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hangedman1984 posted:please, if anything May hosed him doggy style Well she did give him a right good drilling.
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Nah she just nailed him hard.
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Nov 16, 2014 18:43
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No, she just gave him a good screw
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Nov 16, 2014 18:50
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Nah she just nailed him hard. It's called pegging.
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Nov 16, 2014 18:51
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I totally blocked it from my mind that May had sex with Ward. Huh.
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Nov 16, 2014 19:10
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They didn't. They spent the night talking about dogs.
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Nov 17, 2014 01:35
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Gotta love people bitching about people having an actual discussion followed by a dozen completely poo poo posts.
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Nov 17, 2014 01:39
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ToastyPotato posted:Gotta love people bitching about people having an actual discussion followed by a dozen completely poo poo posts. Seriously. And started by the OP even. For shame Rarity.
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Nov 17, 2014 01:50
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S2E09 synopsis, contains extremely vague spoilers: http://marvel.com/news/tv/23684/declassifying_marvels_agents_of_shield_.ye_who_enter_here I don't buy the Inhumans theory myself, but it sounds like we should find out fairly soon whether there's any merit to it.
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Nov 17, 2014 23:22
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I love the guest stars listing, because you're like YES! Character X is in this one! YES! Character Y is in this one! ... and also a CASHIER!
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Nov 17, 2014 23:31
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I think "Chad" is a lot more hilarious than "Cashier" tbh.
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Nov 17, 2014 23:41
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greatn posted:I love the guest stars listing, because you're like YES! Character X is in this one! YES! Character Y is in this one! But what if that CASHIER were actually Abigail Brand? Or Veranke the Skrull Queen?
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Nov 18, 2014 01:48
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One episode had "waitress" and "bartender" in the listing. Sounds like a supervillain duo that got killed by Scourge in that bar that one time.
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Nov 18, 2014 02:59
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Barry Convex posted:S2E09 synopsis, contains extremely vague spoilers: You don't have to buy it man, but they are sure as poo poo selling it. Where is it losing you, just out of curiosity?
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Nov 18, 2014 03:26
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Rocksicles posted:You don't have to buy it man, but they are sure as poo poo selling it. The notion that Marvel Studios proper would let a mere TV series, one with which by all indications they have minimal hands-on creative involvement, be the first to take the Inhumans toys out of the box. By that, I don't just mean that this show can't introduce Black Bolt, Medusa, etc.; I'm sure that's obvious enough to everyone. What I can't get past right now is the idea that Studios would allow SHIELD to deliver some non-trivial modicum of exposition about (some combination of) Inhuman society, their quasi-cosmic origins, or Terrigenesis - and with the city as the main focus of the final episodes of the year, surely some modicum of exposition about its origins and purpose is necessary. Not before those crucial backstory elements are set up in a film with a much, much bigger budget in which Feige et al. actually have their hands, anyway.
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Nov 18, 2014 04:45
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It would get people watching though, having a big 'hey this thing in this new episode will be important for the MCU!!".
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Nov 18, 2014 04:53
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twistedmentat posted:It would get people watching though, having a big 'hey this thing in this new episode will be important for the MCU!!". With respect to the notion of this show ever being "important" to the broader MCU, I think that ship sailed a long time ago. There's probably a good reason why no one from Studios proper even has an EP credit. Since most of the Internet seems to have bought into the Inhumans theory, I guess I'm in the minority there, though!
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Nov 18, 2014 04:58
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Barry Convex posted:The notion that Marvel Studios proper would let a mere TV series, one with which by all indications they have minimal hands-on creative involvement, be the first to take the Inhumans toys out of the box. Backstories and characters aside you need the mythos. Getting a grip on what a kree and Inhuman is, will take some carefully placed flash cards for your average dimwit.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:10
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Did you guys notice that the cast listing also gives away that Patton Oswalt will be playing yet another Koenig? So we have Eric, Billy, and now Sam.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:16
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Rocksicles posted:Backstories and characters aside you need the mythos. Getting a grip on what a kree and Inhuman is, will take some carefully placed flash cards for your average dimwit. Does it? Thor and GotG introduced entire corners of the MCU with relatively little setup in previous films (GotG had a bit more in Avengers and TDW's credits scenes, but as far as the actual story went it was easily one of the more self-contained films Marvel has done), and Dr. Strange looks to do the same for the magic side of the MCU. That said, Feige did more or less say that there would be some Inhumans setup in the MCU sooner than November 2018. I just don't think SHIELD is what he was referring to.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:18
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They could always re-introduce it in a movie or something.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:21
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Barry Convex posted:Does it? Thor and GotG introduced entire corners of the MCU with relatively little setup in previous films (GotG had a bit more in Avengers and TDW's credits scenes, but as far as the actual story went it was easily one of the more self-contained films Marvel has done), and Dr. Strange looks to do the same for the magic side of the MCU. I dunno man, AoS isn't an island, shits happening in the universe. It's good to have movie level mythos and possibly characters come in to this show so the movies are not crammed full of stuff that can have a season of TV to be introduced, and then tent pole the greater story. It works for me, thus far.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:31
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The fact that they call it an ancient city makes me think it's just going to be ruins from some secret Kree city.
