Early FPS Megathread: the kids need to learn about TekWar sooner or later

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Dominic White: Nov 1, 2005

Roobanguy posted:

I started to play going down and I didn't know Cyriak made it until I heard the music. That came as a surprise.

There's some downright gross biological stuff in later levels, too, as you'd expect given his usual video output. He does amazing things with just basic Doom textures.

I hope he takes off the brakes for his next project and allows himself to use new textures and Zdoom features.

Dominic White fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 14, 2014

# ? Nov 14, 2014 19:03

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 05:53

SALT CURES HAM: Jan 4, 2011

In DoomRPG/DoomRLA, how exactly do I export a character and carry them over between WADs?

# ? Nov 14, 2014 23:30

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

SALT CURES HAM posted:

In DoomRPG/DoomRLA, how exactly do I export a character and carry them over between WADs?

Open the DoomRPG options menu from the pause screen, it should be way at the bottom. I think you can only have one character saved per install.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 23:33

Rocket Pan: Nov 3, 2011; Anything can be sent, as long as it's less than 1200 bytes

Do note that character saving is currently disabled in the live version, pending a rewrite. (It's being swapped over from 40 separate integer blocks into a string, due to the amount of inconsistencies and maintenance hell it kept presenting.)

# ? Nov 15, 2014 03:06

scroton_: Nov 12, 2014; Can't post for 6 days!

Segmentation Fault posted:

I love both the fantastic and practical applications of it. You can finally make moving sectors!

Ah dunno if this is what you mean but mite B relevant:

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?postid=1315756#post1315756

# ? Nov 15, 2014 03:34

nexus6: Sep 2, 2011; If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

jerkstoresup posted:

I made pk3s out of each DoomRPG folder and loaded them with QLZ like so:

Everything seemed to be working.

Care to share those? I can't get my head around the DoomRPG launcher and it seems to want me to put all my WADS/PK3s in a single folder? And it doesnt work with Doom 1?

# ? Nov 15, 2014 14:37

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

You don't need to make PK3s of the DoomRPG folders. GZDoom can take the directories as parameters. Here's my command line load out:

code:

~/Games/Doom/launchers/GZDoom.app/Contents/MacOS/GZDoom \
-iwad \
~/Games/Doom/iwads/doom2.wad \
-file \
< PUT YOUR WADS HERE > \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/doomrl_arsenal/DoomRL\ Arsenal\ Beta\ 7.93.wad \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/doomrl_arsenal/DoomRL\ HUD.wad \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRL\ Monsters\ Beta\ 4.6.wad \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG-Brightmaps \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG-RLArsenal \
~/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG-RLMonsters

As proof, the W_Init message in launch:

code:

W_Init: Init WADfiles.
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/launchers/GZDoom.app/Contents/MacOS/gzdoom.pk3, 592 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/iwads/doom2.wad, 2919 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/doomrl_arsenal/DoomRL Arsenal Beta 7.93.wad, 3896 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/doomrl_arsenal/DoomRL HUD.wad, 484 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRL Monsters Beta 4.6.wad, 4220 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG, 2027 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG-Brightmaps, 770 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG-RLArsenal, 27 lumps
 adding /Users/horse_mans/Games/Doom/custom/total_conversions/DoomRPG/DoomRPG-RLMonsters, 6 lumps

# ? Nov 15, 2014 16:11

nexus6: Sep 2, 2011; If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

Never mind, I found that pk3s are essentially zip files. Now that I have it working I can see that this is a pretty expansive mod.

Is there a wiki or guide for this? It's a little overwhelming.

Specifically, I'm playing with RL Arsenal and I can see a lot of assemblies in the store, but I can't buy them. I've already unlocked the full list of assemblies but there lots that aren't listed, like dual uzis. It's such a tease. Like, some weapons it says I can't buy because I'm not a high enough rank, but the assembled ones it just outright says 'You cannot buy this'

nexus6 fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Nov 15, 2014

# ? Nov 15, 2014 17:18

TerminusEst13: Mar 1, 2013

So I decided to take an hour break from DemonSteele and cook up a multiplayer mod and people seem to like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cscP_kHCOv4

# ? Nov 15, 2014 19:25

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Oh, I remember having a mod like that for Quake 2, though it just used the regular railgun/rocketlauncher.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 19:30

Malek: Jun 22, 2003; Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

TerminusEst13 posted:

So I decided to take an hour break from DemonSteele and cook up a multiplayer mod and people seem to like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cscP_kHCOv4

Ricochet with different weapons? Cool.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 19:42

Cerepol: Dec 2, 2011

nexus6 posted:

Never mind, I found that pk3s are essentially zip files. Now that I have it working I can see that this is a pretty expansive mod.

