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rotor posted:buttbot is the only verifiably correct software ever written
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i think tbc's software that delivers rich multimedia pornography experiences is also very valuable in a modern day
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Nov 13, 2014 17:04
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Jimferd posted:ok i have a dumb question. if you're a computer janitor there's probably a million things you do that are repetitive and boring and you could automate them pretty easily if you broke em into their smallest parts
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Nov 13, 2014 17:12
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make sure you record how long those things took so it still takes the same amount of time as far as your supervisors know and then you have so much more free time for activities!
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Nov 13, 2014 17:13
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Activities being posting
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Nov 13, 2014 17:17
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tef posted:
yeah i do pretty much the same thing, except we actually install the OSes on the servers in the farm for customers quote:
yes please, anything you can think of that is not a calculator that is actually even vaguely useful irl. quote:basically you can write cool and real programs, but tbh, i only write software because i get paid to do it. ok so if i want to automate like the basic linux stuff we do w/ servers (iptables off, df -h, free, passwd root, etc) like a series of commands, remotely, as root, without accidentally rm -rf / etc, is this possible without creating chaos? quote:
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Nov 14, 2014 05:51
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Jimferd posted:yeah i do pretty much the same thing, except we actually install the OSes on the servers in the farm for customers ok so i am trying really hard to be nice here. seriously. i am taking a deep breath, several, before continuing your process is totally hosed. deeply. hosed. it is not just "behind the times." it is twenty years behind the times. the flintstones were doing a better job. the state of the art in 1994 was to do a jumpstart to automate OS install. you're not covering twenty years ago's base for operations best practice. when you think about any changes to your work going forward, your background goal needs to be fixing this problem. this is a tumor in your business. you can fix any number of other cancerous problems but this tumor will hang around to haunt you i'm not saying this has to be your first priority, just that it can never really leave your thoughts. this is a truly terrible thing, a sucking chest wound. attack things as you can, always bearing this fuckup in mind. Jimferd posted:ok so if i want to automate like the basic linux stuff we do w/ servers (iptables off, df -h, free, passwd root, etc) like a series of commands, remotely, as root, without accidentally rm -rf / etc, is this possible without creating chaos? yes. the key words to google are "configuration management." personally i am fond of chef and puppet. other partisans will appear for other products. they are wrong but that is not important. what matters is that you start thinking about infrastructure as code: all processes should be
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Nov 14, 2014 06:03
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ok so i am trying really hard to be nice here. seriously. i am taking a deep breath, several, before continuing whoah whaoh calm down i dont own this company, i just work there. i know its behind the times, we are basically a ticketing service that manages and fixes the servers. i am basically a lowly tech support guy who does reinstalls and sets up servers when needed. hence computer janitor.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:26
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Jimferd posted:whoah whaoh calm down i dont own this company, i just work there. i know its behind the times, we are basically a ticketing service that manages and fixes the servers. i am basically a lowly tech support guy who does reinstalls and sets up servers when needed. hence computer janitor. the good news is, having done this poo poo by hand, you will pick up chef (or w/e) like nothing. better still, you will come at it with the zeal of the converted because you will fully realise the bullshit it obviates. so gently caress python, go learn chef (or w/e).
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Nov 14, 2014 06:31
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:
also i am looking for something that doesnt require anything on the client machine, tbe colo / resell customers have ssh access and would notice and itd be a problem
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Nov 14, 2014 06:39
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Ansible only requires python on the remote as far as I know.
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Nov 14, 2014 06:59
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i can only speak for myself, but this doesn't bother me I never did crazy hours like that but one time I got busted leaving at 3:30PM and they told us we must work till 4PM at the earliest every day. suits me I said and got an extra couple of hours per week pay from then on
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Nov 14, 2014 08:55
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Maluco Marinero posted:Ansible only requires python on the remote as far as I know. and ssh, i think
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Nov 14, 2014 13:47
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Maluco Marinero posted:Ansible only requires python on the remote as far as I know. Fabric only requires SSH. Although Fabric is basically just an SSH/shell wrapper in Python, so the safety is off.
