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That Krugman article is pretty good, can't imagine his reaction to Fournier's piece. Must've been great.katlington posted:For what it's worth personally thanking members of the armed forces is an american only thing and even then it only started in the last decade or so I think? The yellow ribbon thing started with the Gulf War and you had a lesser version of the mantra back then, then it was brought back in a stronger fashion by the GOP to deflect from Bush loving everything up with the wars.
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Gruber has joined the long list of people who have been PNG'd for daring to say out loud what everybody already knew was exactly correct. The idea that the average American voter is 1) stupid and 2) economically illiterate is something that both parties not only agree with completely, but have used to their full advantage for decades of decades. You're just not supposed to say it explicitly, man. Also, I'm inclined to agree with Krugman if he is indeed of the opinion that Very Serious People are more harmful to discourse and to the country the Rush & Co.
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stinkles1112 posted:Also, I'm inclined to agree with Krugman if he is indeed of the opinion that Very Serious People are more harmful to discourse and to the country the Rush & Co. That's true, but this particular moment is scary because the "serious people" are taking their cues from the screaming loonies and whitewashing it rather than putting out lovely wonk pablum and letting the loonies figure out what to scream about.
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shadow puppet of a posted:I have no doubt that 'Support Are Troops' can be traced directly back to an advertising campaign for the Ford F-150. Chevy replied with the John Cougar Mellencamp 'This is Are Country' campaign for the Silverado and so things have been locked up in spiraling, escalating masturbatoria of all things militaria but entirely divorced from military reality. It's really more a reaction to the treatment of soldiers during and following Vietnam.
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FuzzySkinner posted:What's weird about Limbaugh was he was pretty vocally against any sort of censorship of internet (in regards to pornography). on the episode of The Drew Carey he was on. Um EXCUSE me LIEbrul but I think you'll find Rush Limbaugh is niether for, nor against, anything: he's just telling it like it is. If YOUR feeble LIEbrul mind interpret that as an "opinion" well that's on you, Meister Limbaugh can not be held responsible for assumptions YOU make. Stop using your PC LIEbrul tricks of trying to pin down the beautiful butterfly that is Rush Limbaugh: he didn't SAY that, nor did he NOT say that...
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or something along those lines. Just seems odd he's against it in that regard. But of course, it could be just having to disagree with everything that Obama supports out of principle.
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Sir Tonk posted:The yellow ribbon thing started with the Gulf War and you had a lesser version of the mantra back then, then it was brought back in a stronger fashion by the GOP to deflect from Bush loving everything up with the wars. It started with the Iran hostages actually in the late 70's.
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BiggerBoat posted:It started with the Iran hostages actually in the late 70's. Ooops- farther back. It started with the return of US pows from Vietnam. Because of Tony Orlando and Dawn, and that song about a guy coming home from prison.
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So Darrell Issa, lover of congressional investigations of Benghazi, retweeted support for Oswald and the SS after asking people on twitter to send him pictures of their family members in military service. Washington Times makes an attempt at damage control. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/9/darrell-issa-tricked-into-retweeting-support-for-h/
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Darkman Fanpage posted:So Darrell Issa, lover of congressional investigations of Benghazi, retweeted support for Oswald and the SS after asking people on twitter to send him pictures of their family members in military service. Washington Times makes an attempt at damage control. Learned that "de-retweeted" is a thing. Also, hilarious.
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Even assuming all that was innocent I can still make fun of Issa for being so dedicated to our fine men and women in uniform that he had an unpaid intern make a public display of re-tweeting a few things without really looking at them. Truly a great patriot 
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Washington Post posted:really a photo of Lee Harvey Oswald, the former Marine believed to have assassinated President John F. Kennedy  The Truth is out there... Was Obama the real assassin? WaPo is just asking questions.
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McDowell posted:
Nah, it's the right-wing Washington Times, which is owned by noted crazy person the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.
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jonboy8871 posted:Nah, it's the right-wing Washington Times, which is owned by noted late crazy person the Rev. Sun Myung Moon. fixed for you.
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MrUnderbridge posted:Ooops- farther back. Oh. All right then. I was speaking of my earliest memory of it. Someone here is older than me! I knew where it came from but I didn't know it went back all the back to Nam. BiggerBoat posted:Calling my shot now: One of these assholes is going to do a segment on how this woman who's marrying Charles Manson is a big, loony, liberal Democrat. I haven't seen it mentioned on Rush or FOX yet but there a few blogs saying exactly this. I don't even know the woman's political leanings. I just figure tying Manson to Democrats would be low hanging fruit for these guys. Just wait. It's coming. edit; Yeah, the Gruber thing feels like a non starter. Not that that'll stop the faux outrage and character assassination. Seems ot me all he meant was if they label it a "tax hike" then Democrats are smart enough to know that won't fly. It's not a giant conspiracy. Everyone knew it was a tax hike. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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Glenn Beck couldn't even pick a real disease to pretend to have, and cure. Or a real place to get fake diagnosed. http://www.slate.com/articles/healt..._condition.html quote:
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Glenn Beck couldn't even pick a real disease to pretend to have, and cure. Or a real place to get fake diagnosed. So, he's has Munchausen's? 
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So he's off the wagon on some quack's prescriptions?
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They sound like such a big scam operation I wonder if he's about to make a "strategic partnership" and start promoting them.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Glenn Beck couldn't even pick a real disease to pretend to have, and cure. Or a real place to get fake diagnosed. Good god, with the money he has why not just see a really good, qualified doctor rather than an obvious quack? That alone tells me he's got mental problems.
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beatlegs posted:Good god, with the money he has why not just see a really good, qualified doctor rather than an obvious quack? That alone tells me he's got mental problems. Honestly I wish I had the time to look into whether that clinic/doc has been getting into live-read style advertising lately. The whole thing sounds like a dramatic Beck-esque "You need to buy food insurance soooooo bad!" attempt at SYNERGY.
