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Yannick_B posted:DC built hype in the shittiest way possible, during an Investor call/meeting. It was almost reverse-hype building. Still, he is right but WB is being sort of dumb about their competing Movie and TV division. This is the real issue with the shows and movies being separate. With SHIELD and Daredevil being part of the MCU and made under the Marvel Studios umbrella, they're going to avoid harming those brands. With DC's TV production being all over the place and the movies being mostly under WB directly, and there being no direct relationship, you get this sort of stuff. Plus, there's the whole conference call vs what Marvel and Disney did, with a huge-rear end press event that had Evans and RDJ present.
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Us comic nerds know that the DC TV and movie's are completely separate but most people see what Marvel is doing with Shield and the movies and assume that DC is the same. So yes, people will probably ask what the gently caress when there is a new actor playing the Flash.
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Nov 18, 2014 04:19
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They have handled it badly no doubt about that, i'm content to have Amell in LEGO Batman 3.
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Nov 18, 2014 04:20
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GreenNight posted:Us comic nerds know that the DC TV and movie's are completely separate but most people see what Marvel is doing with Shield and the movies and assume that DC is the same. So yes, people will probably ask what the gently caress when there is a new actor playing the Flash. I still just want the DC movies to all fold in and for WB to just put all their comics money into tv shows. Plus the idea that Amell is going be Green Arrow in everything forever is a fantastic thing to me .
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He also mentioned that the movie doesn't come out for 4 years and he had a talk with Geoff Johns shortly after the announcement and came away feeling good about things.
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Nov 18, 2014 04:38
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Yannick_B posted:DC built hype in the shittiest way possible, during an Investor call/meeting. This is the bigger issue. They got spooked by all of the Marvel hype and just farted this all out during an investor meeting, and in the process coincidentally stepped on The Flash's toes because they did things in a half-assed and uncoordinated way. And it's not like they aren't already 5 years behind Marvel anyway, so why get impatient at this point? They could have established the brand and built off the popularity of the show, instead they hyped the show for months then after the second episode they made an announcement which seemed like they were already moving past it. It's just shoddy marketing.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:33
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Guy A. Person posted:This is the bigger issue. They got spooked by all of the Marvel hype and just farted this all out during an investor meeting, and in the process coincidentally stepped on The Flash's toes because they did things in a half-assed and uncoordinated way. And it's not like they aren't already 5 years behind Marvel anyway, so why get impatient at this point? You're talking about a company that just announced a movie for a character that almost nobody likes (Cyborg) starring an actor that has never acted in anything but stage productions six years in advance. Positioning the the cart poorly in front of the horse is kind of their thing.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:51
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Deadpool posted:You're talking about a company that just announced a movie for a character that almost nobody likes (Cyborg) starring an actor that has never acted in anything but stage productions six years in advance. Positioning the the cart poorly in front of the horse is kind of their thing. It was news to the Cyborg actor as well.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:55
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Still better than the guy Marvel got for Quicksilver though!
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Nov 18, 2014 05:55
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Aphrodite posted:Still better than the guy Marvel got for Quicksilver though! Which one
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Nov 18, 2014 06:06
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bunnyofdoom posted:Which one Aaron Johnson of Kick-rear end
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Nov 18, 2014 06:08
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hiddenriverninja posted:Aaron Johnson of Kick-rear end Also Godzilla and a bunch of other films.
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Nov 18, 2014 06:14
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It's weird, because everyone bitches about how controlling marvel's management is and how similar all of their movies feel. DC's movie division is what happens when you don't have any management whatsoever. I can't even gin up any outrage at how piss poor everything has been handled because it is so comically inept.
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Nov 18, 2014 07:21
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I just want Superman to fly around and punch dudes.
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Nov 18, 2014 07:37
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Yannick_B posted:DC built hype in the shittiest way possible Fits well with their production process.
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Nov 18, 2014 10:05
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The comics are even worse. so at least they are consistent in one way.
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Rocksicles posted:The comics are even worse. so at least they are consistent in one way. I remember in the 00s that DC was the franchise considered generally better because Marvel had done tons of "epic issue arcs" and was confusing as poo poo. Then DC caught up with Infinite Crisis and since they have vomited out a new arc every chance they get. Now they're both completely impenetrable to a new reader, and even trying to go back and read a detailed wiki of the lore is almost incomprehensible.
