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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Fulchrum posted:

Believe me, the article itself is worse.

Well I kind of figured he'd use the "Sell your cloak and buy a sword" verse, yeah, that's the one verse that people who don't understand what Jesus was saying try to use as evidence that Jesus wants you to buy all the guns. This comment, though:

quote:

If God preferred that his children refrain from buying, selling, owning, or transferring weapons, why is there not one verse in the entire canon of Christian scripture setting out such counsel?

Well, I have to give him credit for that one. Jesus did definitely oppose using weapons when he admonished Peter after striking a priest with the sword, and said he who lives by the sword will die by the sword, but he didn't say anything about buying, selling, owning, or transferring them. Just using them. I guess that makes the author of that article technically correct.

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MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

You'd think there would be a ton of Roman troops waiting in the wings with rifles or machine guns ready to mow him down if they were living in the age of guns.

That would be ridiculous.

Sir Rolo
Oct 16, 2012

MariusLecter posted:

That would be ridiculous.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Who's ready for their second helping?

Liberal Logic 101! - Revenge of the Fallen and Can't Get Up!



How DARE Democrats do things the public unanimously supports when told about them objectively and without us being allowed to poison the idea?!



Much like how you would hire an arsonist to put out your fires.



How dare he call voters stupid? Now back to calling anyone who ever voptes in their self interest uninformed and too stupid to vote.



Research? I think you mean NEFARIOUS PLOT TO PERSECUTE CHRISTIANS!



People pointing out that they've been systemically disadvantaged and that I am blind to my own privilidge is so unfaaaair - a person who thinks thats an argument.




\And of course you've made sure to demand that ever single christian judge recuse themselves from these cases, right?



\Obama: I represent the American people, and will act without congressional approval if I have to
Lincoln: I represent the American people, and will act without congressional approval if I have to.
Yeah, Lincoln, that sure is telling Obama. The gently caress?



Like for instance, the Muslim call to prayer. I'm sure Conservatives are all for that prayer at all times.



'Pissed off MRA shitheads want to ban feminism. Clearly, this shows how bad Feminism is'



Yes, because anything that donates to charity automatically makes up for all other forms of shitheadery. Which is why the KKK is a positive group since they donate to charity.



Stop forcing cultural values upon women, you say? But what about all these women we've forced cultural values upon? aha, didn't think of that, did you?



Clarifying a law? Making it more thorough? Clearly this is evil. Its not like thiose things must be added to stop Republican shitheels from deliberately misinterpretting a law.



Republicans being intolerant and censoring free speech. Clearly this is a story that will help us and make us look good - A Republican.



\Yeah, you know, that bit about how corpses have the right to bear arms?



Correct, most women who use planned parenthood are living in poverty and can't afford to have a baby. Republicans could fix this by increasing welfare payment to single mothers. Or they could take the path that would allow them to hurt women and not stop abortions.



You say that its cause Republicans are racist? Oh-ho, but the exit polls show that its cause Republicans are racist! What do you say now?



There is no gently caress you big enough. And yeah, men totally have no self esteem issues now, thats why there totally isn't a huge pity party circle jerk straight white men have organised for themselves.



Oh no. The things I worried about came true in the most utterly inconsequential ways! Thats the worst kind!



Wow. Seriously? Usually they'll at least attribute this to an African American to mask how racist they are. Here its just straight up quoting a white old racist man.

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

I remember once reading "Female privilege is not being laughed at if you shave your pubes."

That's...an incredibly weird and petty thing to single out :psyduck:

Male privilege is not being yelled at if you don't shave your pubes.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Fulchrum posted:



Oh no. The things I worried about came true in the most utterly inconsequential ways! Thats the worst kind!

Being denied health care coverage: something that totally never happened to anyone before Obamacare.

Also blue guy is still completely correct in panel one despite this being a strawman comic. The police in the final panel did not come to confiscate red guy's guns. They came for the guns of his deceased grandparents.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Fulchrum posted:



Correct, most women who use planned parenthood are living in poverty and can't afford to have a baby. Republicans could fix this by increasing welfare payment to single mothers. Or they could take the path that would allow them to hurt women and not stop abortions.

