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Vahakyla posted:I was not kidding though when I asked that I really wonder what those people did at work. If you avoid all work for literally years, doesn't it seem funny? Do they just go to work and twiddle with thumbs until they go home? I think mostly you just look annoyed. Although seriously, not doing anything is only an issue if everyone else is working hard. If there is pervasive attitude of 'gently caress it' in the who group, then they were probably just sitting around shooting the poo poo or watching sports of posting on comedy forums.
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Ashcans posted:I think mostly you just look annoyed. The NOPD is already under a consent decree because of systematic civil rights violations. 20 years ago, after a woman reported an officer beating a kid to the cops, the officer paid someone to murder her. They also had a brisk drug dealing business operating in the precinct. OPP (Orleans Parish Prison which, to be fair, is run by the sheriff) is also under a consent decree because it is notorious even among prisons for prison violence and bad behavior by the guards. A few years back there were prisoners strolling out of it down to the french quarter and documenting it for Facebook. What I'm saying is that the NOPD is literally the largest gang on the streets of New Orleans and the IG is promising more stories like this one as he examines other units.
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Yeah I remember when that big DOJ report about the NOPD came out, the most darkly humorous part was where they noted that NOPD was so totally inept that they frequently got bit by their own police dogs.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:47
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Yeah I remember when that big DOJ report about the NOPD came out, the most darkly humorous part was where they noted that NOPD was so totally inept that they frequently got bit by their own police dogs. Okay that is funny as gently caress.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:35
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Vahakyla posted:I was not kidding though when I asked that I really wonder what those people did at work. If you avoid all work for literally years, doesn't it seem funny? Do they just go to work and twiddle with thumbs until they go home? No doubt the department wants to case this as a few bad apples bad applin', but for such a thing to be possible requires an inexcusable level of managerial and administrative neglect.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:12
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Randbrick posted:No doubt the department wants to case this as a few bad apples bad applin', but for such a thing to be possible requires an inexcusable level of managerial and administrative neglect. Its really not that hard to putz off in any career field and get away with it dude. Like I know you really want to hate cops for everything but you're being unrealistically nit picky.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:28
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Cole posted:Its really not that hard to putz off in any career field and get away with it dude. How would their supervisor not realize for years that half of their unit was literally not producing any reports whatsoever?
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Nov 14, 2014 21:45
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Cichlid the Loach posted:How would their supervisor not realize for years that half of their unit was literally not producing any reports whatsoever? Because they are doing the same thing?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:22
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Cole posted:Its really not that hard to putz off in any career field and get away with it dude. Really?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:40
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Cole is a police apologist and extremely authoritarian GiP poster, just ignore him when he tries to protect those poor poor corrupt detectives.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:40
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Cole posted:Its really not that hard to putz off in any career field and get away with it dude. Right, because police failing to investigate crimes is exactly the same as slacking off at your loving Starbucks job.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:46
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Randbrick posted:Are you really prepared to excuse this level of malfeasance as simple slacking? From detectives working a violent crimes or sexual violence beat? Yes. Why does it have to be more than that?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:47
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Cole posted:Yes. Why does it have to be more than that? You are morally bankrupt.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:50
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Cole posted:Yes. Why does it have to be more than that? Here, I'll help you out because you obviously don't know poo poo about the NOPD: The NOPD is already under a consent decree because of systematic civil rights violations. 20 years ago, after a woman reported an officer beating a kid to the cops, the officer paid someone to murder her. They also had a brisk drug dealing business operating in the precinct. OPP (Orleans Parish Prison which, to be fair, is run by the sheriff) is also under a consent decree because it is notorious even among prisons for prison violence and bad behavior by the guards. A few years back there were prisoners strolling out of it down to the french quarter and documenting it for Facebook. What I'm saying is that the NOPD is literally the largest gang on the streets of New Orleans and the IG is promising more stories like this one as he examines other units.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:52
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Cole posted:Yes. Why does it have to be more than that? Because it is more than that. Though maybe it won't seem that way if you're in denial, a sociopath, or a complete moron. Cops should absolutely be held to a higher standard than workers who don't have the ability or obligation to maintain public order, save/take lives or to help serve justice.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:53
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Zwiftef posted:Here, I'll help you out because you obviously don't know poo poo about the NOPD: Dear DND, aside from the snarky beginning this is generally how you engage people you disagree with. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:54
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Cole posted:Dear DND, aside from the snarky beginning this is generally how you engage people you disagree with. Cole seriously thought the NOPD were all a bunch of good 'ole boys with a hard job.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Cole seriously thought the NOPD were all a bunch of good 'ole boys with a hard job. No I didn't but I want to ask which way you want the conversation to progress when you post things like this? Shitposting? Flaming? I basically said "you are right I am wrong" but I guess that's not how I'm supposed to post here? You buttsniffer. Cole fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 23:04
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Cole posted:No I didn't but I want to ask which way you want the conversation to progress when you post things like this? Shitposting? Flaming? You to realize how much cop dick you are sucking? Nah, just kidding. I know it's sometimes hard to realize that cops are corrupt. But not all cops. I mean, there's corrupt cops and then there's cops who aren't corrupt but stay quiet when they witness or know about corruption.
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Nov 14, 2014 23:07
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Cole posted:Its really not that hard to putz off in any career field and get away with it dude. So you think that anger towards officers who are ignoring their duty to investigate rape cases is unwarranted? Is that because you believe that rape just isn't that big of a deal or what? Why is it "unrealistically nit picky" to expect police officers assigned to investigate violent crime to actually spend time investigating violent crime? Cole posted:Dear DND, aside from the snarky beginning this is generally how you engage people you disagree with. You still haven't cleared anything up. Why is anger towards NOPD unwarranted in this situation?