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pentyne posted:I remember in the 00s that DC was the franchise considered generally better because Marvel had done tons of "epic issue arcs" and was confusing as poo poo. Then DC caught up with Infinite Crisis and since they have vomited out a new arc every chance they get. This is where I'm at. I stopped reading comics when Civil War was starting up and I tried to get back in a couple months ago and just decided gently caress it.
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Narcissus1916 posted:comically inept. Tee hee.
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Aphrodite posted:Still better than the guy Marvel got for Quicksilver though! What's wrong with him?
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Nov 18, 2014 12:18
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And which Quicksilver? The one in Days of Futures Past or the one in Age of Ultron? Because I thought the former was done pretty well, and the latter hasn't had his chance yet so its kinda early to assume he sucks. 
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Nov 18, 2014 13:44
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Taylor-Johnson was pretty dull and wooden in Godzilla, but that's probably due to the ham fisted story about the military guy trying to get home to get laid in the wake of a giant monster attack. 
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Nov 18, 2014 14:20
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Only one of them is Marvel's Quicksilver.Xachariah posted:What's wrong with him? Did you see Godzilla?
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Aphrodite posted:Only one of them is Marvel's Quicksilver. Yes, the one that is Magneto's son.  It'll be interesting to compare the special effects between all three speedsters once Avengers 2 is out. Flash's so far have been really good, especially for a tv show.
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GreenNight posted:Us comic nerds know that the DC TV and movie's are completely separate but most people see what Marvel is doing with Shield and the movies and assume that DC is the same. So yes, people will probably ask what the gently caress when there is a new actor playing the Flash. They'll probably react like when Amazing Spiderman was announced, i.e. not caring.
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Aphrodite posted:Only one of them is Marvel's Quicksilver. Godzilla was great, you shut the gently caress up.
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Nov 18, 2014 16:17
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Epi Lepi posted:Godzilla was great, you shut the gently caress up. Yeah, I thought Matthew Broderick was seriously underrated in it. Oh, wait...you mean...
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Nov 18, 2014 16:19
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There's about a half hour of Godzilla that's good. The 15 with Bryan Cranston and the 15 with Godzilla. It's probably less than a half hour since some overlaps.
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Can we talk about the score? If my DVR was a VCR, I would've broken the tape from rewatching the wall-running and water-running sequences just to listen to the music cues. The music in this show compliments the onscreen action without imposing over it so well, plenty of film composers could take lessons.
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Aphrodite posted:There's about a half hour of Godzilla that's good. The 15 with Bryan Cranston and the 15 with Godzilla. I dare you to go here and say that.
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Nov 18, 2014 17:17
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I think I can take them.
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CD is bonkers about poo poo. Like "Michael Bay is actually an incredible director" and "Battleship the greatest movie of 2013".
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zoux posted:CD is bonkers about poo poo. Like "Michael Bay is actually an incredible director" and "Battleship the greatest movie of 2013". Isn't that mostly SuperMechaGodzilla?
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Nov 18, 2014 17:27
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And his legions of imitators. But no those are widely held opinions over there.
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Nov 18, 2014 17:29
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Yeah, but didn't they originate with him? He has a weird hold over CD, like I can never tell if people are honestly agreeing with him or just playing along with his schtick.
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Michael Bay's non Transformers films really are well directed though. Their kind of like Platinum games, just every frame overloaded with a ton of stuff to which an excruciating amount of detail has been paid attention to. Even the Transformers films are like that but everything about them that isn't visuals is so terrible directing isn't going to make up for it.
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Aw geez thought this was the chat thread, sorry Deadpool.
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greatn posted:Michael Bay's non Transformers films really are well directed though. Their kind of like Platinum games, just every frame overloaded with a ton of stuff to which an excruciating amount of detail has been paid attention to. Even the Transformers films are like that but everything about them that isn't visuals is so terrible directing isn't going to make up for it. Visuals aren't everything (and don't forget about the DP). There's also intent, what's meant to be communicated, editing (supervising the editor, check out this youtube clip of Scorcesse editing with Schoonmaker), dialogue, etc. When has Bay ever excelled in close to all of them? Pain and Gain being the exception of course.
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Both Bad Boys films are flawless. Actually they have one flaw: they must end.
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Aphrodite posted:Both Bad Boys films are flawless. Well, also Tea Leone isn't in the second one. 
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