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mishaq posted:what i dont get with the ads on internet video streaming sites is why they are served from a different domain/server than the actual content that allows adblock to block them because of the way the ads are served. CBS.com has mostly no idea what ads its serving and shuffling different ads on and off cbs.com would be a big pain in the butt and would slow down the incredibly high speed ad market. no one cares about Adblock because (1) it's not that common and (2) no one wants to get into an arms race they can't win.
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taco_fox posted:the last time I had to sit through an internet ad the audio was all messed up and it was in the wrong aspect ratio some people cant encode their way out of a paper bag. The ad was probably produced just fine.
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mishaq posted:what i dont get with the ads on internet video streaming sites is why they are served from a different domain/server than the actual content that allows adblock to block them because ad janitoring is dumb, just let the media you're watching get paid for properly.
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PleasingFungus posted:pagancow, you are a tedious, lazy poo poo. go away forever, please.
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My Linux Rig posted:any tips for Vizio owners? lol http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457
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rotor posted:no one cares about Adblock because (1) it's not that common and (2) no one wants to get into an arms race they can't win. a ton of sites just dont play videos properly if they detect adblock is in use. at least the chrome/safari versions anyway. so they are detecting and blocking the adblock so to speak.
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Nov 17, 2014 00:53
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Last Chance posted:a ton of sites just dont play videos properly if they detect adblock is in use. at least the chrome/safari versions anyway. so they are detecting and blocking the adblock so to speak.
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Nov 17, 2014 00:54
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rotor posted:because of the way the ads are served. CBS.com has mostly no idea what ads its serving and shuffling different ads on and off cbs.com would be a big pain in the butt and would slow down the incredibly high speed ad market. i had to janitor my mom's computer to whitelist cbs.com because of the adblock detection scripts or whatever they've got on there now
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Nov 17, 2014 01:01
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pagancow posted:because ad janitoring is dumb, just let the media you're watching get paid for properly. i dont object to ads on the the tv streaming sites, but i need adblock on my mom's computer so she doesn't get a billion different forms of malware
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Nov 17, 2014 01:02
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pagancow posted:because ad janitoring is dumb, just let the media you're watching get paid for properly. i don't have a neilsen box so i can watch and pirate and block whatever the gently caress i want and it doesn't affect the media industry in the slightest.
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Nov 17, 2014 01:17
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watch ur ads citizen
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Nov 17, 2014 01:29
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whats the considered view of not looking at or paying attention to the sound of an ad
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Nov 17, 2014 01:30
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lol if u don't just buy the smallest, cheapest flatscreen at walmart because some 60" monolith gonna look awful in the living room and all that garbage media will look fine anyway who cares -a dude thats been using a poo poo sdtv up till this month
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Nov 17, 2014 01:33
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sacrificing tv and movies in order to kill advertising is a p good deal imo
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theadder posted:whats the considered view of not looking at or paying attention to the sound of an ad how dare you
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Nov 17, 2014 01:49
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Last Chance posted:a ton of sites just dont play videos properly if they detect adblock is in use. at least the chrome/safari versions anyway. so they are detecting and blocking the adblock so to speak. lovely little backwater sites living off the pittance they get from whatever godawful network they're with, sure. those are mostly driven by petty self righteous site owners all bent out of shape over people stealing from them.
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rotor posted:lovely little backwater sites living off the pittance they get from whatever godawful network they're with, sure. those are mostly driven by petty self righteous site owners all bent out of shape over people stealing from them. you mean richard 'lowtax' kyanka??
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Sagebrush posted:i don't have a neilsen box so i can watch and pirate and block whatever the gently caress i want and it doesn't affect the media industry in the slightest. that's not true for digital ads because depending on the agreement the site has with their network you're actually stealing up to a dime from them. if you honestly feel some guilt over this, unadblock the site a click a few ads then re Adblock it and you should be square with that site for life
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Nov 17, 2014 01:54
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IDINT EVENE OWN A TVV
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pram posted:you mean richard 'lowtax' kyanka?? I can't even imagine how toxic SA is for brand safety
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Sagebrush posted:i don't have a neilsen box so i can watch and pirate and block whatever the gently caress i want and it doesn't affect the media industry in the slightest. have fun not being the customer dont cry online when "there's nothing worth watching"
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theadder posted:whats the considered view of not looking at or paying attention to the sound of an ad everybody got paid, s'all ok.
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Nov 17, 2014 02:28
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adblock is awesome because it improves the navigability of streaming porn sites and torrent sites
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:adblock is awesome because it improves the navigability of streaming porn sites and torrent sites Now I see why you are all ad block crazy, you're doing illegal stuff! on normal sites ads work just fine and customers have no problems with them.
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Nov 17, 2014 02:34
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lol lets go search a torrent site for anime dot m k v
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Nov 17, 2014 02:35
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most normals go "hmm i could go to a shady site, and pick up a virus trying to find the right download button and wait for the whole video to stream and hopefully i understand codecs enough to watch" or "go to cbs.com"
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pretty much my entire extended family pirate like crazy
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pagancow posted:most normals go "hmm i could go to a shady site, and pick up a virus trying to find the right download button and wait for the whole video to stream and hopefully i understand codecs enough to watch" I'm taking a dump right now op
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Forums Terrorist posted:pretty much my entire extended family pirate like crazy ya im like the only one who DOESNT pirate it seems IRL
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PleasingFungus posted:pagancow, you are a tedious, lazy poo poo. go away forever, please.
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pagancow posted:most normals go "hmm i could go to a shady site, and pick up a virus trying to find the right download button and wait for the whole video to stream and hopefully i understand codecs enough to watch" id completely go to a legit streaming site for serial content i enjoy, rather than pirating it. its just... the ads, man. i cant take them.
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imagine if, instead of a video stream, your tv received instructions to display a football game, like "nfl says to draw 11 players here and the ball over there" and "nike says to draw this ad on the side of the field". for commercial breaks, you get something like "fox sports wants to redirect you to a bunch of ads, then back to the game", but in fact the game is immediately available and simply paused waiting for your return. also your tv is a general purpose computer, and people have developed software you can use to make it ignore any instructions besides "show the football game". tv advertisers would lose their poo poo, right? so why don't internet advertisers seem to care? i know the answer is "because nobody installs that software, nerd"... which is great for me, because i get ad-free content and nothing happens to stop it except some pagancow posts. but how can you base an entire ad industry on a distribution model that's so fundamentally misaligned with the goal of ensuring that ads are actually displayed to the viewer?
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imagine if, instead of a video stream, your tv just showed images of some dudes massively distended rectum and nothing else
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yes, i said football
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i like ads b.c i dont like paywalls
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FMguru posted:imagine if, instead of a video stream, your tv just showed images of some dudes massively distended rectum and nothing else what the superbowl ring is for
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pagancow posted:have fun not being the customer i don't treat television like it's something owed to me or even directed at me. i treat it as a thing happening over there that i don't really pay attention to but which occasionally does something cool for a bit and which i pay attention to at those moments. i don't think this is an uncommon way of thinking about television. if there's something worth watching, i will watch it. if there's nothing worth watching i will not become angry that no one is inventing new things to appease and entertain me, but rather, i will go do something else. i think this person you imagine who sits there pirating tv day after day and sputtering that there aren't enough anime catgirl tv shows on prime time is a straw man you've created to help assuage the guilt you feel at making stuff that everybody hates.
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like, honestly pagancow: can you come up with a single reason that advertising is a positive force in the world beyond "it is a necessary part of making things that people actually want to see?"
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