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Nov 11, 2014 23:41
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Distorted Kiwi posted:Reposting this from the PYF Movie Posters thread, Kirk Cameron is set to make you hate the holiday season! And while commenting on the commercialization of Christmas, Kirk Cameron will also try to make a buck off of you.
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Nov 11, 2014 23:48
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Uncle Wemus posted:How come evangelicals hate the UN? There's a certain strain of evangelical (not all, but those that believe this make the news and those that don't... don't) that believes that a "one world order" is foretold in the book of Revelation as a necessary precursor to the end times and have latched onto the UN as that herald of apocalypse, and therefore oppose it. Same reason they oppose anything that smacks of a national ID system or anything like that: the mark of the Beast. It's complete batshit nonsense, and I say this as a Protestant Christian.
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Nov 11, 2014 23:50
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Uncle Wemus posted:How come evangelicals hate the UN? Stops them from violating the rights of women, muslims, children, workers, and gays. Also probably for the same reason they love Israel: end-times prophecy.
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Nov 11, 2014 23:53
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Cythereal posted:There's a certain strain of evangelical (not all, but those that believe this make the news and those that don't... don't) that believes that a "one world order" is foretold in the book of Revelation as a necessary precursor to the end times and have latched onto the UN as that herald of apocalypse, and therefore oppose it. Same reason they oppose anything that smacks of a national ID system or anything like that: the mark of the Beast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lknW2mzXMMY
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Nov 11, 2014 23:55
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Star Man posted:And while commenting on the commercialization of Christmas, Kirk Cameron will also try to make a buck off of you. What confuses me about this trailer is that Cameron's friend has a legitimate point about the commercialisation of Christmas diluting its true meaning, but he's apparently completely in the wrong. The whole point of the film seems to be that Christmas is awesome just the way it is and you shouldn't ruin it by criticising its capitalist elements. Which is fair enough, I guess, but doesn't strike me as very Christian.
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Nov 11, 2014 23:59
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Cythereal posted:There's a certain strain of evangelical (not all, but those that believe this make the news and those that don't... don't) that believes that a "one world order" is foretold in the book of Revelation as a necessary precursor to the end times and have latched onto the UN as that herald of apocalypse, and therefore oppose it. Same reason they oppose anything that smacks of a national ID system or anything like that: the mark of the Beast.
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Nov 12, 2014 00:01
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Forgall posted:Don't they want apocalypse to happen? Yeah, but they still feel like the UN is the 'bad guys' and by opposing them, they're on Gods side. edit; The part where the bad guys inevitably win and rule for a while also kinda muddies the water a little.
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Nov 12, 2014 00:04
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Cythereal posted:There's a certain strain of evangelical (not all, but those that believe this make the news and those that don't... don't) that believes that a "one world order" is foretold in the book of Revelation as a necessary precursor to the end times and have latched onto the UN as that herald of apocalypse, and therefore oppose it. Same reason they oppose anything that smacks of a national ID system or anything like that: the mark of the Beast. Wemus, you'll want to have a look at Revelation 13 and 17-18 in particular but there's a few other areas of the Bible too. Basically the UN is the beast of Revelation, or it's also the new Babylon. There's a deep rabbit hole that can be dove into if you're interested. Forgall posted:Don't they want apocalypse to happen? Revelation 14 posted:9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”
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Nov 12, 2014 00:08
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I don't think I've ever heard of anything more cynical than "a Christmas movie telling Christians that all the awfully un-Christian commercialized aspects of Christmas that they partake in every year are Jesus-approved." It's literally the kind of thing that evangelicals claim Satan is constantly doing.
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Nov 12, 2014 00:53
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Mordiceius posted:Why didn't they use Elvis' name? Why did they come up with some other bullshit name? Also, 3 days until Saving christmas! Am I the only one masochistic enough to pay money to watch it?
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Nov 12, 2014 01:02
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ChickenMedium posted:I don't think I've ever heard of anything more cynical than "a Christmas movie telling Christians that all the awfully un-Christian commercialized aspects of Christmas that they partake in every year are Jesus-approved." It's literally the kind of thing that evangelicals claim Satan is constantly doing.
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Nov 12, 2014 01:12
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The ancestors of your evangelical churches didn't start celebrating Christmas until relatively recently precisely because of its rather ambiguous relation to Jesus. Who's trying to hijack whose holiday?
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Nov 12, 2014 05:54
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Is there a Christian movie about Halloween? I want to see a Christian movie about keeping Halloween Christian.