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Nov 14, 2014 14:04
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is there any tool online that shows the difference between 2 filse but in a nice way? by "nice" i mean maybe something similar to how jetbrains products shows the difference in the Local History tool
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Nov 14, 2014 15:11
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Valeyard posted:is there any tool online that shows the difference between 2 filse but in a nice way? by "nice" i mean maybe something similar to how jetbrains products shows the difference in the Local History tool beyond compare is the best diff tool i've ever used, and the new version even works on osx
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Nov 14, 2014 15:16
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Valeyard posted:is there any tool online that shows the difference between 2 filse but in a nice way? by "nice" i mean maybe something similar to how jetbrains products shows the difference in the Local History tool diff or gtfo
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Nov 14, 2014 15:35
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uncurable mlady posted:diff or gtfo diff is Not Good but prefect posted:beyond compare is the best diff tool i've ever used, and the new version even works on osx this on the other hand seems great, thank you
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Nov 14, 2014 15:47
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I haven't heard back yet but somehow I've ended up on some recruiter company mailing list and my cell phone has been ringing off the hook from them telling me about wonderful Python opportunities 3 states away
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Nov 14, 2014 20:14
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Luigi Thirty posted:I haven't heard back yet but somehow I've ended up on some recruiter company mailing list and my cell phone has been ringing off the hook from them telling me about wonderful Python opportunities 3 states away 3 states away still beats retail
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Nov 14, 2014 21:18
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Jimferd posted:also i am looking for something that doesnt require anything on the client machine, tbe colo / resell customers have ssh access and would notice and itd be a problem i like agent-based solutions a lot better, but there are alternatives e.g. ansible
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Nov 14, 2014 21:18
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:3 states away still beats retail i thought the yospos standing orders were "don't answer unsolicited recruiter phone messages"
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Nov 14, 2014 22:33
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Luigi Thirty posted:i thought the yospos standing orders were "don't answer unsolicited recruiter phone messages" your first job search is a very different animal you will probably never want to answer random inquiries ever again the rest of your career. but right now quantity >>>>> quality. just get your toe in the door
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Nov 14, 2014 22:39
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Yea the likelyhood of a successful job application jumps orders of magnitude when you get the first item on your resume
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Nov 14, 2014 22:41
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yeah luigi I'm also trying to find that first job. recruiters are p poo poo but still useful. that said both my in person interviews came from friend referrals so maybe they are just total poo poo idk
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Nov 15, 2014 00:45
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Papes posted:yeah luigi I'm also trying to find that first job. recruiters are p poo poo but still useful. that said both my in person interviews came from friend referrals so maybe they are just total poo poo idk so far i've gotten one interview from a recruiter, one the next day from a craigslist posting, and a phone interview from another posting, none of which actually resulted in flat "we don't like your skills, sorry" rejections but weaselly "oh we've rescinded the position due to budget constraints" rejections and apparently it's a remote position three states away  my friend tried to get me an interview with a web company in texas but i looked them up on glassdoor and they're a cult so Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Nov 15, 2014 |
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Nov 15, 2014 00:49
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i haven't met a cult i didn't like
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Nov 15, 2014 00:54
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Luigi Thirty posted:so far i've gotten one interview from a recruiter, one the next day from a craigslist posting, and a phone interview from another posting, none of which actually resulted in flat "we don't like your skills, sorry" rejections but weaselly "oh we've rescinded the position due to budget constraints" rejections is it just people who really like tdd or something or do you mean literally a cult? 
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Nov 15, 2014 00:57
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Luigi Thirty posted:a cult
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Nov 15, 2014 01:02
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Symbolic Butt posted:is it just people who really like tdd or something or do you mean literally a cult? according to glassdoor the company was bought by randroids a couple years ago and actively being run into the ground with insane employee turnover
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Nov 15, 2014 01:06
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prefect posted:and ssh, i think that's like saying a software package requires electricity
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Nov 15, 2014 01:28
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if you told me to janitor a computer without ssh i just wouldnt even know where to start. i would probably reach into my highschool cargo jorts and pull out a 2gb usb key cuz that's the only way things are getting done
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Nov 15, 2014 01:30
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i got my current job from a recruiter. but i was in a similar situation of trying to get a foot in the door; this is my first sw engineering job and i don't have a formal background in CS. also i reached out to recruiters, it wasn't unsolicited or anything.
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Nov 15, 2014 01:40
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Luigi Thirty posted:according to glassdoor the company was bought by randroids a couple years ago and actively being run into the ground with insane employee turnover oh, sears
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Nov 15, 2014 02:07
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i have no idea how i got my current job. everyone there is really smart and the atmosphere is laid back. the code base i kind of academic i think in that it's a massive clusterfuck and the product is meh but wow pretty grateful for where i work the guy who grilled me incredibly hard during my interview 5 hour interview has been so insanely supportive it's unreal. as have all the other senior devs
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Nov 15, 2014 02:17
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its almost like college was made to gently caress with you
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Nov 15, 2014 03:20
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BONGHITZ posted:its almost like college was made to gently caress with you i wouldn't know!
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Nov 15, 2014 03:22
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i have no idea how i got my current job. everyone there is really smart and the atmosphere is laid back. yeah same. the work experience I'm getting here is so much better than at my last job too, and way more transferable.
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Nov 15, 2014 03:48
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Luigi Thirty posted:i thought the yospos standing orders were "don't answer unsolicited recruiter phone messages" two of the best jobs I has were from unsolicited recruiter spam. recruiters can be crap though so dont get your hopes up and don't kill yourself to make the interview. If it's 3 states away, fine, they can fly you out if they're so goddamn interested.
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DimpledChad posted:i got my current job from a recruiter. but i was in a similar situation of trying to get a foot in the door; this is my first sw engineering job and i don't have a formal background in CS. also i reached out to recruiters, it wasn't unsolicited or anything. What does cs have go do with engineering??
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