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You can't really make a religious organization that endorses forced captivity and enslavement as morally grey, much less the good side.
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Without the Templars being over-controlling dicks there'd only be an occasional abomination that wouldn't be that big a deal. Cross-Section posted:The future viscount of Kirkwall, everybody.  I wonder if on the first day of release the Keep will get unintentionally ddos'd by everyone trying to access it and export games. Drifter fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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A. Beaverhausen posted:You can't really make a religious organization that endorses forced captivity and enslavement as morally grey, much less the good side. The Witch Hunters in Warhammer Fantasy and 40k do a pretty good job of being morally grey.  And the Fade is for the most part the Warp by any other name.
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Nov 16, 2014 03:52
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A. Beaverhausen posted:You can't really make a religious organization that endorses forced captivity and enslavement as morally grey, much less the good side. You could make them sympathetic as a necessary evil trying to make the best of a bad situation while genuinely caring about everyone, but that was beyond DAII.
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Nov 16, 2014 03:52
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Drifter posted:You're not asking the impossible but you've already gotten an answer. Maybe this is clearer than I was? This does help thank you sorry I've been a pain in the rear end.
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Nov 16, 2014 03:53
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Geostomp posted:You could make them sympathetic as a necessary evil trying to make the best of a bad situation while genuinely caring about everyone, but that was beyond DAII. By the end I wanted to punch nearly everyone and everything in the throat. I hosed off outta there with my elf babe on arm and my sister on the other. I like to think we started a rock band afterwards.
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Nov 16, 2014 03:54
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^^^ - I know you tried to make three-way babies, you sicko.Flopsy posted:This does help thank you sorry I've been a pain in the rear end. You've not been a pain in the rear end. I just may not have been as clear as I could have.
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Nov 16, 2014 03:55
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Geostomp posted:You could make them sympathetic as a necessary evil trying to make the best of a bad situation while genuinely caring about everyone, but that was beyond DAII. thats how it was in da:o so its weird how they made everyone super evil all the time in da2
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Nov 16, 2014 03:56
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Drifter posted:^^^ - I know you tried to make three-way babies, you sicko. Eh, I played the gayest Hawke ever and Fenris was my bum buddy. Honestly didn't give a poo poo about either side at the end I just wanted to get my remaining friends and family out of that shithole and split. If someone told me my sister was about to slaughtered by Ilsa the she-wolf in plate armor I wouldn't sit by with that poo poo.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:00
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Flopsy posted:By the end I wanted to punch nearly everyone and everything in the throat. Except your husbando4lyfe Anders, right?
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Roobanguy posted:thats how it was in da:o so its weird how they made everyone super evil all the time in da2 Because of a terribly misguided attempt to make Templars more sympathetic than people forced into slavery by an accident of birth. That and executive mandates for extra bosses overriding any story logic.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:02
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Geostomp posted:Because of a terribly misguided attempt to make Templars more sympathetic than people forced into slavery by an accident of birth. That and executive mandates for extra bosses overriding any story logic. Say what you want about anything else, but it was pretty cool to have statues come to life as a boss fight. THe fight itself was kinda lame, but the idea was cool.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:03
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Archimago posted:Except your husbando4lyfe Anders, right? He creeped the poo poo out of me so no. Actually avoided him as much as I could for most of the game.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:06
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Flopsy posted:He creeped the poo poo out of me so no. Actually avoided him as much as I could for most of the game. I kept him around because I needed one mage in my party and it was not going to be that annoying elf.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:12
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Flopsy posted:Eh, I played the gayest Hawke ever and Fenris was my bum buddy. Honestly didn't give a poo poo about either side at the end I just wanted to get my remaining friends and family out of that shithole and split. Ah, the Nier reason 
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Flopsy posted:He creeped the poo poo out of me so no. Actually avoided him as much as I could for most of the game. Maybe if you weren't bigoted against gays and/or mages you could see Anders for the misunderstood visionary he is. I highly recommend you check your privilege for a few minutes and give this delightfully informative thesis a good read.
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Drifter posted:She would have theoretically been stilled, yes? Sounds like fun. Do the templars have to learn the name of every
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The problem with trying to make the Templar position seem reasonable is that the player is a super murderhobo who can kill mages with no problem. The templars and authorities like them are not going to make much sense to someone from that perspective.
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I'm hoping the tarot deck won't be that badly priced on ebay. I don't usually get preorder bonuses off of it so 
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Archimago posted:Maybe if you weren't bigoted against gays and/or mages you could see Anders for the misunderstood visionary he is. See it's not the gay nor the mage bits I have a problem with it's the ah how do I put it...raging douchiness he exudes from every pore.That and he reminds me of a dude who had a crush on me and sexually harassed me in collage. So there's that too.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:22
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I know they're playing low level characters in those streams, but drat does MP seem like a slog.