"I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

I think it's unsurprising that a catholic who thinks suffering is good for the soul would be against aborting unwanted children, they should also be the last person you want to listen to.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Fulchrum posted:



Much like how you would hire an arsonist to put out your fires.

Ironically an arsonist can be helpful in preventing certain kinds of fires - either through controlled burns (which keep underbrush and other material from building to dangerous levels) or simply identifying targets and paths of possible burns.

I agree with your sentiment, Fulchrum - our entire political system (including lobbyists and corporate cronies) needs occasional purging by fire. Literal fire.

Fulchrum posted:



\Obama: I represent the American people, and will act without congressional approval if I have to
Lincoln: I represent the American people, and will act without congressional approval if I have to.
Yeah, Lincoln, that sure is telling Obama. The gently caress?

You have to understand, their position isn't based on logic, just on their hatred for Obama.

Fulchrum posted:



\Yeah, you know, that bit about how corpses have the right to bear arms?

I would actually be interested in the legal justification the police are operating under in this case, as 4th Amendment protections should apply to the property - after death it would belong to someone in accordance with the previous owner's will and that person should have rights which may be violated in this instance.

It's no different than the police seizing your Grandpa's old Bel Air after he passes on.

Edit: I searched around a bit, there is a lot of 'Faux Newz' noise clouding the issue, but apparently under New York law after someone with a pistol permit dies the estate/family has 15 days to dispose (destroy, sell or transport out of state I'd assume) of the permitted firearms OR turn them over to police for 'safe-keeping' for two years. (Where I naturally assume the police will conspire to steal them.) Naturally this brings up the central problem of police in that they negatively affect the economically disadvantaged who may not have savvy lawyers to help them protect their rights and property in times of crisis, and apparently according to scattered, not-very-reliable reports the cops like to show up sans warrant and just seize all the guns on the property (naturally glossing over or failing to mention the timelines or rights of the people under this law, thin as they are) while everyone is still in the ashes-and-sackcloth phase.

Apparently legal challenges to these provisions are brewing.

Fulchrum posted:



Correct, most women who use planned parenthood are living in poverty and can't afford to have a baby. Republicans could fix this by increasing welfare payment to single mothers. Or they could take the path that would allow them to hurt women and not stop abortions.

Its never been about abortions, or babies, but about controlling women. Also hurting them.

Zemyla posted:

Male privilege is not being yelled at if you don't shave your pubes.

I don't know about you but that happened to me once....and actually I'd grumble at somebody else about it too.

LeJackal fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Nov 15, 2014

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

MShadowy posted:

Yeah, sadly, this. Actually, a couple of them are more than slightly misogynistic; I'm not really sure how to deal with it.

It's also slightly disturbing that, of everyone I know, I seem to be the only one who thinks that a person suddenly and without prompting ranting about feminists is in some way problematic. Like seriously, virutally every time one of these guys is over they'll turn a conversation that is at most tangentially related into a rant about "loving feminists." I just wish I knew how to respond to that nonsense; every time it comes up it's so far out of left field that I'm caught flatfooted.

Also worried that it might actually be swaying everyone else, despite the fact unprompted ranting tends to make a person look very slightly seriously out of their loving gourd. :smith:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

don't rant; ask pointed questions about why they have those opinions, going for logical consistency, "Why do you think women often cross the street when walking alone at night when they see a strange man? Why do you think women are often gain custody of children in divorce? Is it because the duty of child care often defaults to women? Are you sure that there are no media which depict men positively?"

Just ask questions and you'll back them into a corner. They'll probably initially get pissed because they feel trapped, but that when the thinking starts.

PUGGERNAUT
Nov 14, 2013

I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD

Zemyla posted:

Male privilege is not being yelled at if you don't shave your pubes.

That list was dumb as hell. I love how half of the entries are obviously a result of him being overly aggressive and frightening to the women he tries to pick up. If every girl rejects your advances because you're "creepy", you may need to take a look at how you're talking to them.

"Female privilege is getting my feelings hurt when a SLUTWHORE friendzones me"

Someone post that Matt Bors "I hope she didn't give me a fake number"/"I hope he doesn't murder me" comic.

