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Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

e: nm shouldn't be contributing to this shitshow

Docjowles fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Nov 15, 2014

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Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
I posted longer than I should have and people made a large deal out of it; for that I am sorry.


It was my problem to respond to the problem and respond to that bait... I apologize for any confusion caused by me.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

So Evol and Dr. Arbitrary

Can do 1 more before I switch to "the Keg"; if we do 6 or more, I will do the keg because I think it's easier to keep under 500-750.


Also anyone in Charleston SC, the night of the 21st? I'll buy for 2.
If you're into steakhouses, also consider Mastro's and Donovan's. But I'll always have other restaurant suggestions, since that's where a lot of where my money goes. But I'm pretty open.

It also bears repeating: people who make money don't talk about money (as a rule that gets broken sometimes). I'm glad you're doing well. But people don't need to know exactly how well.

luminalflux posted:

Man some recruiters have bad timing. A week after I signed for :yotj:, I get recruiter from Google poking me.

Their interview process sucks anyway

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Talking about money like that really is pretty awkward

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



We have DAF sign, the likes god has never seen before.

evol262 posted:

Their interview process sucks anyway

I heard they had improved it, but never been through it. Then again $newjob is in downtown SF and not Mountain View.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009

College Slice

Accretionist posted:

Talking about money like that really is pretty awkward

CF/DAF is pretty awkward.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

luminalflux posted:

I heard they had improved it, but never been through it. Then again $newjob is in downtown SF and not Mountain View.
Despite all the lip service from their HR analytics drones about the optimum number of interviews, someone who's gone through it recently told me it still takes months to get hired.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Bet myself a beer that I knew what happened in this thread before I even clicked it.

I won.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
Although it is a controversial topic, pathological lying has been defined as "falsification entirely disproportionate to any discernible end in view, may be extensive and very complicated, and may manifest over a period of years or even a lifetime". The individual may be aware they are lying, or may believe they are telling the truth, being unaware that they are relating fantasies.


e: I don't doubt that a 24 year old can make bank and do Important Things. Meltdown prone people who can't recognize much less correct their mistakes do not tend to be these sorts of people.

Roargasm fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Nov 15, 2014

GOOCHY
Sep 17, 2003

In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!
Working in IT 3.0: Autists making 95K

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Roargasm posted:

I don't doubt that a 24 year old can make bank and do Important Things. Meltdown prone people who can't recognize much less correct their mistakes do not tend to be these sorts of people.

Skilled, specialized people can. They can thrive . There are a lot of unstable people who have done important things and gotten international acclaim in history. From a modern sense, you don't have to look farther than Temple Grandin. Or Einstein, whose personal life was pretty hosed.

There are enough armchair psychiatrists in the world. We don't need more. We've already had one scanned offer letter.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hell, you don't even have to be skilled nor specialized to do that. Sirhan Sirhan and Mark David Chapman are two great examples of unstable people without any marketable skills who left their mark on history.

Langolas
Feb 12, 2011

My mustache makes me sexy, not the hat

GOOCHY posted:

Working in IT 3.0: Drunk Autists making 95K

Don't forget the drunk part. A CF/DAF post isn't complete without us realizing hes drunk again and posting.


When 24 years old you reach, make 95k, you will not

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
e: Edited out most of this post, sorry for getting drawn into this. Dilbert, I really hope you are successful and I know your work ethic is insane, but all I see is you getting drunk and acting like an rear end in a top hat

Roargasm fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Nov 15, 2014

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I'm like a year older than him and make the salary he claims to (actually, more). I've actually met CF in person and, aside from the obvious social issues that keep cropping up once every other week, the dude knows his poo poo and is really invested in it. I don't think it's outlandish to believe that he makes as much as he says, particularly in Norfolk.

psydude fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Nov 15, 2014

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
If I interviewed for a job and wanted to call back and see if they had come to a decision, is about a week a good amount of time to wait? I felt like I really nailed the interview and hit it off very well with the department lead and asked the right questions. He didn't mention how many other candidates there were and I wasn't sure if inquiring about it was inappropriate.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
He's gonna get shitcanned and never see it coming its kinda great

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

Drunk Orc posted:

If I interviewed for a job and wanted to call back and see if they had come to a decision, is about a week a good amount of time to wait? I felt like I really nailed the interview and hit it off very well with the department lead and asked the right questions. He didn't mention how many other candidates there were and I wasn't sure if inquiring about it was inappropriate.
when you were at the interview, did you inquire as to the time frame that you could expect them to make a decision? Even for helpdesk we interviewed people over the course of a few weeks.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Is CF and DaF the same person?

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Tab8715 posted:

Is CF and DaF the same person?

Yes.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

psydude posted:

I'm like a year older than him and make the salary he claims to (actually, more).
drat. You're pretty jaded for being that young. I guess that's what happens when you live near DC :911:

Drunk Orc posted:

If I interviewed for a job and wanted to call back and see if they had come to a decision, is about a week a good amount of time to wait? I felt like I really nailed the interview and hit it off very well with the department lead and asked the right questions. He didn't mention how many other candidates there were and I wasn't sure if inquiring about it was inappropriate.

There aren't any real hard and fast rules about this. They could still be interviewing. Or waiting for HR approval to make an offer. Or... whatever. Calling back to ask if they've come to a decision is going to make it look like you're impatient. Or antsy. Which you probably are. Waiting for a call which may never come does that.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
I didn't want to seem anxious, like evol said, which is why I was hesitant to ask about a timeframe. I guess if I did as well as I thought I will hear back within a month or so.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

evol262 posted:

drat. You're pretty jaded for being that young. I guess that's what happens when you live near DC :911:

I have Afghanistan to thank for that after a year of working for/with the worst people I've ever met in my life (all Americans, BTW).

