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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/17/whistleblowers-complain-fifa-ethics-report 2 whistleblowers named in FIFAs report were supposed to remain anonymous
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Jose posted:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/17/whistleblowers-complain-fifa-ethics-report Its obvious they did it deliberately to try and punish them. Much like everything about fifa, if you speak out they come down on you like a tonne of bricks.
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Nov 17, 2014 14:56
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Jose posted:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/17/whistleblowers-complain-fifa-ethics-report WB1: “It is one thing to discount our discussions and the evidence – an investigator is entitled to do that - but it is extraordinary to single out two individuals and detail (mostly incorrectly) the contact with Mike Garcia, especially when we were assured in writing and in person that our dealings with him were confidential.” WB2: “Not only was Herr Eckert’s summary a crude, cynical and fundamentally erroneous description of me and the information and materials I provided your investigation, it directly breached Fifa’s assurances of my confidentiality. As if identifying me were not enough, Herr Eckert’s report falsely discredits me in order to support his indefensible conclusion that the December 2010 bidding was wholly acceptable.” Everything about the entire 2018/2022 process from the start is just the most FIFA.txt poo poo imaginable, just corrupt leeches everywhere.
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Nov 17, 2014 14:58
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Jose posted:http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/17/whistleblowers-complain-fifa-ethics-report This could be the thing that finally lands FIFA in deep poo poo. I don't know about the countries of these people, but outing whistleblowers is a big no-no in the US and can cost you a ton of money.
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Nov 17, 2014 15:03
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That is utterly disgusting. Corruption I can understand, everyone like fat stacks of cash and cocaine lines off high class whores. But breaking an anonymity promise to send a message? That's below mafia tactics. Senseless villainy.
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Nov 17, 2014 15:32
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Nov 17, 2014 15:33
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If FIFA get busted for this it's going to be Al Capone finally getting arrested for tax evasion
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blue footed boobie posted:This could be the thing that finally lands FIFA in deep poo poo. I don't know about the countries of these people, but outing whistleblowers is a big no-no in the US and can cost you a ton of money. That's what I immediately thought too. Nut only did they out whistleblowers, but at least one guy seems to be accusing FIFA of slander. I'm not sure what the procedure is in Europe but if this was the US a company in FIFA's position would settle any lawsuit as quick as possible to avoid the discovery process.
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I did think the report was incredibly vague about these whistleblowers being 'unreliable'. There was no corroborating evidence aside from vague statements that they were wrong. They will most likely blame the sunday times.
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Nov 17, 2014 15:43
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30077311quote:The English Football Association has been urged to lobby Uefa for a European boycott of the next World Cup - unless Fifa implements meaningful reform. Full article is with a read. It mentions that he's also stepped down from FIFA's anti-discrimination taskforce, one reason being that in over a year they had one meeting.
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Nov 17, 2014 16:44
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Samsung are apparently dropping Fifa as soon as they can. Not even they want anything to do with them.
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Nov 17, 2014 16:51
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serious gaylord posted:Samsung are apparently dropping Fifa as soon as they can. Not even they want anything to do with them. Source?
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Nov 17, 2014 16:54
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Walk Free authored a report on modern slavery that was released today. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/17/modern-slavery-35-million-people-walk-free-foundation-report Russia on pure numbers manages the #5 spot, but Qatar does well on % population enslaved and gets the #4 spot. "FIFA stands for repect, fair-play, not just on the field of play, but in our society as well."
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Nov 17, 2014 16:57
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Daduzi posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30077311 Where were these calls to boycott when he was FA chairman? Easy to say it now he's moved on from the role, it's not like anything more has come to light since the report got published, everyone already knew how twisted it was and was always going to be whilst FIFA has control.
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Nov 17, 2014 16:59
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CareyB posted:Where were these calls to boycott when he was FA chairman? Easy to say it now he's moved on from the role, it's not like anything more has come to light since the report got published, everyone already knew how twisted it was and was always going to be whilst FIFA has control. For what it's worth, it sounds like the guy did try to do some good stuff like anti-discrimination and whatever while he was in, just that the problem is so systemic you can't do much without multinational support. Not saying he's a saint, or even not complacent in previous corruption. But he doesn't seem, you know, despicable.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:03
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Just a quick reminder that FIFA will have to pay millions to Qatar for a breach of contract if they forbid said country hosting the World Cup.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:08
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dex_sda posted:Not saying he's a saint, or even not complacent in previous corruption. But he doesn't seem, you know, despicable. quote:David Bernstein
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dex_sda posted:For what it's worth, it sounds like the guy did try to do some good stuff like anti-discrimination and whatever while he was in, just that the problem is so systemic you can't do much without multinational support. Nah I know, it's just really loving annoying having all these piecemeal statements of boycotting the World Cup or UEFA leaving Fifa - both great ideas that would change the game instantly - by people who have little to no control over either, but were in positions to do so previously.
