lava-bending is one of the best decisions they made, it makes his fight scenes so much more interesting.
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Bolin + Varrick is absolute magic. Lavabending looks pretty drat awesome, and I love how Varrick just science'd up an EMP blast just like that! Highlight of the episode: Varrick & Bolin walking past their wanted posters, and he turns and grins at the guard. Also, very curious how many different kinds of hell will be raised in the swamp. Also, Wu didn't annoy me nearly as much as I thought he would! I was generally a fan of the interaction, this time. Especially liked the short fight scene in/on the train; I like how metal bending is never as flashy as the typical bending styles we've seen in the series, but much more physical, with wires, roofs violently ripped open, metal barriers slowly curving in on people, and - oh yeah - the FLYING KNIVES. Still waitin' for that swordbender.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:It's also given him a lot more confidence and has made him the most likable he's been since the first half of Book 1. I'm wondering if that's just due to lavabending. He did just spend the last three years moving up the ranks of Kuvira's army, gaining more respect and leadership opportunities as he advanced. One of his problems was that no one ever took him seriously (Mako treated him as someone to be protected, he was struggling to find his place, people were justifiably shooting down his awful ideas) so being taken seriously and finding a position where he felt he belonged probably helped too.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:45
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I liked Varrick's electromagnet trick there, it was a great way to not have him be dead weight in a fight and it really played to his strength. And lava bending was the best thing to ever happen to Bolin's character, wow. At first I was really unsure about the mechs being around, but they're a good device for getting around the space sword problem.
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:Why was the episode taken down off Nick's site? It's back up now, just FYI! It's a good episode.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:51
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Oh gently caress no, they're stepping on Toph's turf. They best bounce else they get hosed up.
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Why does Mako wait til the last episode of every book to bust out the lightning card? That poo poo is a game changer!
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hiddenriverninja posted:Why does Mako wait til the last episode of every book to bust out the lightning card? That poo poo is a game changer! It's not actually that useful. It's extremely powerful but has a long windup and is fairly easily avoided. Almost every time he uses it involves an unaware enemy.
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Torquemadras posted:Also, very curious how many different kinds of hell will be raised in the swamp. Enough that my guess is that Kuvira might end up going to Republic City for the rest of the vines she needs if she's chased off. And do you hate puppies and rainbows? Wu is amazing. Though it seems this will be the last we see of him for a while. One of Mako's jobs was apparently watching Wu pee, I'm assuming to make sure nobody was hiding in the urinal. Also, we finally heard about Omashu, at least in passing with the train going there. I wonder if the consequences of Kuvira going to the swamp will require Team Avatar to go to Omashu, considering how close it is. ImpAtom posted:It's not actually that useful. It's extremely powerful but has a long windup and is fairly easily avoided. Almost every time he uses it involves an unaware enemy. It also drains a lot of chi.
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People kept theorizing that Zaheer is going to make an appearance this season as Korra confronting him would be part of the healing process. Perhaps he's imprisoned beneath Omashu in some sort creeping crystal prison. I could see some creative uses of constantly growing crystals as a good way of keeping him out of the spirit world and preventing him from airbending.
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Deakul posted:Oh gently caress no, they're stepping on Toph's turf. ImpAtom posted:It's not actually that useful. It's extremely powerful but has a long windup and is fairly easily avoided. Almost every time he uses it involves an unaware enemy.
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VaultAggie posted:Bolin and Varricks plot line is so much fun to watch. Having Bolin learn lava-bending is one of the best decisions they made, it makes his fight scenes so much more interesting. Yes, this. I'm finding I want more Varrick, more Bolin, and less Korra.
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Rosalind posted:People kept theorizing that Zaheer is going to make an appearance this season as Korra confronting him would be part of the healing process. Perhaps he's imprisoned beneath Omashu in some sort creeping crystal prison. I could see some creative uses of constantly growing crystals as a good way of keeping him out of the spirit world and preventing him from airbending. In the trailer they show Korra entering a building guarded by the White Lotus that is exactly as you describe so I wouldn't be surprised if you were right.
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Does anyone think we'll be seeing more of the swampbenders? It'd be pretty cool to see them kicking Kuvira's rear end.
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I really think they're just going to let Kuvira tear down the swamp. That's kinda the tone of the show. They establish an old thing as great, the bad guy destroys it. Everything is impermanence, guys!
