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Kaubocks posted:Play Shiek, YX, X, win. Real talk, its hosed up if you don't use the Zelda controls.
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Nov 18, 2014 23:27
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mabels big day posted:Real talk, its hosed up if you don't use the Zelda controls. I dunno I've been playing Dynasty Warriors games for like 13 years with the same exact control scheme and every other Zelda switches up the control scheme sooooo
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Nov 18, 2014 23:38
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Kaubocks posted:Play Shiek, YX, X, win. Sheik is pretty boring to play though. I would only follow this advice if you're having difficulty with something.
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Nov 18, 2014 23:49
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Count Uvula posted:Sheik is pretty boring to play though. I would only follow this advice if you're having difficulty with something. Counterpoint: Sheik is awesome to play and has a dozen attacks and they are all useful
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Nov 19, 2014 00:03
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It's boring throwing down glowing cardboard then busting moves on stalchild asses. Also boring to drop meteors on people. Also, uh, playing a harp?
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Nov 19, 2014 00:09
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Kaboobi posted:I dunno I've been playing Dynasty Warriors games for like 13 years with the same exact control scheme and every other Zelda switches up the control scheme sooooo B has been attack and A has been dodge in every 3D Zelda game
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Nov 19, 2014 00:10
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I'm used to hitting Y and X in Hyrule Warriors, no way am I changing now 
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Nov 19, 2014 00:40
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Yeah, I can't change from the Warriors control scheme anymore. poo poo, even switching to and from Bayonetta 2 messes with me something fierce, I don't need to make it WORSE.
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Nov 19, 2014 01:55
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I was surprised when I played Warrior Orochi 3 and Dynasty Warriors 8 to find out they don't have the lockon like this game. Like that feature too, as it makes it easier to find out how who to kill when the room is full of mooks.
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Nov 19, 2014 02:48
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mabels big day posted:Real talk, its hosed up if you don't use the Zelda controls. Yeah I guess if you're a scrub who's never played a Dynasty Warriors game before. Warriors control scheme 4 lyfe.
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Nov 19, 2014 03:32
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Count Uvula posted:Sheik is pretty boring to play though. I would only follow this advice if you're having difficulty with something. Sheik attacks quickly and dodges really well, plus she cannot be attacked when doing her X moves. What more could you want? gently caress other characters (like Ganon) who can be attacked.
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Nov 19, 2014 03:53
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BleiddWhitefalcon posted:So I just grabbed this game. What basic things should I know that the game doesn't explain? (there's always something. ALWAYS) And any good tips and/or tricks would be appreciated as well. Thanks much! If you're feeling bored with the combo variety, remember that you'll unlock more as you craft badges for each character. Fighting officers and bosses often revolves around depleting their weak point meters for highly damaging bonus attacks. With most enemies, you'll have to wait for them to use a move you can exploit, but you can actually force them to reveal their weak point with a Focus Spirit Attack. You do this by first activating your magic meter (the green meter, not the yellow meter), then pressing A to end the state early with a unique special attack. Bosses caught in this should reveal their weak point, which really helps out especially when Dodongo just doesn't want to do its breath attack. Also if you dodge and keep holding the button, you'll go straight into a dash. All of this stuff is in the manual I think, but it's worth mentioning. 
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Nov 19, 2014 03:53
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AccountingNightmare posted:All of this stuff is in the manual I think, but it's worth mentioning. Is any of the information about people's specialities in there? I feel like it isn't because until this thread I didn't have a loving clue what the notes under Sheik's name meant. Hell with most of them I still don't have a clue, like Zant's power bar or Zelda's little balls.
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Nov 19, 2014 03:55
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The Zelda games I played the most were on the N64 where the B/A (attack/dodge) placement is the same as Y/B on the Wii U so... Oh also by the way ZANT'S LEVEL THREE WEAPON MISSION IS loving IMPOSSIBLE someone please help Ganondorf has died like three times because he's goddamn incompetent for some reason
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Nov 19, 2014 03:55
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Kaubocks posted:The Zelda games I played the most were on the N64 where the B/A (attack/dodge) placement is the same as Y/B on the Wii U so... This is the one level I didn't bother trying to do on my own and just got a friend to help me co-op it.