PUGGERNAUT fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 15, 2014

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

rkajdi posted:

This is exactly what I'm getting at. A child should be a decent thing to have, but in the current climate you're insane to plan one unless you're a 1%er. Worst part is that as I stated earlier, what is the net result if you dodge through everything and get the kid to adulthood without killing yourself in the process? The labor market is going to become more slack as time goes on, not less. Not only does that say on average that your kid will be a bad place, him existing makes the labor situation worse for everyone else, since that's one more person who needs a job to survive, while also providing the labor slack that allows employers to keep wages criminally low.

Where are you living that things are this bad? It's not 2010 anymore, things have been looking up economically for a while now. Plenty of my middle-class friends have been starting their families and having first or second kids.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.
Some of those "female privilege" things would be more accurate with an addendum along the lines of, "Unless of course the police totally ignore you, which they often do."

Also, it's not like dudes don't laugh at prison rape jokes. But MRAs and their ilk don't seem to actually give a poo poo about the treatment of men in prison.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Guilty Spork posted:

Some of those "female privilege" things would be more accurate with an addendum along the lines of, "Unless of course the police totally ignore you, which they often do."

Also, it's not like dudes don't laugh at prison rape jokes. But MRAs and their ilk don't seem to actually give a poo poo about the treatment of men in prison.

Much like they don't actually care about selective service registration since the draft will never again be instituted in our lifetimes.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

LeJackal posted:

Ironically an arsonist can be helpful in preventing certain kinds of fires - either through controlled burns (which keep underbrush and other material from building to dangerous levels) or simply identifying targets and paths of possible burns.

That isn't arson though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Guilty Spork posted:

Also, it's not like dudes don't laugh at prison rape jokes. But MRAs and their ilk don't seem to actually give a poo poo about the treatment of men in prison.
Yeah, men are legitimately more likely to end up in prison in the first place, disproportionately so to the rate at which they commit crimes. Mostly this seems to be due to smaller disparities in the rates of arrest, charges, prosecutions, guilty verdicts, and custodial sentences all adding up.

This is something that there is a feminist solution to: end the stereotypes that women lack the agency to commit crimes and that men uniquely have the ability to be violent brutes or criminal schemers.

It is also something that there is a leftist solution to: prison reform, legal reform, and an end to poverty and discriminatory policing against poor communities and men of color.

MRAs as a whole don't seem to give a poo poo though, unless the man is arrested for domestic violence or rape, in which case they are very quick to come out with cries of "what about the false reports".

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/11/04/an-amazing-supermarket-incident-in-canada-muslim-woman-is-put-right-in-her-place/

I always thought the "everyone stood up and clapped" thing was just funny, not that there were actual stories with it.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Who What Now posted:

Much like they don't actually care about selective service registration since the draft will never again be instituted in our lifetimes.

Or rather, if the situation is dire enough that the draft is reinstated, it is dire enough to draft women as well.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Faustian Bargain posted:

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/11/04/an-amazing-supermarket-incident-in-canada-muslim-woman-is-put-right-in-her-place/

I always thought the "everyone stood up and clapped" thing was just funny, not that there were actual stories with it.

:canada:

this loving country.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Faustian Bargain posted:

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/11/04/an-amazing-supermarket-incident-in-canada-muslim-woman-is-put-right-in-her-place/

I always thought the "everyone stood up and clapped" thing was just funny, not that there were actual stories with it.
It's very common in political email forwards. You have to demonstrate that everyone except for the strawman just gets it and supports the reader's/author's perspective.

This goes back to Plato, who would often end his Socrates fanfiction with "And then everyone stood up and clapped."

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

peter banana posted:

:canada:

this loving country.

That article posted:

Many claim this happened, some claim it was a different country, others claim it was fabricated altogether…either way, the moral of this story is absolutely priceless considering what is going on in so many western countries right now!

Translation: we want to maintain the facade of being a news site while posting clickbait chainmail and calling it content.

Obsolete
Jun 1, 2000

I got this actual, crazy forwarded email from an older guy that sits on the board for a club I'm in.

quote:

Thought you might want to consider getting on board early.

A German Engineer just started his own business in Afghanistan. He's making land mines that look like prayer mats.

It's doing well!
He says prophets are going through the roof.