Is there a wiki or guide for this? It's a little overwhelming.

Specifically, I'm playing with RL Arsenal and I can see a lot of assemblies in the store, but I can't buy them. Nor can I find anywhere online that lists the requirement for assembling them. It's such a tease.

I'm at work right now but I'll hopefully remember to type up some words when I get home.

In the mean time

https://github.com/Kyle873/DoomRPG/wiki/DoomRL

This has some information

Cerepol fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Nov 15, 2014

# ? Nov 15, 2014 21:39

IHatePancakes: Jan 29, 2009

Came across this the other night. It's a concert in Doom done with some green screen trickery and with one of the guys who does remakes of the music (a la Sonic Clang and the like). Its kinda cheesy but also pretty awesome. He does a lot of my favorite songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvvIut19uA

# ? Nov 17, 2014 06:07

K8.0: Feb 26, 2004; Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

That is one of the most amazingly nerdy things I've ever seen but I can't hate on it at all. It simply is.

# ? Nov 17, 2014 06:26

laserghost: Feb 12, 2014; ^{trust me, I'm a cat.}

Someone remade Brutal Doom in all it's glory for Duke3D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txqpp6Z7tOc

# ? Nov 18, 2014 00:28

SolidSnakesBandana: Jul 1, 2007; Infinite ammo

IHatePancakes posted:

Came across this the other night. It's a concert in Doom done with some green screen trickery and with one of the guys who does remakes of the music (a la Sonic Clang and the like). Its kinda cheesy but also pretty awesome. He does a lot of my favorite songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvvIut19uA

I have no idea what I was expecting but it wasn't that. Incredible. Dudes playing the instruments need to jam a little harder though instead of just standing there, or is that a metal thing?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 01:20

QwertySanchez: Jun 19, 2009; a wacky guy

laserghost posted:

Someone remade Brutal Doom in all it's glory for Duke3D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txqpp6Z7tOc

It's even more Duke Nukemier than then real thing!

# ? Nov 18, 2014 01:43

Amethyst: Mar 28, 2004; I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

This is super cool, the world record for speedrunning Doom II has been broken, 23:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8j2zj-A5tE

# ? Nov 18, 2014 02:47

Zeether: Aug 26, 2011

The Doom64EX blog posted this recently: http://doom64ex.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/big-announcement-coming-soon

Any guess on what those blurred screenshots are?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 02:58

catlord: Mar 22, 2009; What's on your mind, Axa?

That first one looks like it might have a Quake element in it? That red circle reminds me of one of the stained glass windows, but, assuming this is another N64 thing, wasn't the N64 Quake basically the same as the PC version?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 03:05

Malek: Jun 22, 2003; Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Zeether posted:

Any guess on what those blurred screenshots are?

Post Processing Filters?

:suicide:

# ? Nov 18, 2014 03:05

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

I don't know what it is, but I'm almost positive I've played it before.

edit: That Doom 2 speedrun is literally the first one I've seen that doesn't use a bad scaling and a 4:3 resolution.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 03:06

The Kins: Oct 2, 2004

Third shot's bottom reminds me of the Daikatana HUD a bit...

# ? Nov 18, 2014 03:08

superh: Oct 10, 2007; Touching every treasure

Amethyst posted:

This is super cool, the world record for speedrunning Doom II has been broken, 23:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8j2zj-A5tE

He doesn't specifically mention, but was this down to route improvements or a really good run? No improvements since 2010 is really wild!

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:13

kirbysuperstar: Nov 11, 2012; Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Zeether posted:

The Doom64EX blog posted this recently: http://doom64ex.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/big-announcement-coming-soon

Any guess on what those blurred screenshots are?

Looks kinda Quake 2-ish to me. Were there any 'big' changes to Q2 on PSX/N64?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:16

SCheeseman: Apr 23, 2003

I'm thinking Slavedriver, that engine for the Saturn that powered the Powerslave, Quake and Duke3D ports for the system.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:26

catlord: Mar 22, 2009; What's on your mind, Axa?

Somebody in the comments tossed that out, that'd be super neat. I would love to play Powerslave with mouse and keyboard. And not have absolutely crippling strafing, like the PC version.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:28

SCheeseman: Apr 23, 2003

catlord posted:

Somebody in the comments tossed that out, that'd be super neat. I would love to play Powerslave with mouse and keyboard. And not have absolutely crippling strafing, like the PC version.