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Nov 12, 2014 10:29
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Grendels Dad posted:Is there a Christian movie about Halloween? I want to see a Christian movie about keeping Halloween Christian. I distinctly remember hearing a guy on Christian radio pray for the sidewalks to ice over on Halloween when I was a kid, so I'm guessing there's not a bunch of pro-Halloween Christians. Still, in a few years maybe the tradition of trunk or treat in church parking lots will be some kind of notable Christian experience.
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Nov 12, 2014 16:18
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jodai posted:I distinctly remember hearing a guy on Christian radio pray for the sidewalks to ice over on Halloween when I was a kid, so I'm guessing there's not a bunch of pro-Halloween Christians. Still, in a few years maybe the tradition of trunk or treat in church parking lots will be some kind of notable Christian experience. Yeah, ultra-conservative christians loving hate halloween. If I had to guess it's probably because it has no real links to Christian tradition and is very "pagan" compared to other holidays celebrated in the states.
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Nov 12, 2014 18:07
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Improbable Lobster posted:Yeah, ultra-conservative christians loving hate halloween. If I had to guess it's probably because it has no real links to Christian tradition and is very "pagan" compared to other holidays celebrated in the states. They still love wearing costumes and giving out candy, they just do it on a different day and at church so it magically loses all of its Satan powers. It's kind of like how they say that Santa Claus is Christian because he's totally St. Nicholas even though his appearance and customs are all from Pagan celebrations that predate St. Nicholas' birth.
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Nov 12, 2014 19:15
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Christians invented Halloween, like they did with Easter and Christmas and all that poo poo. It's some garbage about souls being saved, but with pagan local flavor where people have fun but suddenly the local gods are deadly loving demons out for your soul instead of magical people who just like to drink and fight and have sex.
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Nov 12, 2014 19:56
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Grendels Dad posted:Is there a Christian movie about Halloween? I want to see a Christian movie about keeping Halloween Christian. Have you seen the WNUF Halloween Special?
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Nov 12, 2014 21:17
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...of SCIENCE! posted:They still love wearing costumes and giving out candy, they just do it on a different day and at church so it magically loses all of its Satan powers. It's kind of like how they say that Santa Claus is Christian because he's totally St. Nicholas even though his appearance and customs are all from Pagan celebrations that predate St. Nicholas' birth.
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Nov 12, 2014 21:57
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Casimir Radon posted:My grandma's church stopped calling their thing a "Halloween Alternative" and call it Fall Fest now. It's still designed to keep the church kids off the streets from 5-10PM on Halloween lest they go out and have some fun, but they dialed back the culture war a little bit. They still hate Santa though. This is wide-spread now. "Fall Festival" is the go-to term for a lot of churches these days.
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Nov 13, 2014 16:13
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It's pretty amusing that these people are up in arms about the re-branding of a holiday just to turn around and do the same to another one, just because the commercialization of that one is a little too close to the holiday's pagan roots.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:48
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Grendels Dad posted:It's pretty amusing that these people are up in arms about the re-branding of a holiday just to turn around and do the same to another one, just because the commercialization of that one is a little too close to the holiday's pagan roots. And actually making it sound more pagan. Like if they renamed "Christmas" into "Winter Solstice Festival" 
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Nov 14, 2014 10:07
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They should just insist on calling it All Saints' Day and lecture kids about the lives of dead martyrs from the late Roman era
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Nov 14, 2014 13:02
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Just send the kids out trick-or-treating without costumes and have them drop off Chick tracts at every house.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:17
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icantfindaname posted:They should just insist on calling it All Saints' Day and lecture kids about the lives of dead martyrs from the late Roman era Too much like Popeism for these usually evangelical churches.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:33
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rakovsky maybe posted:Too much like Popeism for these usually evangelical churches. How about having parties that are lit by burning Roman Catholics?
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Nov 14, 2014 21:13
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bobkatt013 posted:How about having parties that are lit by burning Roman Catholics? This isn't Northern Ireland. 
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Nov 15, 2014 03:29
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Imagine trick-or-treating and you end up at a Mormon missionary's or Gideon's house. They just dump a Book of Mormon or one of those tiny copies of the New Testament in your bag and send you off.
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Nov 15, 2014 04:21
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Young Freud posted:This isn't Northern Ireland. It happened on Vatican Hill.
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Nov 15, 2014 07:35
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Uncle Wemus posted:How come evangelicals hate the UN? There's a lot of crossover between evangelicals and the John Birch Society, which is a far right group against globalization and such.