That's all it is. It's just some lovely "lol Muslims suck" joke, but goddamn. This guy basically is using the club email list (which is in no way a political organization) to blast this poo poo out.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Obsolete posted:

I got this actual, crazy forwarded email from an older guy that sits on the board for a club I'm in.


That's all it is. It's just some lovely "lol Muslims suck" joke, but goddamn. This guy basically is using the club email list (which is in no way a political organization) to blast this poo poo out.

Might be against the bylaws, which could get himyou in trouble if you pursue it.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Feeling depressed? Facebook scientist has your fix:

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
2 handful of cashews found to be the leading cause of continued depression and suicide.

PUGGERNAUT
Nov 14, 2013

I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD
That's bullshit, I eat cashews all the time and I'm sad as gently caress

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
If you eat cashews and don't lightly roast them first you're worse than Hitler.

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009

Faustian Bargain posted:

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/11/04/an-amazing-supermarket-incident-in-canada-muslim-woman-is-put-right-in-her-place/

I always thought the "everyone stood up and clapped" thing was just funny, not that there were actual stories with it.

homerlaw
Sep 21, 2008

Plants are the best ergo Sylvari=Best

seiferguy posted:

Feeling depressed? Facebook scientist has your fix:



It also costs a poo poo ton more than prozac

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

homerlaw posted:

It also costs a poo poo ton more than prozac
Yeah but it's natural. Prozac probably has chemicals in it, you monster.

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

PUGGERNAUT posted:

That's bullshit, I eat cashews all the time and I'm sad as gently caress

you have to eat them all at once or it doesnt work

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



PUGGERNAUT posted:

That's bullshit, I eat cashews all the time and I'm sad as gently caress

Have you tried diluting them in a cup of water for every cashew nut?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Ninkobei posted:

you have to eat them all at once or it doesnt work

Can I grind them up and put them on a pie?

Sir Rolo
Oct 16, 2012


ALL NATURAL ANTI-DEPRESSANT JUST SNORT THIS poo poo AND YOU'LL FEEL REAL FUCKIN GOOD WOOOO

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Sir Rolo posted:



ALL NATURAL ANTI-DEPRESSANT JUST SNORT THIS poo poo AND YOU'LL FEEL REAL FUCKIN GOOD WOOOO
/

rkajdi
Sep 11, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

e_angst posted:

Where are you living that things are this bad? It's not 2010 anymore, things have been looking up economically for a while now. Plenty of my middle-class friends have been starting their families and having first or second kids.

I'm living in the US, where we learned nothing from the last crash and are well on our way to another economic downturn/crisis when we gently caress with the federal budget or debt ceiling in the near future. To say nothing of the continued automation of jobs that's been eating at the middle and lower-middle classes. We still have a huge amount of under and unemployed people, we can't even get a decade going without an economic downturn, and these aren't even recent phenomenon. Having kids means an 18+ year bet that the economy isn't going to hose you too badly during that period. I'm still saying taking that bet with our reduced or non-existent social safety net seems like all risk with no reward for the average middle class person right now.

I understand lots of people started to make families again, but lots of people in the middle class bought over-leveraged mortgages going into the housing crisis too. From an economic standpoint, having a kid right now is paying for the privilege of screwing over later generations of workers. People do it for other reasons (society pressure/biology/religion) but that doesn't make it the rational decision.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He may have been wrong about a lot of things, but he did administer the first triple reuptake inhibitor (SNDRI) to a patient with depression in a clinical setting. Also to himself, repeatedly.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Fulchrum posted:


THIS WEEK IN LL101!


Couple pages back, but it's amazing how political discourse today can be boiled down to buying fried chicken sandwiches and clicking on a 'Like' button.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude

Fulchrum posted:




Yes, because anything that donates to charity automatically makes up for all other forms of shitheadery. Which is why the KKK is a positive group since they donate to charity.


The Umbrella Corporation is the villain of the Resident Evil video game series. They literally make zombies for profit.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Alkydere posted:

Have you tried diluting them in a cup of water for every cashew nut?

Yall are dum. It doesn't say you have to eat them. Just carry two handfuls of cashews around all day. Boom! Not depressed.

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Crain posted:

Yall are dum. It doesn't say you have to eat them. Just carry two handfuls of cashews around all day. Boom! Not depressed.

Better idea is to put a crab apple in each cheek.

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