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Unfortunately, he's probably just a huckster. He seems serious about his Mormon faith, but he never really talks about that on the air. At this point he's probably about as much of a character as Colbert is. He's probably being truthful about his politics, but his video stuff is an entirely theatrical production. He seems closer to his real personality on radio. The thing that gets me is how transparent he is in his hucksterism. You see an hour of his show, and you instantly understand what he's going for. He's applying the tent revival preacher and televangelist show format to politics. It really creeps me out, but I guess the same things that creep me out about him are the same things that seem comforting to his audience. He's just reversing the ratio of politics to faith that made Billy Graham famous. He thinks of himself as an excellent performer and showman. If you want an idea of the kind of guy Glenn Beck is then go watch A Face in the Crowd or Leap of Faith or any of the other handful of movies about fake religious figures that drift around swindling towns.
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CommieGIR posted:So, he's has Munchausen's?
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ErIog posted:Unfortunately, he's probably just a huckster. He seems serious about his Mormon faith, but he never really talks about that on the air. At this point he's probably about as much of a character as Colbert is. He's probably being truthful about his politics, but his video stuff is an entirely theatrical production. He seems closer to his real personality on radio. Agreed. It's very blatant. I think if I were to somehow coax the average person from his audience and Rush's into an earnest conversation they would admit they're aware of the little magic show going on, but just don't care. I feel like it's probably the same way I feel about TV after going through school for video and film production, I can think about all the fakery going on but 99% of the time I don't want to. I've mentioned it previously, but I think Beck is making a conscious play for the less-hardcore wives of the hardcore-freeper types. Everything he pushes is a fantastical, fuzzy re-telling of the exact same sentiment those people put forward with "I want to take away benefits because I care so darn much" sauce on top.
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BiggerBoat posted:It started with the Iran hostages actually in the late 70's. Shoulda prefaced it with, "in my lifetime, I can remember..." All I know about the hostage situation was Carter getting a ton of blame and Reagan talking poo poo, or what they discussed in the Carter episode of American Experience.
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CommieGIR posted:So, he's has Munchausen's?  He's inviting us to discredit him! We should oblige him!
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I've been kept up a lot at nights over the last month by severe back pain and, with nothing else to do since I can't sleep, have been watching a lot of TV at 3 in the morning. Let me tell you, you people have no loving idea the poo poo and the snake oil sales that go on between 2 and 6 in the morning. Preachers are literally selling "healing water" that grants all of your wishes and cures all of your ills. And by wishes I mean "money" and by ills I mean "poverty". The pitch was verbatim "buy this water and you will win the lottery or get a free house." Not even kidding. Made my back pain even worse it made me so mad. I'd link it but I'm not giving these shitheels any traffic. Oh, and every member of the audience and everyone giving a testimonial was black. The "pastor" was just as white and as slick as you can picture in your head and looks exactly like what you think he looks like.
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beatlegs posted:Good god, with the money he has why not just see a really good, qualified doctor rather than an obvious quack? That alone tells me he's got mental problems. he's not actually sick, he's just a professional conman and the religious crowd loving loves the old "i once was blind but now i see" story
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Crowder is back with his video on Russell Brand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJFMTEwWts
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Crowder is the poo poo Nancy Grace of RW media. Only instead of blood/sex/drugs it's LIBRULS.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Crowder is back with his video on Russell Brand 
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Making a Russell Brand video like that also has exactly one intended audience member: Russell Brand, with vain hopes that he'll zing you and bestow cred. No one right or left cares that much about Russell Brand unless we're within a 3 day period of him either talking smart poo poo on a morning show or divorcing someone.
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LOUDER WITH CROWDER *shouts message into empty room*
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Glenn Beck is like Tom Leykis shilling for creatine but then in his real life he holes up in his fortress like "the anti-creatine police are out to get me"
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The yellow ribbon thing actually goes back pretty far. Here's the Andrews Sisters singing about one in '49, but the song was written more than thirty years prior. Possibly here? The Wikipedia article says the tradition could go back as far as the English Civil War, but... Wikipedia.
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BiggerBoat posted:I've been kept up a lot at nights over the last month by severe back pain and, with nothing else to do since I can't sleep, have been watching a lot of TV at 3 in the morning. Let me tell you, you people have no loving idea the poo poo and the snake oil sales that go on between 2 and 6 in the morning. This has been a thing for years. I remember watching late-night Robert Tilton broadcasts in the early 90's. Same thing. "Send me your gift to God (or "seed money") and He will be pleased and reward you with riches and/or miracle healings! Here's a testimonial from one of my happy customers! (roll tape of some poor sap claiming his cancer was healed because he sent Tilton $100)"
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moths posted:The yellow ribbon thing actually goes back pretty far. Here's the Andrews Sisters singing about one in '49, but the song was written more than thirty years prior. Possibly here? Yeah, I'm semi-aware of the history but I don't think it was really a thing before the Gulf War. I don't have anything to back that up really. I mean I'm sure during WWII people were anxious for their sons/brothers/husbands to come home, but... e: I'm still pretty sure random people slapping yellow ribbons on things is fairly recent though.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Making a Russell Brand video like that also has exactly one intended audience member: Russell Brand, with vain hopes that he'll zing you and bestow cred. No one right or left cares that much about Russell Brand unless we're within a 3 day period of him either talking smart poo poo on a morning show or divorcing someone. Frankly the continued existence of Russell Brand is a mystery to me.
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Matt damon gets attacked on live radio! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MmALYI1vGM
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MariusLecter posted:Matt damon gets attacked on live radio! .....okay. Lots to see here.
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