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Nov 19, 2014 03:58
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Taear posted:Is any of the information about people's specialities in there? I feel like it isn't because until this thread I didn't have a loving clue what the notes under Sheik's name meant. Hell with most of them I still don't have a clue, like Zant's power bar or Zelda's little balls. No, it doesn't look like there's any character-specific info.
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Nov 19, 2014 03:58
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AccountingNightmare posted:No, it doesn't look like there's any character-specific info. That's really, really stupid. And I wish I knew people who were good at the game because getting in friends to help with most levels isn't much good since they take too much damage.
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Nov 19, 2014 03:59
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Kaubocks posted:The Zelda games I played the most were on the N64 where the B/A (attack/dodge) placement is the same as Y/B on the Wii U so... He's not incompetent, he just has to deal with like 5 powered up fiery aerolfos or some poo poo. Also there's really no advice that can be given for Zant's level 3. Just outlevel it and pray to whatever higher power you believe in that things will go right. Also leave about 10 minutes to fight Ghirahim because Zant's single target damage is complete garbage.
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Nov 19, 2014 04:01
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I'm level 53 with a five-star tier 2 weapon but Zant's damage output is so terrible I can't keep up. The one time I was remotely close was when I was fighting Ghirahim after I already ran out of time to A-rank but Ganondorf STILL died to something I honestly don't even know what. I made it a loving point to double back and kill the fiery whatever that spawns after you beat all the captains and he had nobody on his rear end he just loving keeled over from old age or something.  gently caress you ganondorf gently caress you zant you piece of trash I'd still use you over Agitha though
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Nov 19, 2014 04:14
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The best chance of beating it is to leave Ganondorf for the last of your objectives. Get everything else done first and then go kill Sheik and the guys bothering Dorfy. What you need to happen is that he goes into Danger and then you rescue him to full health immediately before you go fight Girahim. If you manage that, you will be able to beat it without him dying. Then you just have to figure out how to do all that in a timely manner which is down to being strong enough, and being lucky. I think I did it around 57-58. It's the most bullshit level in the game. E: Also god help me I've been going after the heart containers and killing 1,000 enemies with Agitha is hell. You don't even need to A-Rank that thing to get it but I still can't do it in time. My closest attempt I had 970 by the end. Any tips for this? Smash Bros and the Twilight DLC can't get here soon enough. Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 04:37
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Well there, I've done it. I'm ready for the Twilight DLC. Every Skulltella grabbed, every mission A'd and ever heart container contained (master quest and normal adventure). I was having a bitch of a time getting Cia's heart piece from the "kill 1000 dudes" level until I realized her C2 completely WRECKS the small dudes. It took me multiple tries just to clear it with her without using it, let a lone get a A. Then bam, I stopped being dumb and finished it in just over 5 min. I guess I actually still have the boss rush to A, but that's more of a slot machine than a challenge. If the bosses all decided to B-line for you right at the start it becomes a nightmare, and if the Imprisoned and Ganon get to close and decided to both do AOEs then it's unlikely you'll be dodging everything. I've found Wizro is really good at knocking out the bosses weak meters in one go, but ugh does a lot of poo poo happen that can gently caress it all up. Also, even though a lot of his attacks are bullshit I would be totally fine with the Imprisoned if it weren't for the fact that he is the only boss that can't be broken in one knockdown. That is such bullshit. I'm really disappointed at how Impa turned out. Shes a really cool character and fun to play as, but there really aren't many missions that need her and usually someone else works better for whatever needs doing when given the choice of characters. That or someone else is needed for one collectible or another. This has be by far the most fun I've had with a Warriors game. Usually I get frustrated once they start getting into bullshit difficulty, but the way adventure mode is broken up I found it pretty easy just to move on to something else and come back to what ever level was giving me trouble. The only master quest levels that I didn't like where the "don't get hit" levels that were normal capture point levels. Though I didn't notice the kill count doesn't matter until I cleared them, so whoopy for that.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Yeah I guess if you're a scrub who's never played a Dynasty Warriors game before. yeah im gonna play some game teaching me about chinese history. no thanks, professor.
