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GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.

superh posted:

Forward RT B is what you want. (assuming the mapping is the same as on PS4 - it's circle there) it hops over waist high obstacles and doesn't go up at all. It's the same thing that gets you down, once you're up.

That's not what I mean though. I do not want to go over everything I run up against at all times. For example indoors I don't want to go over railings and then hang there like a dumbass when I just wanted to run away. It's loving stupid to have a free-run button but then also have your character free-run in some circumstances anyway even if you don't hold that button. It makes the controls ambiguous and poo poo.

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BattleSausage
Aug 14, 2003

I'm butter side up, baby.

Taco Defender

Tempo 119 posted:

I'm nearly at the end of Unity but I have no idea how to proceed in 12-1 because the tent I want to use to start my approach is loving invisible to the AI and they all spot me through it.

Start on the east side, whack the one guard there, then pop through the window. Of course, Arno spends his time lingering over poo poo like a stupid idiot so it may take a few tries.

superh
Oct 10, 2007

Touching every treasure

GhostDog posted:

That's not what I mean though. I do not want to go over everything I run up against at all times. For example indoors I don't want to go over railings and then hang there like a dumbass when I just wanted to run away. It's loving stupid to have a free-run button but then also have your character free-run in some circumstances anyway even if you don't hold that button. It makes the controls ambiguous and poo poo.

The issues you're having sound a lot like every other AC and AC like game then. The controls in unity seem better than 4 by a mile to me, where I'd be running along and stick to a barrel. Shits janky and has always been!

BattleSausage
Aug 14, 2003

I'm butter side up, baby.

Taco Defender

superh posted:

The issues you're having sound a lot like every other AC and AC like game then. The controls in unity seem better than 4 by a mile to me, where I'd be running along and stick to a barrel. Shits janky and has always been!

I don't know, I still get that. Especially with the new cover key which also doubles as the "low profile" key so I keep getting stuck to walls and counters and poo poo. I've been killed more than once because Arno won't get the gently caress off whatever thing he's jumped on while people are stabbing him.

Pigbottom
Sep 23, 2007

Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time.

Deakul posted:

You're pretty unlucky, I'm about 3 hours in myself and haven't run into any bugs save for general dev laziness.(seeing npcs in farming attire tilling fields... when it's covered in snow, then again maybe I'm missing something about farming?)

Well, I guess I`ll try to keep on playing now that I slept off some of the nerd-rage. Hopefully the later sequences will be less glitchy.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5tCCk1xpUI

sewersider
Jun 12, 2008

Damned near Freudian slipped on my arse
Who ever decided that pop ups should go right over open dialogue/quest entries should be shot.
Just sayin.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

sewersider posted:

Who ever decided that pop ups should go right over open dialogue/quest entries should be shot.
Just sayin.
I think the problem is that no one decided; dev group 7 in Montreal did the quest dialog boxes, dev group 23 in Chengdu or somewhere did the pop-ups, and they never communicated with each other about where they were on the screen.

Al Harrington
May 1, 2005

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the eye
YOU HAVE UNUSED CREED POINTS

sewersider
Jun 12, 2008

Damned near Freudian slipped on my arse

Samurai Sanders posted:

I think the problem is that no one decided; dev group 7 in Montreal did the quest dialog boxes, dev group 23 in Chengdu or somewhere did the pop-ups, and they never communicated with each other about where they were on the screen.

Yeah it's by no means the biggest thing wrong with unity but it's one of several things that should have been picked up on and fixed during testing.
I'm just about up to sequence 9, and I'm really only playing it for the historical tourism.
I've never really gotten into rear end cred before (except for black flag, cos pirates) but I always thought that the French Revolution would be an amazing setting for it. It's so frustrating to see that setting squandered, they wouldn't need to insert Arno into every event but the great thing about the revolution is it was so centralised in Paris over that time.

Also, the movement was already kinda janky in black flag, I didn't think they could make it worse. But they did.
When this game manages to run though it looks stellar, I don't think we'll ever see this time period realised so well. I feel bad for the artists who slaved over this game only to see it shat on because of lovely design, bugs and a mediocre story.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

How is the french voicework?