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Sato posted:In the trailer they show Korra entering a building guarded by the White Lotus that is exactly as you describe so I wouldn't be surprised if you were right. It would be hilariously ironic for Korra to go to Zaheer to get advice on how to take down a world leader. I hope this happens.  dj_clawson posted:I really think they're just going to let Kuvira tear down the swamp. That's kinda the tone of the show. They establish an old thing as great, the bad guy destroys it. Everything is impermanence, guys! If you think about it, it fits right in with the modernist era and tone in the show. The modern age destroyed, devalued, and deconstructed everything from the 19th and 18th centuries. Illusions about what was right, and sacred, and impermeable, like imperialistic notions of colonialism, and the dependability and justness of rulers, leaders, and kings, were shattered by events like the World Wars, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. Newtonian/Cartesian notions of a logical universe were broken down by developments in mathematics, philosophy, art, and quantum mechanics. The same thing is happening to the Avatar World's traditions and symbols. The Earth Kingdom's monarchy was revealed to be a corrupt, fragile sham -- this was shown by the destruction of Ba Sing Se's walls. The Avatar is a pop culture figure. Lightningbending is used by proletarian industrial workers to power cities. It all kind of fits in neatly with the 20th century zeitgeist that's been shown in the show. DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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meristem posted:I'm not so sure - in a place with a lot of metal, do you have to hit them directly? Or water, we saw that be lethal last season.
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dj_clawson posted:I really think they're just going to let Kuvira tear down the swamp. That's kinda the tone of the show. They establish an old thing as great, the bad guy destroys it. Everything is impermanence, guys! drat it, you're probably right and Toph's going to  in the most anticlimactic way possible.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:40
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Also anyone notice that Avatar is inadvertently turning into James Cameron's Avatar? A bunch of militant technologists are going to tear down a tree with spiritual powers in order to fuel their war machine.
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DrSunshine posted:It would be hilariously ironic for Korra to go to Zaheer to get advice on how to take down a world leader. I hope this happens. Oh hell yes. "Okay, so, get ready to have a one-liner prepped for the tyrant's ironic demise. Like... Your evil plans are put on ICE! And then you stab 'em with an icicle."
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Nov 14, 2014 19:47
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So it wasn't enough that the villain of this season is literally Hitler, we also had to go full holocaust mode and have her moving non-earthempire nationals into prison camps? Okay. Also Steve Blum, I love you man, but you seriously need to increase your range a bit. I had you pegged as that firebender's voice the second he opened his mouth. 
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Swear to god, if Toph does anything but frag Kuvira in a match-up, imma write some angry words on the Internet.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:07
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$10 says Toph rocks the poo poo out of Kuvira, and just as she's about to end the fight Baatar Jr rolls up with Suyin as a hostage, and Toph surrenders to be captured or "killed".
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Did the character Steve Blum voice look a little like Spike from Cowboy Bebop?
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Tpoh will beat the poo poo out of a lot of people, almost defeat Kuvira and then get shot by the dubstep cannon. Alternatively, sudden Metal Gear.
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Toph is definitely going down in a blaze of glory or surviving and returning in the finale. Varrick continues his renaissance to an actual person and keeps being incredible.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Did the character Steve Blum voice look a little like Spike from Cowboy Bebop? For some reason the first character that popped into my head was Wan, but you're probably right considering how the creators loved Cowboy Bebop.
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Sydin posted:Also Steve Blum, I love you man, but you seriously need to increase your range a bit. I had you pegged as that firebender's voice the second he opened his mouth. Mraagvpeine posted:Did the character Steve Blum voice look a little like Spike from Cowboy Bebop?
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ufarn posted:Swear to god, if Toph does anything but frag Kuvira in a match-up, imma write some angry words on the Internet. Personally I hope they're basically equals, or nearly so - if Toph has to try and guard the tree, maybe Kuvira can get some shots in she wouldn't otherwise. Hell, maybe Toph succeeds in protecting the tree, and Kuvira has to go to republic city to get more vines or something.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Did the character Steve Blum voice look a little like Spike from Cowboy Bebop? Sydin posted:So it wasn't enough that the villain of this season is literally Hitler, we also had to go full holocaust mode and have her moving non-earthempire nationals into prison camps? Okay. There is almost 0% chance Steve Blum wasn't asked to guest star as Not Spike Spiegel.
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