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Nov 19, 2014 04:49
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Regy Rusty posted:E: Also god help me I've been going after the heart containers and killing 1,000 enemies with Agitha is hell. You don't even need to A-Rank that thing to get it but I still can't do it in time. My closest attempt I had 970 by the end. Any tips for this? Ignore everything but the mooks and crash your butterfly/use Special into large groups. Get a weapon with Strong Attack+ and One Hit Kill. Hope the Imprisoned leave you alone. gl hf 
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Nov 19, 2014 04:51
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Taear posted:Hell with most of them I still don't have a clue, like Zant's power bar or Zelda's little balls. Whenever you use a charge attack with Zant, you can repeatedly press the button, which causes him to keep doing it, and every press fills up that meter. If you keep pressing the button after the meter is full, he'll screw up and become stunned for a moment, and the meter will empty. If you stop pressing the button once the meter is full, then you can press the Strong Attack button, after which you have two choices: mashing down the regular attack button causes him to spin in a whirlwind with his blades out, mashing down the strong attack button causes him to shoot projectiles, for as long as the meter lasts. Zelda's deal is that the little balls power up her charge attacks. You can get the balls by pressing the strong attack button, or by doing a complete combo string of regular attacks on an enemy.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:41
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mabels big day posted:yeah im gonna play some game teaching me about chinese history. no thanks, professor. I can't tell if you're joking. But it's VERY fantastical, lots of crazy, lots of weapon styles, you really would probably enjoy it. Even better(?), 8 Complete is on PC if you so choose.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:06
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Kaubocks posted:The Zelda games I played the most were on the N64 where the B/A (attack/dodge) placement is the same as Y/B on the Wii U so... Bet you're really looking forward to getting the second skulltula on this mission, where Zant is allowed to lose half as much health, 'cause let me tell ya, that is FUUUUUUUUN poo poo.
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Nov 19, 2014 10:01
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Does anyone know offhand if there are any "rack up KOs" missions featuring Aeralfos? I need some silver drops from them and those missions are the best way.
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Nov 19, 2014 14:32
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Regy Rusty posted:
For me I found the easiest way was to spam YYX and just keep dropping beetles everywhere. You can dodge cancel out before the beetle even falls so you can have a couple going at one time. The animation has two hits to it so it also does a good job of keeping the captains off your back. Free Drinks fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 14:40
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SuperHappy posted:Bet you're really looking forward to getting the second skulltula on this mission, where Zant is allowed to lose half as much health, 'cause let me tell ya, that is FUUUUUUUUN poo poo. Lucky for me I don't give two shits about skulltulas.  I mean in pretty much any other game I would but there is just SO MUCH TO DO in this game (I've barely touched the Master Quest map and the Twilight Princess map is out soon!) that if I DID care about heart pieces and skulltulas I would literally never finish this game.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Does anyone know offhand if there are any "rack up KOs" missions featuring Aeralfos? I need some silver drops from them and those missions are the best way. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668508&pagenumber=82&perpage=40#post437359142
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Nov 19, 2014 16:22
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Twelve by Pies posted:Whenever you use a charge attack with Zant, you can repeatedly press the button, which causes him to keep doing it, and every press fills up that meter. If you keep pressing the button after the meter is full, he'll screw up and become stunned for a moment, and the meter will empty. To clarify about Zant, you want to press strong attack until just before the meter is full, because then his last attack will fill it. Then go ahead and hit strong attack and turn into a crazy tornado. Zant's stomping attack owns, but he isn't very good otherwise. He can take keeps really easily but he is horrible at weak point smashes on anyone. loving Zant is such a joke.