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Rocksicles posted:I dunno man, AoS isn't an island, shits happening in the universe. It's good to have movie level mythos and possibly characters come in to this show so the movies are not crammed full of stuff that can have a season of TV to be introduced, and then tent pole the greater story. It works for me, thus far. ...well, obviously it's one universe, but what "movie-level mythos and characters" thus far have been introduced in the TV series first? The closest thing is the presumably-Kree corpse, and they likely only got away with showing that before GotG by revealing absolutely nothing about what it was or where it came from in S1. Not really a workable model for every ongoing subplot. Deadpool posted:The fact that they call it an ancient city makes me think it's just going to be ruins from some secret Kree city. Yeah, probably an abandoned Kree outpost, and likely not one that's specifically from the comics. Actually, I'm kinda wondering how much SHIELD can even do with the Kree at this point, since GotG revealed next to nothing about them other than their existence and that they were at war with Xandar. Maybe it's actually a Skifflefuffle disguised as a Kree, who knows.
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Nov 18, 2014 05:58
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Barry Convex posted:...well, obviously it's one universe, but what "movie-level mythos and characters" thus far have been introduced in the TV series first? The closest thing is the presumably-Kree corpse, and they likely only got away with showing that before GotG by revealing absolutely nothing about what it was or where it came from in S1. Not really a workable model for every ongoing subplot. I didn't say any had, i said it would be good to have it (if that is indeed what they are doing). I think your being super nit picky about it. Anything that expands the universe for the better is totally fine with me. But it's your right to protest homeslice, go nuts.
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Rocksicles posted:I didn't say any had, i said it would be good to have it (if that is indeed what they are doing). I'm not talking about whether it would be a good idea (though I do have my opinion, posted earlier in this thread - tl;dr: I'm pretty certain it's not). I'm saying that as far as I can tell, the nature of Marvel Studios proper's relationship with this show, or lack thereof, doesn't allow for it.
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Nov 18, 2014 06:22
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Barry Convex posted:I'm not talking about whether it would be a good idea (though I do have my opinion, posted earlier in this thread - tl;dr: I'm pretty certain it's not). I'm saying that as far as I can tell, the nature of Marvel Studios proper's relationship with this show, or lack thereof, doesn't allow for it. Maybe not historically on the show, but i think it was a safe bet not to chuck a whole bunch of movie level poo poo at the TV to start with, adding stuff that will be/is a part of the movie universe is only a pen stroke away. The gloves are off really, they are to my knowledge the only TV show keeping lock step with a movie universe. So who's to say what they able or capable of doing. I'm half full on the subject.
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Nov 18, 2014 06:36
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I don't think anything can be said for certain. Nothing like this has ever really happened before. Marvel's kinda making this poo poo up as they go.
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Rocksicles posted:Maybe not historically on the show, but i think it was a safe bet not to chuck a whole bunch of movie level poo poo at the TV to start with, adding stuff that will be/is a part of the movie universe is only a pen stroke away. The gloves are off really, they are to my knowledge the only TV show keeping lock step with a movie universe. So who's to say what they able or capable of doing. I'm half full on the subject. Yeah when you don't know if a show is going to last or not, it doesn't make sense to go hog wild with it. But with the step up in quality post Winter Soldier I honk they could be more confident in doing so. And it would probably boost viewership of people knew serious poo poo happens on the show instead of it just being a mirror to the films.
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Nov 18, 2014 14:45
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Phylodox posted:I don't think anything can be said for certain. Nothing like this has ever really happened before. Marvel's kinda making this poo poo up as they go. For certain? Well, true, it's not like I work on the show and have already seen the next few episodes. But I don't see how the Inhumans' introduction, even purely as a concept, could happen without Marvel Studios taking a direct, hands-on role in breaking story for the season. And there's just no indication that they're involved with SHIELD on that level. Riven posted:Yeah when you don't know if a show is going to last or not, it doesn't make sense to go hog wild with it. But with the step up in quality post Winter Soldier I honk they could be more confident in doing so. And it would probably boost viewership of people knew serious poo poo happens on the show instead of it just being a mirror to the films. What I'm saying has nothing to do with ratings and everything to do with the implicit assumption that only one "they" would be necessary for that to happen. Look, Marvel Studios proper does not care that much about this show. Well, I don't mean at all, I'm sure most of the folks there enjoy SHIELD and would be sorry to see it go, but it won't make a drat bit of difference to their game plan through 2019 if the show gets cancelled. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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Nov 18, 2014 15:51
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I don't know how much involvement would even be required. They would only really have to give the TV division the green light to introduce the Inhumans. It could be seen as stealing the future Inhumans movie's thunder...or it could be seen as lifting a burden of exposition off of it. Instead of being an origin story and having to introduce all of the necessary ideas, they could just start in media res, drop only what explanations would be necessary to understand the film, and basically say "Would you like to know more about the Inhumans? Check out ABC's Agents of SHIELD for the whole story!" Yeah, it would be almost unprecedented, but a lot of this whole medium-spanning venture is.