Bloodborne
Sep 24, 2008

I'm thankful that my time in the Army wasn't spent anywhere near computers. I'll take being cold and muddy with a ruck and rifle out in the middle of nowhere with cool dudes around me over being stuck constantly answering to battle captains or whatever in a warm building.

Also I love my job (most of the time) as a DC based SOC dude. Mainly I think because there wasn't one where I work until this last year and I'm basically getting to be part of the team that is writing the rules as we go.

Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up
E: I am greatly entertained by last night's antics.

Dark Helmut fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 15, 2014

Bloodborne
Sep 24, 2008

Or you could keep posting about recruiting or whatever, because that's entertaining.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Yeah, the recruiting posts are good poo poo.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



A pay number isn't valuable unless it's attached to benefits and cost of living. My paycheck will almost double when I move to SF but I'll probably have the same left over at the end of the month.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

luminalflux posted:

A pay number isn't valuable unless it's attached to benefits and cost of living. My paycheck will almost double when I move to SF but I'll probably have the same left over at the end of the month.

Unless you have a family, health benefits are kind of a moot point for young, healthy people. Things like tuition reimbursement, vacation, paid sick time, and flexible working arrangements are arguably more important to quality of living. You can lump a 401k in there, too; however recall that most companies require anywhere from 3-6 years of service for full vestment and most don't contribute their funds until the end of the calendar year, so even that has lost a good deal of its drawing power. Stock options also usually have a minimum service requirement in order to become fully vested. This isn't 1965 anymore: at the end of the day, none of those benefits matter if you can't afford to live off of what you make, so salary is probably more important than it has ever been. But that doesn't stop employers from touting benefits as a reason to not pay well (I'm looking at you, Boeing).

psydude fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Nov 15, 2014

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

evol262 posted:

drat. You're pretty jaded for being that young. I guess that's what happens when you live near DC :911:

I assume all posters are literally exactly like their avatars (myself included, naturally). So psydude is forever a haggard-as-poo poo Joe Perry and his jaded world view makes total sense.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

psydude posted:

none of those benefits matter if you can't afford to live off of what you make

401k is nice and all, but for the foreseeable all I'm gonna care about is how much rent I'll be able to pay each month.

Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up

Docjowles posted:

I assume all posters are literally exactly like their avatars (myself included, naturally). So psydude is forever a haggard-as-poo poo Joe Perry and his jaded world view makes total sense.

This is totally true. I always read your posts with the voice of Wilford Brimley.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
And I definitely fart a lot.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
You probably don't run into Shen-ji Yang much if you don't post in GBS or Debate&Disco, but I read all his posts in the voice and style of the secret project video for The Ascetic Virtues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_xh7xIabk

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

I feel strongly, some might say obsessively strongly about the need to preserve media history. I'm obnoxiously socialist about art, art history, education, the whole bag: a pinko troll film-nerd writerly type. Y'all have probably dealt with the likes before. I believe that pornography is an art form with a fantastic and humanistic history, that it's a consistent leader and definer in every new medium of art, that the valid study of pornography bla bla bla etc et al. Or, in painfully oversimplified quote-macro terms:

Edit:

After hearing MC Fruit Stripe complain about something in his virtual environment, I made this:

Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Nov 16, 2014

Pudgygiant
Apr 8, 2004

Garnet and black? More like gold and blue or whatever the fuck colors these are
Important interview tip, if you're going to go the extra mile and wear a suit, wear one that loving fits. "Ask me why my suit looks like a potato sack!" isn't an appropriate way to start a conversation about how you're really sticking to your workout plan this year.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Dark Helmut posted:

This is totally true. I always read your posts with the voice of Wilford Brimley.

FYI you have The Diabeetus. Sorry to say.

Actual avatar backstory: it was some identity theft awareness ad. The caption was something like "I bought $30,000 worth of liposuction!" My friends and I wrote for a comedy newspaper in college (think a shittier 'The Onion') and one of those guys used this photo in an article as a citation from "Dr. Roland P. Jowles". 20 year old me thought it was hilarious and for some reason over a decade later that is still my online identity :downs:

You used to be able to reverse Google Image Search my avatar and find the original ad but these days it's mostly my posting history and a few other idiots who apparently also found this guy's visage hilarious.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

Pudgygiant posted:

Important interview tip, if you're going to go the extra mile and wear a suit, wear one that loving fits. "Ask me why my suit looks like a potato sack!" isn't an appropriate way to start a conversation about how you're really sticking to your workout plan this year.

I had a guy wearing a denim jacket, jeans, and sneakers on Friday. I'm fine if you show up in business casual but don't show up looking (and acting) like a logger slash axe murderer.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

Sheep posted:

I had a guy wearing a denim jacket, jeans, and sneakers on Friday. I'm fine if you show up in business casual but don't show up looking (and acting) like a logger slash axe murderer.

Casual Friday!

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Sheep posted:

I had a guy wearing a denim jacket, jeans, and sneakers on Friday. I'm fine if you show up in business casual but don't show up looking (and acting) like a logger slash axe murderer.

Lumbersexual is all the rage these days.

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Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Sheep posted:

I had a guy wearing a denim jacket, jeans, and sneakers on Friday. I'm fine if you show up in business casual but don't show up looking (and acting) like a logger slash axe murderer.

Somebody's prejudiced against Oregonians. :colbert:

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