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Nov 19, 2014 16:26
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Bloodly posted:I can't tell if you're joking. But it's VERY fantastical, lots of crazy, lots of weapon styles, you really would probably enjoy it. Even better(?), 8 Complete is on PC if you so choose. Dynasty Warriors 8 was cool, and definitely not realistic or anything, but sometimes the between-mission summaries of events felt a little bit like learning. Almost like a Powerpoint slide, with arrows on a map of ancient China, showing troop movements and nothing but text on screen describing vaguely-historical events... But then the mission would start and I'd shoot ice at a thousand dudes at once and everything was awesome again But I assume they were joking, anyway
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Aaaargh, I just did some grinding for Darunia's materials (my first time grinding in this game except for a few bouts into the rewards map), and I unlocked his level 3 Goron Tunic badge only to discover that his level 3 hammer mission isn't one where the defense badge works. I did get one of the badges that helps clear keeps faster, which will help me zip through those keeps at the bottom quicker, but I'm not running into any problems with time, I just keep getting damaged a bit too much by the loving moblin hordes when I accidentally enter the wrong combo. After that, I just have the gate level 3, Agitha's 3, and then somehow I have to beat H-3 (top row, third from the left) to get access to the rest of the weapons. Oddly enough, I think that last thing is going to be the hardest.
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Nov 19, 2014 21:15
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:He can take keeps really easily but he is horrible at weak point smashes on anyone. Against non-giant bosses, Zant is actually really good at weak point smashes. I can't recall anyone recovering out of YX spam Y; it comes out quick and they pop up low to the ground so there's no real timing to the follow up Y attacks, just keep hitting it until the smash happens. His actual smash attack isn't the best, but he shouldn't have any problems getting it off in one go.
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Nov 19, 2014 22:11
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Kaubocks posted:I'm level 53 with a five-star tier 2 weapon but Zant's damage output is so terrible I can't keep up. The one time I was remotely close was when I was fighting Ghirahim after I already ran out of time to A-rank but Ganondorf STILL died to something I honestly don't even know what. I made it a loving point to double back and kill the fiery whatever that spawns after you beat all the captains and he had nobody on his rear end he just loving keeled over from old age or something. In addition to what others have said, if you're still having problems with damage output, try running levels with a special boosting mixture until you get something with compatriot to throw on your five star weapon. Zant is so good at taking keeps that you can, right as the mission starts, make a full circuit of the open ones before anything is in any real danger. The damage bonus from doing this is pretty huge, and a lot of enemy mooks will get tangled up for a while taking them back. Regy Rusty posted:E: Also god help me I've been going after the heart containers and killing 1,000 enemies with Agitha is hell. You don't even need to A-Rank that thing to get it but I still can't do it in time. My closest attempt I had 970 by the end. Any tips for this? Max out her zora's tunic badge so that ignoring officers and the imprisoned doesn't just get you killed. Throw beetles with C5 forever. Maybe summon one with C3 instead if the situation really calls for it, but I found that even if you can dash cancle out of it, the beetle itself just takes too long to appear and by then the enemies have moved. One big thing is to try to stay on one side as long as you can justify it. Reinforcements come at specific kill benchmarks, so the more you can build up before switching sides, the faster you can mow them down with a beetle charge when you do.
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Nov 19, 2014 23:08
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Haha. The top left corner of the regular map is a KO 1000 enemies with 3 The Imprisoned spawning through the stage. Haha. The Master Quest variant has 4 The Imprisoned. 
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Reoxygenation posted:Haha. The Master Quest variant is a joke because you get the prize for doing it with Cia, who makes it absolutely effortless to A-Rank. I plan on just using her to A-Rank the regular version eventually if I decide to go for A-Rank clean ups after I get all the heart containers. Beating the regular one with Agitha is the hard part. (I haven't tried it again since posting about it earlier, but thanks for all the tips, guys.) Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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Nov 20, 2014 02:35
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I'm poo poo with Cia how do you do it. Help. I beat the regular one with Agitha but that didn't involve A-Ranking it 
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