Powerslave on the consoles was actually a completely different game than the PC version. It used a lot of the same assets but played more like Metroid, with open levels and non-linear progression.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:31

PaletteSwappedNinja: Jun 3, 2008; One Nation, Under God.

Quake 2 N64 has completely original levels and original music.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:31

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

kirbysuperstar posted:

Looks kinda Quake 2-ish to me. Were there any 'big' changes to Q2 on PSX/N64?

Q2 PSX's levels are pretty different, but not really enough to be a "big announcement"

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:31

catlord: Mar 22, 2009; What's on your mind, Axa?

SwissCM posted:

Powerslave on the consoles was actually a completely different game to the PC version. It used a lot of the same assets but played more like Metroid, with open levels and non-linear progression.

Oh, I know, but the idea of being able to strafe makes me more excited than proto-Metroid Prime.

Not that proto-Metroid Prime doesn't sound super good, of course.

I just wanna shoot mummies with classy 1920's guns, really.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:35

BattleMaster: Aug 14, 2000

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Quake 2 N64 has completely original levels and original music.

I liked Quake 2's single player enough that I found N64 Quake 2 to be worth playing just for the original levels, which actually got pretty creative at times.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 04:41

Shadow Hog: Feb 23, 2014; Avatar by Jon Davies

I don't think it's Powerslave... I recall that game being a tad more yellow than the screens shown. Also having a yellowish-brown HUD, as opposed to the very-green one seen at the bottom of the blurred pics there.

Elliotw2 posted:

edit: That Doom 2 speedrun is literally the first one I've seen that doesn't use a bad scaling and a 4:3 resolution.

It even runs at 60FPS!

# ? Nov 18, 2014 05:01

Keiya: Aug 22, 2009; Come with me if you want to not die.

It's a Competition Doom run, not a COMPET-N run, they use a variant of Chocolate rather than the original DOS EXE.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 05:23

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

I was pretty sure a lot of COMPET-N runs were already done in chocolate doom and PrBoom+, due to having full demo compatibility in both while not having to deal with dosbox or whatever

That people have been choosing to encode lmp playbacks using a default 4:3 view was more of an aesthetic choice

# ? Nov 18, 2014 05:32

Linguica: Jul 13, 2000; You're already dead

Keiya posted:

It's a Competition Doom run, not a COMPET-N run, they use a variant of Chocolate rather than the original DOS EXE.

Did anyone call it a COMPET-N run?

Nintendo Kid posted:

I was pretty sure a lot of COMPET-N runs were already done in chocolate doom and PrBoom+, due to having full demo compatibility in both while not having to deal with dosbox or whatever

aaaaaaactually no, COMPET-N demands real doom2.exe demos, which is why it's basically dead now.

Shadow Hog posted:

It even runs at 60FPS!

It surprised me to read this since I spent some time making a prboom-plus variant to allow me to capture vanilla Doom demos at arbitrarily high framerates because I couldn't find any tool of the sort. So I looked at the Youtube again, and it looks like he FRAPSed (or whatever) 35fps gameplay at 60fps, meaning there's some wonky pulldown in effect. That's probably why it looked so weird and jitt63ery at 30fps playback in Firefox.

Linguica fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 18, 2014

# ? Nov 18, 2014 06:10

Keiya: Aug 22, 2009; Come with me if you want to not die.

Nintendo Kid posted:

I was pretty sure a lot of COMPET-N runs were already done in chocolate doom and PrBoom+, due to having full demo compatibility in both while not having to deal with dosbox or whatever

If they were, they're in violation of the COMPET-N rules, things have to be recorded on vanilla 1.9, no exceptions. It's why there's Competition Doom to begin with, most people don't have DOS systems anymore and getting dosbox just right is kind of a pain.

Linguica posted:

Did anyone call it a COMPET-N run?

No, but I never implied anyone did. I simply pointed out a reason for not looking like it was recorded from vanilla 1.9.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 06:21

Bouchacha: Feb 7, 2006

Can't you take the COMPET-N demo file and just run it through a prettier Doom port so that spectators have something better to look at?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 06:28

Segmentation Fault: Jun 7, 2012

My money's on N64 Quake 2. Quake 2 on N64 was a completely original game.

I'd love to see a PC port of console Powerslave but I don't think this is it. Powerslave looks nothing like in the screenshots.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 06:30

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 05:53

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Yeah, prboom+ will load and accurately play back demos, I'm sure that's what Nintendo Kid meant. My problem is mostly that when they do that they use the default bilinear filtering and 2x scaling, so all the sprites are muddy and nasty.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 06:30

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