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Flopsy posted:See it's not the gay nor the mage bits I have a problem with it's the ah how do I put it...raging douchiness he exudes from every pore.That and he reminds me of a dude who had a crush on me and sexually harassed me in collage. So there's that too. You should tweet that @DavidGaider so he knows his life's mission was accomplished.
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Flopsy posted:See it's not the gay nor the mage bits I have a problem with it's the ah how do I put it...raging douchiness he exudes from every pore.That and he reminds me of a dude who had a crush on me and sexually harassed me in collage. So there's that too. Yeah that's pretty much what Anders is. That guy that lacks any sort of self-awareness and has to be walked through the fact that his character is garbage.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:24
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Anders, Misunderstood Genius or Brilliant Visionary???
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Origins was by far better, but the writing there was also iffy. That said, it was a drat masterpiece compared to DA2. I also concur on the throat-punching (in my case 2-handed sword stabbing). Pretty much everybody was terrible. I hated the templars, I disliked the mages, just wanted the drat city leveled. Oh, and I still don't get that there was no option to just kill off the uncle within an hour of game's start. Edit: Bandit waves at night were also annoying, pointlessly annoying. Yeah, the 4 murderous looking individuals and a big rear end dog certainly look like easy targets.
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Roobanguy posted:thats how it was in da:o so its weird how they made everyone super evil all the time in da2 If I remember right DAII explains this away with Kirkwall being used as a port for new Tevinter slaves who were tortured by mages until they were broken,making it filled with the remains of lifetimes of suffering and also crazy-rear end magic. Or something like that anyway.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:25
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If I was considering PC what would be the ideal way to buy it? CD retail seems like it would be stupid and require the disk to play, but I'm not sure the Origin store won't gently caress up if I try to get it straight from them.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:27
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So, if I'm reading this correctly - Qunari, Elves and Dwarves each get defense bonuses against one type of attack, and Humans... get an extra skill point? Like, they end up with one more ability then other characters? Considering that abilities are also how you increase your stats, that seems a wee bit overpowered.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:29
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Human is truly the master race suck it elves.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:30
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I'm guessing your armor has a larger effect on stats than skills (the stat increase are tied mostly to passives). But even having one more skill than other races makes the eventual agony of choosing skills easier.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:So, if I'm reading this correctly - Qunari, Elves and Dwarves each get defense bonuses against one type of attack, and Humans... get an extra skill point? Like, they end up with one more ability then other characters? Considering that abilities are also how you increase your stats, that seems a wee bit overpowered. If it's like the other DAs then it'll be really useful early on but slowly taper off until by endgame it's useless because you already have more skill points then you really need. Since in DA:I you can't chug potions nonstop and thus have to manage your skills better, having an extra point in some random tree won't matter in comparison to the trees you've already filled. Extra % defense never stops being useful though, especially that 25% magic d on dwarves. In past DAs magic was almost always what killed me fastest, so that's quite a perk.
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Roobanguy posted:Anders, Misunderstood Genius or Brilliant Visionary??? Or the the guy who smells your hair and stares at your rear end when he thinks you're not looking whilst furiously penning a manifesto.
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Flopsy posted:Or the the guy who smells your hair and stares at your rear end when he thinks you're not looking whilst furiously penning a manifesto. Anders, Misunderstood Genius or Brilliant Visionary??????????????????? no trolling pls.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:So, if I'm reading this correctly - Qunari, Elves and Dwarves each get defense bonuses against one type of attack, and Humans... get an extra skill point? Like, they end up with one more ability then other characters? Considering that abilities are also how you increase your stats, that seems a wee bit overpowered. You can also find consumables that give free skill points I think.
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Crabtree posted:If I was considering PC what would be the ideal way to buy it? CD retail seems like it would be stupid and require the disk to play, but I'm not sure the Origin store won't gently caress up if I try to get it straight from them.
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Crabtree posted:If I was considering PC what would be the ideal way to buy it? CD retail seems like it would be stupid and require the disk to play, but I'm not sure the Origin store won't gently caress up if I try to get it straight from them. There's no difference. The retail version will save you from having to download most of the game but there's no disc check. I don't think any pc game has used a disc check in years.
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:If I remember right DAII explains this away with Kirkwall being used as a port for new Tevinter slaves who were tortured by mages until they were broken,making it filled with the remains of lifetimes of suffering and also crazy-rear end magic. Or something like that anyway. Close. There's a powerful blood magic engine under the city that weakens the Veil in Kirkwall and makes it a lightning rod for powerful demons. Tens of thousands of Tevinter slaves were sacrificed to fuel it, and it remains operational in modern times.
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Cythereal posted:Close. There's a powerful blood magic engine under the city that weakens the Veil in Kirkwall and makes it a lightning rod for powerful demons. Tens of thousands of Tevinter slaves were sacrificed to fuel it, and it remains operational in modern times. You never get to see said machine though, right?
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A. Beaverhausen posted:You never get to see said machine though, right? Nope, you only find out about it from codex entries.
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