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Internet Kraken posted:His stomp doesn't seem to care about how fast you are because its basically instant. You just have to be far enough away from him that he can't use it, otherwise you're always at risk of getting hit. he'll do it to me even when we're on opposite sides of the room so i'm not too sure distance keeps him from using it.
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Secret rooms are almost always useless and there's not much else to use them on, though. Unless the game hides the one key on the floor behind some rocks or there's a blue rock I see no point in holding onto a bomb.
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Nov 16, 2014 06:47
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You can bomb the secret room dude for a chance at a steam sale and the mushroom secret room layout can get you a lot of chances at pills and mushroom collectibles for a relatively low bomb cost. Cash from secret rooms is also a lot more important now that there are so many good shop items. The odds of any one secret room being a big deal may be low but getting a good one early can be run defining. Much like curse rooms and blue rocks, really.
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Nov 16, 2014 06:52
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Aaaaaaaaaaaa Had an amazing Eve run going for my final unlock with her(The Lamb) and a bomb knocked me into the Polaroid. 
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Nov 16, 2014 06:53
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Dang it dang it dang it! Made it all the way down to satan with ??? and just couldn't bring it home. There was so much attrition from rooms with multiple laser eye monsters! There's just no dodging those, even with high speed.
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Nov 16, 2014 06:56
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another thing that has cost me so many lost runs: enemies that home in on you and if you want any chance at getting on with it and killing them to move on you hit them, which causes them to gain momentum in strange directions. most likely towards you. haunt, the fetus part of any gemini like boss, those retarded turd bosses, the guy that looks like gourdy, etc etc.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:03
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Just had back-to-back wins as ??? on Satan and Isaac  It was only because I didn't read what unlocked the D6 so I thought it was Satan and had to do it again  I got Ipecac on the first floor on the Isaac run, and holy hell is it a LOT better than BoI. I only blew myself up like three times the entire run, which was balanced by my buffed explosive shots taking every single boss out in like six hits. Bob's Brain is also a great addition to Ipecac because you're already firing in ways that shouldn't have you Brain yourself, or if you do you take the same amount of damage from both explosions than one so whatever. I'm also bad at this game.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:08
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I lost a really good ??? run in a terribly embarrassing way. I had a completely broken combo right from the first two floors; midas touch and gnawed leaf. All I needed to do was let any enemy run into me and boom free gold. Greed got the best of me, and I kept trying to midas every single enemy too early and lost all my health. I was loaded with gold but the shops didn't carry any soul hearts so I died a stupid death with a broken items. 
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Nov 16, 2014 07:15
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Should I focus on getting the negative done before I start trying cathedral runs? I'm already two pieces down on the negative and none on the cathedral.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:18
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Well, that's the second time Mom's killed me at the end of an otherwise-fine Computer Savvy challenge. I swear, that build obliterates so much and yet Mom largely shrugs it off if you didn't manage to find any Damage-Ups along the way.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:20
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Fun fact: the I AM ERROR room on the chest brings you back to the same level, but with respawned items. Fun fact: secret rooms can sometimes have batteries. Fun Fact: Undefined can teleport you to either.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:23
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Internet Kraken posted:I lost a really good ??? run in a terribly embarrassing way. I had a completely broken combo right from the first two floors; midas touch and gnawed leaf. All I needed to do was let any enemy run into me and boom free gold. Greed got the best of me, and I kept trying to midas every single enemy too early and lost all my health. I was loaded with gold but the shops didn't carry any soul hearts so I died a stupid death with a broken items. I had a really good ??? run with Gnawed Leaf and an auto attack follower as well that I lost because I never got any health and by the Cathedral I couldn't sit still long enough for the effect to kick in without something hitting me. I was attritioned to death before reaching Isaac. 
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Nov 16, 2014 07:24
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Oh what's that? They fixed The Lost + Dead Cat exploit? Glad I made a 1.01 backup before the patch 
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Nov 16, 2014 07:28
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Nov 16, 2014 07:30
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Ariong posted:Does beating Mega-Satan actually get you anything? Ending 16, don't think you get any items for it. It might count as a secret? Dunno.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:35
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You get a cool picture on your save file. e: The "it's in the cards" challenge went pretty smoothly. I got an early brimstone and steamrolled over everything. I even got a chaos card and an emperor card near the end, so I skipped the entire final level. e2: vvvvv Tap the "drop item" button. On PC it's left control. RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Nov 16, 2014 07:45
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Is there any way to drop cards/cycle through them when you have the card deck item?