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Nov 15, 2014 22:16
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I have a few friends in my church who legitimately hate Halloween, because they think it makes light of serious things (--> demons). But churches can easily do Halloween festivals; just look back at how the Church used to do it. The issue is that a lot of these churches are the kind of Protestant that hate just about any pre-Puritan traditions. (It all goes back to Puritans.) Do you guys know of any good Christian films about Advent/Christmas that aren't a retelling of the Nativity?
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Nov 15, 2014 23:56
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Uncle Wemus posted:How come evangelicals hate the UN? Because the UN negotiates with Bad People instead of bombing and torturing them, and is therefore and unacceptable left wing influence on American foreign policy AGirlWonder posted:I have a few friends in my church who legitimately hate Halloween, because they think it makes light of serious things (--> demons). But churches can easily do Halloween festivals; just look back at how the Church used to do it. The issue is that a lot of these churches are the kind of Protestant that hate just about any pre-Puritan traditions. Remember the Puritans literally banned Christmas for being a papist, neo-pagan conspiracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_controversy#Puritan_era quote:In Colonial America, the Puritans of New England disapproved of Christmas, and celebration was outlawed in Boston from 1659 to 1681.[23][24] The ban by the Pilgrims was revoked by English governor Edmund Andros, however it was not until the mid-19th century that celebrating Christmas became fashionable in the Boston region.[25] By the Declaration of Independence in 1776, it was not widely celebrated in the US.[24] icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Nov 16, 2014 00:40
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No, that's not why, it's because UN is One World Government.
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Nov 16, 2014 00:42
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It is here Old Fashioned,the christian movie that is being released on valentines day as a response to 50 Shades of Gray Now comes the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFO-RmMv6T8 quote:Clearly, we're picking a fight with Fifty Shades. We're not only picking a fight, we're picking a fight with the schoolground bully, likely to get our nose busted in two. … Love and romance are created by God and designed to lead to marriage and physical intimacy. … I find it impossible to not believe that, deep down, we don't want to celebrate something more than Fifty Shades."
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Nov 16, 2014 04:02
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:It is here It would be great if this is actually secretly about the Christian Discipline movement.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:22
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Jack Gladney posted:It would be great if this is actually secretly about the Christian Discipline movement. There needs to be a documentary on that http://www.christiandomesticdiscipline.com/home.html quote:Domestic Discipline (DD) marriage is one in which one partner is given authority over the other, and has the means to back up that authority, usually by spanking. The application and practise of DD in each marriage is as unique as the individuals who make up that marriage. There is no "One Ring of Power" in the Domestic Discipline world, to which all DD couples must bow; no singular path to "true DD enlightenment". What works well for one DD couple may not be a good fit for another marriage. Therefore, you may see many different suggestions espoused on this site and elsewhere. quote:There is a world of difference between the thought of a spanking and the real thing. I used to think that I thought of it as sexually arousing... until I actually had one. Personally, I find there is nothing arousing about a real spanking. I don't enjoy it. I don't want sex for quite some time afterwards. quote:A fearful wife may begin crying or pleading and find it difficult to remain still. Reassure her. of your intent and love (yes this will hurt, that is why it is a punishment) then instruct her to be still. Remind her that she is not in control of this discipline. You should continue the lashing through her tears and pleas for you to stop, until you are certain the message was received. This will insure her remorse and therefore stop the undesirable behavior. Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Nov 16, 2014 04:23
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Jack Gladney posted:It would be great if this is actually secretly about the Christian Discipline movement. Me too. If it's not, why "respond" to 50 Shades except to say that spanking can be wholesome?
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Nov 16, 2014 14:00
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Me too. If it's not, why "respond" to 50 Shades except to say that spanking can be wholesome? The filmmakers are nominally Christian, 50 Shades is not, and they need publicity. It's like someone making that "come at me bro" gesture to try to start a fight with a dog.
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Nov 16, 2014 14:32
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Me too. If it's not, why "respond" to 50 Shades except to say that spanking can be wholesome? I'm still a little sad that King of the Hill didn't last long enough to do an episode about it. I can just see it now: Hank and Peggy meet a nice couple at church and become friends. Then they get invited over for bible study after the husband misunderstands Hank's enthusiasm for "discipline" (he of course means the protestant work ethic necessary to repair his riding lawnmower), and right at the first act break they walk into the living room, see the couple decked out in Christian bondage gear and cut to commercial right as Hank lets out the first "bwaugh!"
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Nov 16, 2014 14:49
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