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Nov 14, 2014 23:08
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Cole posted:No I didn't but I want to ask which way you want the conversation to progress when you post things like this? Shitposting? Flaming? Loling at how you accuse someone of flaming then edit your post to add a juvenile insult at the end 
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Solkanar512 posted:So you think that anger towards officers who are ignoring their duty to investigate rape cases is unwarranted? Is that because you believe that rape just isn't that big of a deal or what? Why is it "unrealistically nit picky" to expect police officers assigned to investigate violent crime to actually spend time investigating violent crime? When did I say its bad to be angry at those guys? Or do you just want me to say that? I just said its easy to putz off st work and you got "but its ok!" out of that? Stop filling in blanks that don't exist.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Loling at how you accuse someone of flaming then edit your post to add a juvenile insult at the end Sorry I thought that's how I was supposed to post since rational conversation doesnt appeal to you 
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Cole posted:When did I say its bad to be angry at those guys? Or do you just want me to say that? I just said its easy to putz off st work and you got "but its ok!" out of that? Stop filling in blanks that don't exist. Cole posted:Its really not that hard to putz off in any career field and get away with it dude. Right here.
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Cole posted:When did I say its bad to be angry at those guys? Or do you just want me to say that? I just said its easy to putz off st work and you got "but its ok!" out of that? Stop filling in blanks that don't exist. You thought people were nit picking regarding an officer that tossed a report about a raped two year old having an std. Or an officer assigned to investigate rapes thought simple rape shouldn't even be a crime.
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Solkanar512 posted:Right here. No, filing paperwork incorrectly, as I read the situation before someone corrected me without being a shithead, isn't a big deal and you're being nitpicky. If you follow the conversation youll see where I said I was wrong. I AM AGREEING WITH YOU DND, LEARN TO TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER.
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DARPA posted:You thought people were nit picking regarding an officer that tossed a report about a raped two year old having an std. Or an officer assigned to investigate rapes thought simple rape shouldn't even be a crime. And I was misinformed. Instead of what YOU are doing right now someone actually corrected me .
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Cole posted:And I was misinformed. Instead of what YOU are doing right now someone actually corrected me . You defaulted to boot licking terrible officers and then seem legitimately confused why people have a problem with you.
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Cole posted:No, filing paperwork incorrectly, as I read the situation before someone corrected me without being a shithead, isn't a big deal and you're being nitpicky. If you follow the conversation youll see where I said I was wrong. They weren't filing paperwork incorrectly, they were not producing it in the first place. For like 85% of their cases, there was no investigation and there exist no records whatsoever beyond the initial report. They were literally doing absolutely nothing. A few times they were asked for reports from a few years back, and they created them same-day and backdated them.
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DARPA posted:You defaulted to boot licking terrible officers and then seem legitimately confused why people have a problem with you. New Orleans really should just fire their entire government and start over though. They literally couldn't do worse just drafting people of the street to run that city.
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Cichlid the Loach posted:They weren't filing paperwork incorrectly, they were not producing it in the first place. For like 85% of their cases, there was no investigation and there exist no records whatsoever beyond the initial report. They were literally doing absolutely nothing. A few times they were asked for reports from a few years back, and they created them same-day and backdated them. Which I got corrected on and immediately conceded my argument so now you're just doing post game coverage.
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Cole posted:No, filing paperwork incorrectly, as I read the situation before someone corrected me without being a shithead, isn't a big deal and you're being nitpicky. If you follow the conversation youll see where I said I was wrong. But as I think you've seen, this is a lot worse than just loose cannon cops not getting their timesheets in before close of business. Hell, I've had my proverbial timesheets in late, too. But to use an analogy, it's one thing to not have a file properly documented and it's quite another to do gently caress-all nothing for years on end as a violent crimes or sex crimes detective. An awful lot of things have to go completely sidewise in sequence for that to be possible. This is a very disturbing organizational problem that extends at least up to the lieutenant or captain level of the NOPD's organization, and which persisted for an incredibly long time. I think we're in agreement on that, though. Not looking to pile on you.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Loling at how you accuse someone of flaming then edit your post to add a juvenile insult at the end Stop being a loving baby and trying to turn an argument into dumbass point-scoring pissing match. All you had to do was stop responding after he said you were right but instead you try to get some after-action digs in on him like a Usenet nightmare that never ends. Drop it.
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Stop being a loving baby and trying to turn an argument into dumbass point-scoring pissing match. All you had to do was stop responding after he said you were right but instead you try to get some after-action digs in on him like a Usenet nightmare that never ends. Drop it. If D&D had moderators, I'd agree. But at this point might as well just drop to insults.
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Stop being a loving baby and trying to turn an argument into dumbass point-scoring pissing match. All you had to do was stop responding after he said you were right but instead you try to get some after-action digs in on him like a Usenet nightmare that never ends. Drop it. Uhh right that's nice of you I guess
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/new-jersey-accused-flashing-traffic-stops-article-1.2015294quote:A 37-year-old New Jersey policeman has been arrested and charged with official misconduct for allegedly unzipping his fly during several traffic stops, authorities said. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Nov 21, 2014 02:18
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Magres posted:That's some Super Troopers poo poo right there So you're saying he's a lovable goof?
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MariusLecter posted:So you're saying he's a lovable goof?  I wonder if it's as long as his face?
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