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Nov 16, 2014 08:05
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Internet Kraken posted:Is there any way to drop cards/cycle through them when you have the card deck item? Left Ctrl if you're on keyboard/mouse. Otherwise, I dunno. Tapping it swaps which card/pill is first up, holding it (2-3 seconds, long hold) drops both trinkets and use items.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:07
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Is it just me or is The Bloat's side brimstone-shot way less obnoxious than in the original? It seems higher up on the model and way easier to continue getting shots in without taking return damage. Also Suicide King is playing with me, I finally got a full reroll room and I end up with Technology .5 and a Lil Brimstone, but couldn't use either effectively because I got Dr. Fetus too. That run ended with me getting bopped by 2 straight rooms of the red meat boy things.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:10
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Mega-Satan's third form got me, I haven't had a good fakeout like that in a video game in a while.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:13
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A D4 roll got me Dr. Fetus+Mom's Eye+Number 1. It was hilarious for the short while I was alive.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:13
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Manatee Cannon posted:Secret rooms are almost always useless and there's not much else to use them on, though. Unless the game hides the one key on the floor behind some rocks or there's a blue rock I see no point in holding onto a bomb. Gonna have to disagree. Money gets you a lot in this game. Arcades and beggars = more health = more chance to safely take devil deals. Not to mention, shop items which can often times be quite good.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:37
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SuicideSnowman posted:Gonna have to disagree. Money gets you a lot in this game. Arcades and beggars = more health = more chance to safely take devil deals. Not to mention, shop items which can often times be quite good. Also, Magic Fingers is ridiculous with any sort of cash reserve. Just murdered Isaac and ??? with it alone without having to use my Doubleshot Ipecac shots.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:39
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Probably the best item in the game (the stopwatch) comes from the shop.
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magic fingers scales off your tears damage so it's pretty unimpressive if you don't have any damage upgrades and very devastating if you do.
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SuicideSnowman posted:Gonna have to disagree. Money gets you a lot in this game. Arcades and beggars = more health = more chance to safely take devil deals. Not to mention, shop items which can often times be quite good. The ones with the mushrooms are also good for getting pills if you're feeling daring (or have PhD).
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Nov 16, 2014 08:41
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The stop watch, the treasure map, the compass, and the humbling bundle are all ridiculously good items. Plus you get the occasional soul heart or battery to recharge your D6. The shop is really drat good in Rebirth compared to the original game.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:41
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VDay posted:The stop watch, the treasure map, the compass, and the humbling bundle are all ridiculously good items. Plus you get the occasional soul heart or battery to recharge your D6. The shop is really drat good in Rebirth compared to the original game. The only problem with the shop is that because there are so many more shop items now, some of the more useful ones have become more rare. In the original game it was a pretty safe bet you'd see either a Treasure Map or a Compass in a shop at some point. Now they're harder to come by, which in turn makes The Womb and beyond a lot more taxing than they were before.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:45
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AHungryRobot posted:magic fingers scales off your tears damage so it's pretty unimpressive if you don't have any damage upgrades and very devastating if you do. Well that explains why it was doing so much damage then. Thank you Ipecac!
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Nov 16, 2014 08:45
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Ludovico totally guts your damage in Suicide King, don't be an idiot and think "this'll be sick, it'll be worth doing the boss rush for it" like I did.
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Nov 16, 2014 08:49
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Ahahaha! I've got Pyromania, I'll just sit here in the middle and let Mom stomp me helplessly! Wait, no, I didn't want to grab the Polaroid, I wanted the negative! Noooooooooo...  Seriously, twice in a row I've accidentally grabbed the Polaroid the moment the Mom fight ended when I wanted the Negative. I mean, at least I still have Isaac/??? unlocks to get, but I wanted to clear the other unlocks.
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SuicideSnowman posted:Gonna have to disagree. Money gets you a lot in this game. Arcades and beggars = more health = more chance to safely take devil deals. Not to mention, shop items which can often times be quite good. The slot machines also get you a chance for a Pretty Fly if you can't get orbitals any other way. Those are pretty important for every boss from It Lives onward.
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Nov 16, 2014 09:09
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Are there any item unlocks tied to hard mode actually?
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Nov 16, 2014 09:28
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FrickenMoron posted:Are there any item unlocks tied to hard mode actually? IIRC there are unlocks tied to killing Mom's Heart in Hard Mode.
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I think all the Hard Mom's Heart unlocks are co-op babies rather than items. The Lost has a Hard unlock though.Oxxidation posted:Beat Suicide King on my first try. No big deal, smirk smirk smug smug. Internet Kraken posted:His stomp doesn't seem to care about how fast you are because its basically instant. You just have to be far enough away from him that he can't use it, otherwise you're always at risk of getting hit.
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FrickenMoron posted:Are there any item unlocks tied to hard mode actually? You unlock familiars for co-op mode E: too slow
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Nov 16, 2014 09:31
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Really? Isaac is pretty much stationary so it's very easy to get to score direct IPECAC hits on him. i really wouldn't have wanted to fight satan with that loadout, so isaac is highly preferable
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Nov 16, 2014 09:33
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Isaac is a pretty easy fight when you've got non-standard tears (ipecac, brimstone, etc) and Satan is gonna be kinda sucky no matter what you have. I almost always go Satan unless I've got non-standard tears because Isaac's automatic retaliation on every hit drags the fight out a fair bit.
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Nov 16, 2014 09:37
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Man I've blown up every single slot machine I've seen in every run I've done for a fairly long time and I still haven't unlocked the D4, it's really getting on my nerves.
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Man, Chocolate Milk+Cricket's Body+Quad shot+Mulligan=Tears loving everywhere and tons of flies. Used that to beat the boss rush with Isaac(with a curse of darkness too). My finger is sore now though. EDIT: Power of Pecota posted:Is it just me or is The Bloat's side brimstone-shot way less obnoxious than in the original? It seems higher up on the model and way easier to continue getting shots in without taking return damage. Yeah that's my goto strategy for the Bloat too. His down laser is still really fast and annoying though.
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