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CareyB posted:Where were these calls to boycott when he was FA chairman? Easy to say it now he's moved on from the role, it's not like anything more has come to light since the report got published, everyone already knew how twisted it was and was always going to be whilst FIFA has control. He did make a stand when Blatter first reneged on his promise not to stand for election again. It resulted in the English FA being marginalised and having any position of power removed from them. Reminder that Blatter has now twice promised to step down than ran for election once more.
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serious gaylord posted:He did make a stand when Blatter first reneged on his promise not to stand for election again. It resulted in the English FA being marginalised and having any position of power removed from them. Reminder that Blatter has now twice promised to step down than ran for election once more. Goddamn, they really are a mafia
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serious gaylord posted:He did make a stand when Blatter first reneged on his promise not to stand for election again. It resulted in the English FA being marginalised and having any position of power removed from them. Reminder that Blatter has now twice promised to step down than ran for election once more. That's kind of my point. Why is it so difficult for a bunch of European FA's to get together on this and do something collectively? Clearly any power the English FA had in the first place was non-existent anyway.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:23
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CareyB posted:That's kind of my point. Why is it so difficult for a bunch of European FA's to get together on this and do something collectively? Most are probably quite cushy in their position. The remaining ones, Sepp has dirt on. Never underestimate the power of whores and blackmail, my friend
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CareyB posted:That's kind of my point. Why is it so difficult for a bunch of European FA's to get together on this and do something collectively? Because most FAs are content with the status quo, especially those who ask no questions and are happy to receive the brown envelopes. Limiting the power of a potentially rebellious football organization, like the FA, is a clever move in hindsight 
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Nov 17, 2014 17:26
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gently caress it then, let's get a grassroots campaign going and get the players involved where they refuse to play for their countries until this is sorted out. They'd probably be quite up for that. Because clearly there is nothing bigger than FIFA at this point, and every FA has dirty hands, but they need the players to play, so I don't see any other solution.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:27
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After France host 2016 I guess they'll join the calls for boycotts, just like Germany and England have done when there aren't tournaments on the line anymore.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:28
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lmao at thinking the guys paid millions a year who plow supermodels will rebel against their masters
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CareyB posted:gently caress it then, let's get a grassroots campaign going and get the players involved where they refuse to play for their countries until this is sorted out. They'd probably be quite up for that. I'll mod the forums
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*Football player smoking a Cuban cigar, wearing a gold chain and a 'Baller4Life' tattoo and with literal money signs as eyes, thinking about this proposition* A grassroots campaign against FIFA… It's so crazy it just might work!
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Nov 17, 2014 18:16
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BREAKING NEWS: Greg Dyke has said "We cannot go on like this." The FA have written to FIFA demanding that they publish the full report. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30088006 Publish the full report Blatter you bastard
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Nov 17, 2014 18:32
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Also quick reminder: the stated reason for not publishing the full report was in order to protect the privacy of those who gave evidence.
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Daduzi posted:Also quick reminder: the stated reason for not publishing the full report was in order to protect the privacy of those who gave evidence. Wasn't it because 'The full report would lead to criminal proceedings.'
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atomic gog posted:BREAKING NEWS: Greg Dyke has said "We cannot go on like this." S. Blatter posted:No
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Now I have a mental image of Sepp Blatter taking a massive poo poo after a night of particularly spicy Indian food and no sir I don't much care for it.
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Nov 17, 2014 19:54
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CareyB posted:Where were these calls to boycott when he was FA chairman? Easy to say it now he's moved on from the role, it's not like anything more has come to light since the report got published, everyone already knew how twisted it was and was always going to be whilst FIFA has control. He probably made them behind the scenes, but if he had done that publicly when he worked for the FA the FA, and by extension a lot of English football, would be pretty hosed.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:He probably made them behind the scenes, but if he had done that publicly when he worked for the FA the FA, and by extension a lot of English football, would be pretty hosed. He called out Blatter when he decided to stand for this presidency after promising he'd step down. The Fa was hosed for it.
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Can someone make a bullet point list of the funniest things that have come from this entire sham of an organization and then we can add to it over time so i can lol at reading it when i want to
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