Please tell me that its at least passable. The british voice acting is so, so, jarring. I don't care about the reasons why - for me it automatically takes me completely out of any story they are trying to tell.

bunky
Aug 29, 2004

Al Harrington posted:

YOU HAVE UNUSED CREED POINTS

gently caress, I know. I only have one. What the gently caress will that get me game

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
I'm curious. Does this game have the usual "HEY WE HAD LOTS OF MINORITIES WORK ON THIS SO WE'RE TOTALLY NOT RACIST AT ALL ABOUT ANYTHING EVER" like all the previous AC games have done? I don't know why but I've always found that hilarious.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Tracula posted:

I'm curious. Does this game have the usual "HEY WE HAD LOTS OF MINORITIES WORK ON THIS SO WE'RE TOTALLY NOT RACIST AT ALL ABOUT ANYTHING EVER" like all the previous AC games have done? I don't know why but I've always found that hilarious.
Oh yeah. Even though the religious aspect of the Crusades is long long gone, they still have to drag that out at the beginning of every game.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Did Charlotte Corday make it into Unity, or was a female assassin too difficult to code?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Narcissus1916 posted:

How is the french voicework?

Please tell me that its at least passable. The british voice acting is so, so, jarring. I don't care about the reasons why - for me it automatically takes me completely out of any story they are trying to tell.

Don't have unity but if it's like other asscreed games it should be passable.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




sewersider posted:

Who ever decided that pop ups should go right over open dialogue/quest entries should be shot.
Just sayin.

It's stupid as hell but if you futz around in the UI options there's a toggle to turn "SPEND YOUR 1 UNITY POINT" off. I think it's either the "friend hint" or "progression hint" or something like that, I turned two off and those pop-ups went away while I haven't seemed to have any issue with missing other indicators.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Did they fix Unity's technical issues on PC yet?

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Palpek posted:

Did they fix Unity's technical issues on PC yet?
Hahahaha

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Palpek posted:

Did they fix Unity's technical issues on PC yet?

lol

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Let me know when it happens so that I can get my rear end Creed fix.

sewersider
Jun 12, 2008

Damned near Freudian slipped on my arse

Narcissus1916 posted:

How is the french voicework?

Please tell me that its at least passable. The british voice acting is so, so, jarring. I don't care about the reasons why - for me it automatically takes me completely out of any story they are trying to tell.

I've been playing from the beginning with French audio and subtitles and it's been great, the only time it becomes jarring is when the lipsyncing doesn't match up too well in cutscenes.
I switched back to British Paris to see how it was and it completely changed the feel of the game.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Speaking of voicework, I see Ubisoft didn't even attempt to find a Finnish speaker to voice their big Templar boss from Finland, Otso Berg. The Canadian VA they got to do his voice in Rogue is just speaking in this sort of vague European accent, and I can tell you right now that a Finnish accent doesn't sound remotely like that.

MY IMMERSION :finland:

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Revelations wasn't a horrible game, those extra missions in the huge landmarks like the Hagia Sophia were pretty awesome and when you finished them you got medieval Boba Fett armor that could block gunshots

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Revelations owned.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The French voicework is probably terrible but if you're not familiar with the language you don't notice it.

Kind of like how people will insist the Japanese VO is better in everything.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I mean not really. Even if you don't understand the language, it's pretty easy to tell by inflection and timing whether the actor gives a poo poo or not.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

That's only true for some languages coming from English.

Davoren
Aug 14, 2003

The devil you say!

I like Roger Craig Smith so I never used the Italian voices in the Ezio games, but after hearing the ridiculous west country accents on display in some of these videos I think this game might call for it.

OxMan
May 13, 2006

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Davoren posted:

I like Roger Craig Smith so I never used the Italian voices in the Ezio games, but after hearing the ridiculous west country accents on display in some of these videos I think this game might call for it.

The animus giving everyone italian accents was fine, because they'd throw in Italian words that are similar in english (ex: "what is this dance del diavolo?) and why they couldn't do it again in french is a mystery. Also french De Sade is great.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Aphrodite posted:

The French voicework is probably terrible but if you're not familiar with the language you don't notice it.