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Nov 18, 2014 16:08
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What about the whole Hydra thing and Cap 2? Obviously they had prior knowledge and worked with MCU.
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Yeah, but that was SHIELD riding the coattails of Winter Soldier, not vice versa. We didn't even get a SHIELD cast reaction shot in the movie.
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Phylodox posted:Yeah, but that was SHIELD riding the coattails of Winter Soldier, not vice versa. We didn't even get a SHIELD cast reaction shot in the movie. I'm going to peg that on Marvel not wanting to drop the whole Coulson is alive on Cap in Winter Soldier in addition to everything else which is understandable. However, if that truthbomb doesn't drop in Age of Ultron, I'm going to be seriously sad.
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They didn't need to show Coulson. Just, like, Skye and May and Fitzsimmons. Stick 'em in amongst a bunch of other reaction shots. People who watch Agents of SHIELD get a kick out of it, people who don't go, "Hey, was that Ming Na?" and then forget about it.
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Nov 18, 2014 16:26
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They could introduce inhumans without ever really using the word "Inhumans". Basically have them be exactly what the inhumans are without giving it a name. They showed a Kree body but didn't name the alien but anyone who has seen Guardians could make the visual connections.
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What's her face name dropped Kree when she gave a list of blue aliens that it could possibly be. This happened before GoTG, which proceeded to show 2 of the species she named. Anyway, AoS has a bit of a barrier between it and the MCU proper, and that is that no one in the movies knows (or acknowledged that they know) that Coulson is alive. With Coulson essentially being SHIELD, we can't see any real interaction until the new SHIELD is acknowledged in a film. Reports indicate that something along the lines of this SHOULD happen in Avengers 2, but unfortunately that movie takes place after the end of Season 2. So there simply isn't an open door for AoS to do much this season, aside from potentially provide bonus exposition for movie stuff. Also, I don't understand how having Inhumans revealed on AoS is a big deal, but having Kree visiting Earth hundreds if not thousands of years prior to the beginning of the MCU being revealed isn't. I'd say those are both absolutely substantial. Captain Marvel is getting a movie and her whole existence is Kree/Earth related, so if it turns out the city is Kree and the body is Kree, then that is no different than Inhuman backstory stuff popping up on the show instead.
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ToastyPotato posted:Anyway, AoS has a bit of a barrier between it and the MCU proper, and that is that no one in the movies knows (or acknowledged that they know) that Coulson is alive. With Coulson essentially being SHIELD, we can't see any real interaction until the new SHIELD is acknowledged in a film. Reports indicate that something along the lines of this SHOULD happen in Avengers 2, but unfortunately that movie takes place after the end of Season 2. So there simply isn't an open door for AoS to do much this season, aside from potentially provide bonus exposition for movie stuff. I keep hearing this "the season ends before AoU" nonsense; do people think AoU is opening Memorial Day weekend rather than May 1, or later, or what? Unless ABC cuts the show's order, there will be at least three episodes airing after AOU is releases There were always going to be at least two; 22-episode TV seasons never end before mid-May, or at least, I can't recall the last time one did. As for what you're alluding to in AoU, I believed it for a while, but I recently reconsidered the source and it's actually incredibly dubious. A single, no-name UK blogger took a single, blurry photo of a black dude who could just as easily be Anthony Mackie from that distance, and said it was Britt; most of the fanboy Internet took this at face value, as it is wont to do with such things. That's it, as far as I can tell. quote:Also, I don't understand how having Inhumans revealed on AoS is a big deal, but having Kree visiting Earth hundreds if not thousands of years prior to the beginning of the MCU being revealed isn't. I'd say those are both absolutely substantial. Kree having visited Earth is a laudable bit of world-building for this show, but it's not germane to the films unless the city in question is Inhumans-related or Captain Marvel's plot involves ancient Kree on Earth and not just ones of more recent vintage. So no, I don't agree that it's "substantial" as far as the movies are concerned, at least that it's inherently so. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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Barry Convex posted:I keep hearing this "the season ends before AoU" nonsense; do people think AoU is opening Memorial Day weekend rather than May 1, or later, or what? Unless ABC cuts the show's order, there will be at least three episodes airing after AOU is releases There were always going to be at least two; 22-episode TV seasons never end before mid-May, or at least, I can't recall the last time one did. Ah I never really followed up on that rumor so I didn't really know where it came from. It also sounded uninteresting. As for there being episodes airing after the movie. That's great news, in my opinion.
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Barry Convex posted:I keep hearing this "the season ends before AoU" nonsense; do people think AoU is opening Memorial Day weekend rather than May 1, or later, or what? Unless ABC cuts the show's order, there will be at least three episodes airing after AOU is releases There were always going to be at least two; 22-episode TV seasons never end before mid-May, or at least, I can't recall the last time one did. It depends on how many episodes they're showing before the holidays and Agent Carter. I guess they're doing a 10/12 split so the finale should be on May 17 I think?
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