Kind of like how people will insist the Japanese VO is better in everything.

This being a thing for anime is more because the voice actors who do the voices for anime are professionals who usually do nothing but voice work. Their career is based on their ability to emoting entirely through their voice, and some of them are truly phenomenal. When a lot of anime gets dubbed into English, they often get live-action actors who are accustomed to emoting through being seen, and fail miserably when handicapped to just their voice.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

I occasionally feel a little guilty playing Rogue. There's a hell of a lot of collectibles, and most of them just unlock cosmetic outfits or weapons. And yet I keep hoovering up the items (with the exceptions of chests and fragments), my gaming OCD kicking in something fierce.

Also, I really hope future AC games borrow or refine the stalker enemies in Rogue. They're basically the older games' multiplayer feature done in the single player, and it works really well.

Narcissus1916 fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Nov 18, 2014

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Narcissus1916 posted:

Also, I really hope future AC games borrow or refine the stalker enemies in Rogue. They're basically the older games' multiplayer feature done in the single player, and it works really well.

When it works it's great. When it doesn't it's hilarious.

My favorite was when a stalker popped up to get me while on a rooftop, but instead fell off and died.

Not to mention how sometimes you'll land right next to them and then they'll run off Scooby Doo cartoon style.

Syka
Mar 24, 2007
sum n00b or wut?

macnbc posted:

My favorite was when a stalker popped up to get me while on a rooftop, but instead fell off and died.

They probably have just as hard of a time with the controls as we do.

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.
I know it's only been a week or so, but are there any giant spoiler posts about the story of Unity? After hearing all the bad reports of the game, I'm thinking about skipping this one but I want to know about the story. I checked the Asscreed wikia but they don't seem to have one post on the story that I could find.

Edit: Or someone want to give me a couple lines of spoilered text right here?

The Macaroni fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Nov 18, 2014

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Aphrodite posted:

Kind of like how people will insist the Japanese VO is better in everything.
To be fair, most Japanese VO is better than English voice acting. Part of this is probably because of poor communication between overseas departments over details of how lines should be delivered, and part of is that English voice directors seem to never give a gently caress.

Comparing VO kinda depends on how well you understand the language they're speaking in, too. I played The Witcher in Polish and I was like "yeah this is fine!" but I'm sure a native speaker would think I'm a dumbass for saying so. I got a pretty good Japanese language education in my weeb days, though, so I can compare the small poo poo they do in the Japanese language tracks to the stuff they skip entirely in English and say yeah, the English localizations tend to suck a lot of flavor out in favor of (thanks to the aforementioned poor directing) weird, emotionless grunts and poo poo.

Fur20 fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Nov 18, 2014

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

sewersider posted:

I've been playing from the beginning with French audio and subtitles and it's been great, the only time it becomes jarring is when the lipsyncing doesn't match up too well in cutscenes.
I switched back to British Paris to see how it was and it completely changed the feel of the game.

I actually had to turn the French voices back to English, purely because I couldn't keep up during those "talk while fighting" sequences. I just found it too difficult to concentrate on fighting and reading the subtitles at the same time. Otherwise it was pretty great though.

Seedge
Jun 15, 2009
Hey, buddy. :glomp:



There are so many bad things about this, but why can't I reload my six-shot pistol?

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

How many slots for ammo do you have in whatever kit you're currently using? Maybe you only got six bullets total, chief.

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matrix ripoff
Mar 16, 2005

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i only suck dick in self defense
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and at the bookstore
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Palpek posted:

Revelations owned.

Even if I was getting tired of Ubisoft's The Ezio Show!, it was the strongest entry in his story and it was a very satisfying ending. It made me very excited for AC3 and I had high hopes for Conner.

Then they killed Desmond and Conner is about as personable as a sack of doorknobs. One day I'll force myself to go back and actually finish it, if just to rack up some Initiates levels. That's totally going to pay out, right guys????

edit: uuugggghhhhh Xbox Live is down WELCOME TO THE ALL DIGIMAL AGE

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